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shadowaxxshadowaxx Member Posts: 126 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Klingon Discussion
Why is there no love for the Mirror Universe Battle cruiser?

Two of the Tholian ships are very popular yet the Fed and KDF Mirror Universe ships are going very cheaply.

Maybe it's too many being won.
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I think because they are basically just re-skins with a few BOFF and Console changes and also that they aren't the top rewards for gambling with the lock boxes. Personally I prefer the Mirror ships to the Tholian ships, Tholian ships have no place in Starfleet or the KDF, goes against the entire feel of the Tholian species established in the series and books.
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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Why is there no love for the Mirror Universe Battle cruiser?

    Probably a Supply-demand kinda thing, more people are Fed players, more fed ships,
    Plus if i remember looking at the Vorcha stats it wasn't anything special compared to the fed cruisers


    "Tholian ships have no place in Starfleet or the KDF, goes against the entire feel of the Tholian species established in the series and books."

    Could not agree more. How on earth would a ferengi be selling Tholian Carriers for lobi crystals? :/
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  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I won't lie I'm quite fond of my Mirror Vor'cha, it's proven more efficient than my Negh'var.
  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    ...Tholian ships have no place in Starfleet or the KDF, goes against the entire feel of the Tholian species established in the series and books.

    Money money money money, MONEY!
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  • emperorandyemperorandy Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Most of it is supply and demand. Market is flooded. Someone GAVE me one for free yesterday.

    The M.U. Vorcha has only one Tactical BOff station versus the two of the Retrofit Vorcha. Sacrifices DPS for healing, pretty much.
  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    KDF really should have got Regent Worf's oversized Negh'var, it would have made a lot more sense.
  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Couldn't agree more. And it's from the Mirror Universe :D
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  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    If I could get in game and afford a mirror universe Vor'cha I would snap them up. Please keep selling them cheap for a week or two..

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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Can alternate parts and skins (like the Vor'Kang) be used with the MU Battlecruiser, or it stuck with that yellow paint job?
  • cthulhuslawyercthulhuslawyer Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I got mine, still in box. Its the same ship as the reg Battlecruiser, added power to all systems plus the +10. The Boff layout is good, plays like a reg beam boat from the fed side . Its good but im still in love with the Gumba !!! I just dont see me on it, so ill keep it boxed up for a while.
  • houseofkahlesshouseofkahless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    As a Gorn Engineer, i can definitely see that there being potential for a Fantastic Healer Build, which is why when i get home from work im gonna be snapping one up as quick as i can!!
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,886 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Should of gave it a lt cmdr science slot...would of made things interesting.
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited July 2012
    shadowaxx wrote: »
    Why is there no love for the Mirror Universe Battle cruiser?

    Two of the Tholian ships are very popular yet the Fed and KDF Mirror Universe ships are going very cheaply.

    Maybe it's too many being won.

    I'm pretty sure the Fed ships are so cheap because it's essentially the BOFF layout of the other T5 cruiser on the same Hull. You could have 2 Sovereigns but one would be a Star Cruiser BOFF layout.

    My Sci want the KDF MU ship but.
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  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Can alternate parts and skins (like the Vor'Kang) be used with the MU Battlecruiser, or it stuck with that yellow paint job?

    Yes and yes :)

    It's great finally being able to fly around in the Vor'Kang at end game! Great looking skin.



    Supply and demand, yeah, likely less KDF players so less supply right there and when they do get it will likely keep it as it's one of the few ships KDF can get.

    I got one in a box and opened it straight away just so I could have a new ship. If I get another it'll go on the exchange.

    It's pretty good actually, only 36k hull though (I'm used to the heavier cruisers/ships) but the base 10 turn rate makes it nice and nimble. And since I'm specced 6 into thrusters to get my bigger ships turning, this thing has a base turn of 18! And with the Omega set gets it to 20! A cruiser... with a turn rate of 20... with no RCS :D

    Has the same boff layout as the fed prime star cruiser (which I like as a boff layout, good mix for tanking).

    With the nimblness and speed bonus (+10 engine power) I make good use of EWP and theta. Lay down some EWP, come about and overlay theta, come about and overlay EWP again whilst dropping aceton assimilator right in the middle of it all. mwahaha!
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  • deadbison2deadbison2 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I l ove the mirror ship on my science kdf officer. I am more of a healer now on him, but I love it tons more then my cruiser, I actually play on KDF more. Just need to finish winding out some kinks, but i like it.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The Mirror ships are cheap on the exchange because their drop rate is actually pretty high. I got two in the first ten boxes I opened; the overall chance of getting one seems to be around 7.5% (six Mirror ships in 80 boxes opened).
  • emperorandyemperorandy Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Can alternate parts and skins (like the Vor'Kang) be used with the MU Battlecruiser, or it stuck with that yellow paint job?

    You can do regular Vor'cha skin. You can also use Vor'kang and Tor'kaht if you already have access to those skins.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The MU Battlecruiser is alright, but I still prefer the standard Vor'Cha Refit.

    The MU version due to the leaning towards Science instead of Tactical is a tad bit more survivable. But it still handles just wonderfully the same as the normal ship.

    Not bad if you end up with this ship and you didn't want to fork out the 120k dil for the regular version.
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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The MU Battlecruiser is alright, but I still prefer the standard Vor'Cha Refit.

    The MU version due to the leaning towards Science instead of Tactical is a tad bit more survivable. But it still handles just wonderfully the same as the normal ship.

    Not bad if you end up with this ship and you didn't want to fork out the 120k dil for the regular version.

    I turned one over to my Science captain and presently fly it over the Voq.
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  • shadowaxxshadowaxx Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I unpacked and took the MU Battlecruiser for a test drive last night.

    I liked the ship. Turn rate was good. DPS was pretty good with 3 tac consoles and +15 weapon power. Healing very good with the BO layout options.

    However, at the end of a handful of Fleet missions and STFs, I switched back to running the D'Kora, mainly because I felt the D'kora offers a little better platform for switching between DPS and healing with the change of a few BOs, swapping around some set pieces and dropping in/out of battle mode.

    There weren't too many visual customization options, although the MU skin type was interesting. It made me wish there was a way to disable the visual affect of running certain shields, so you could get the benefit but keep the look of the orignal ship.

    I was a little put off by the 1200 zen cost of the alternate skin for the MU cruiser. I would have probably plunked down 400 zen without thinking about it, instead I skipped the skin.

    If there was an easier, quicker way to switch between ships, I'd definitely consider having the MU Battlecruiser set up for specific duties.
  • zordar01zordar01 Member Posts: 318
    edited August 2012
    shadowaxx wrote: »
    There weren't too many visual customization options, although the MU skin type was interesting. It made me wish there was a way to disable the visual affect of running certain shields, so you could get the benefit but keep the look of the orignal ship.

    Right-click on the shields and select 'Disable Visuals'.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Its a nerfed Vorcha basically. It has one less ensign tac station and gets an extra ensign sci station instead. The Vorcha is one of the few cruisers that can effectively use dual heavy cannons, but is still short on tac skills, and is a little more squishy then a Negvar or Sovereign. With the regular Vorcha layout you can run cannon rapid fire 1 and still have room for 2 tac teams, or 1 tac team and a torp skill. The mirror Vorcha just doesn't pack as much punch for a offensive oriented cruiser.
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  • relizarrarasrelizarraras Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Does the mu vor'cha really have +5 to all subsystems and +10 to weapons and engines?
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt8-lDmbpeQ&feature=plcp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWSuV0B8dbw&feature=plcp

    Let me say that yes you can use DHCs or just duals. Im starting to lean towards duals only because on the ships without the LTcmdr tactical station you don't really have the room for decent cannon abilities. The Bortas does, the others do not. So for the lower tac stations torpedo spread wins.

    I've just gotten the fleet D-7 its great I love it. So very fast. Fleet Vorcha is going to be so good can't wait to get that one and load up some cannons on it too!

    Cheers and happy flying!
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Indeed, the Fleet Vor'Cha is badass in alot of different ways. A true "Battlecruiser."
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    shadowaxx wrote: »
    I unpacked and took the MU Battlecruiser for a test drive last night.

    I liked the ship. Turn rate was good. DPS was pretty good with 3 tac consoles and +15 weapon power. Healing very good with the BO layout options.

    However, at the end of a handful of Fleet missions and STFs, I switched back to running the D'Kora, mainly because I felt the D'kora offers a little better platform for switching between DPS and healing with the change of a few BOs, swapping around some set pieces and dropping in/out of battle mode.

    There weren't too many visual customization options, although the MU skin type was interesting. It made me wish there was a way to disable the visual affect of running certain shields, so you could get the benefit but keep the look of the orignal ship.

    I was a little put off by the 1200 zen cost of the alternate skin for the MU cruiser. I would have probably plunked down 400 zen without thinking about it, instead I skipped the skin.

    If there was an easier, quicker way to switch between ships, I'd definitely consider having the MU Battlecruiser set up for specific duties.

    Of course a Lockbox Ship is better. Cryptic had no idea what game balance meant when putting out most of those ships.
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  • shadowaxxshadowaxx Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Of course a Lockbox Ship is better. Cryptic had no idea what game balance meant when putting out most of those ships.

    I must say, IMHO, it still comes down to good Captain versus poor Captain. Even though I feel I have a very strong couple of PvE D'Kora builds, I have a bit more trouble in a PvP.
  • shadowaxxshadowaxx Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    thissler wrote: »
    I've just gotten the fleet D-7 its great I love it. So very fast. Fleet Vorcha is going to be so good can't wait to get that one and load up some cannons on it too!

    Cheers and happy flying!

    I really envy you folks with larger fleet populations. Still working toward tier 1 here. :)
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I think there's currently 4 of us. Join us and lets see.......that would be.....carry the 2......ummmm


    5.

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  • jjumetleyjjumetley Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    So i bought the MU Battlecruiser on the exchange and I have a hard time deciding who should get it. My engineer or my scientist?
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