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amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
Why are all the old items being retired from the lobi store? What point does this serve... just add new things to it... and keep the old...
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  • eulifdaviseulifdavis Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    My thoughts exactly. There's no point to removing the current inventory.
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  • cormorancormoran Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It makes sense if you look at it like a Ferengi.

    GO GO GO GO GO NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND LIMITTED TIME ONLY LIMITTED TIME ONLY LIMITTED TIME ONLY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY SUCKER SUCKER SUCKER SUCKER!
  • happyhappyj0yj0yhappyhappyj0yj0y Member Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They'll likely phase them back in at some point. Perhaps during some down time between new lockboxes. Maybe some kind of holiday or something. They've made the products to sell so they're unlikely to shelve them forever.

    The point of phasing them out is that it compels people to buy now as opposed to save. Then when something else comes along, maybe something you feel is better, you have to buy more because you blew what you had.
  • direphoenixdirephoenix Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    eulifdavis wrote: »
    My thoughts exactly. There's no point to removing the current inventory.

    I believe the point is to remove the current items with their current prices before lockboxes start giving a minimum of 4 crystals per box instead of 1 or 2, where we would be able to get the older, possibly cheaper items with less effort.

    I believe they see their options as either raising the prices of the older items or removing the older items and maybe bringing them back later when no one remembers the older prices. And, to avoid the flack they'd take for raising prices due to increased lobi drops per box, they just decided to remove the old stuff altogether.
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  • kingdoxykingdoxy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    cormoran wrote: »
    It makes sense if you look at it like a Ferengi.

    GO GO GO GO GO NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND LIMITTED TIME ONLY LIMITTED TIME ONLY LIMITTED TIME ONLY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY SUCKER SUCKER SUCKER SUCKER!

    Yeah, its like the McRib. Take it away then bring it back later.

    So all the folks who have the shinny stuff from the Lobi store now can lord it over other folks for a few months. Then they can bring it back and everyone will freak out because they can get jackal puppies again.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I can see the logic of "limited time", but some items should remain available. For instance, some of the cosmetic items are offered in the Lobi store, then after their limited time is up, they become offered in the Latinum store. Thus giving the Latinum store something to offer.

    If they did that, all I can say, maybe they can open up a vendor in one of those empty kiosks at DS9.


    BTW Devs, not sure why you took out the Physical Lobi store at Drozana, but to me, it would be nice if there was a physical place you could go to. Let's say you wanted to look at the goods and you had no Lobi Cystals. So no Lobi, no window shopping.
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I don't mind if some of the cosmetic items migrate into the Gold-Pressed Latinum store.
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  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    psiameese wrote: »
    I don't mind if some of the cosmetic items migrate into the Gold-Pressed Latinum store.

    Same with the Whip.

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  • cedricophoffcedricophoff Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Why are you guys posting on the forums when you should be throwing your wallets at the devs. Shame on you.
  • maledicus0eumaledicus0eu Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Why are all the old items being retired from the lobi store? What point does this serve... just add new things to it... and keep the old...

    I agree, now it is no longer possible for me to complete the "ferengi marauder" ship set. I just got 1 part of it and my plan was to open lockboxes from time to time, collect Lobis, and then after a while buy the missing set parts.

    And beside that ... where's the Lobi-Store now?? No NPC on Drozana station?

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  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    cormoran wrote: »
    It makes sense if you look at it like a Ferengi.

    GO GO GO GO GO NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND LIMITTED TIME ONLY LIMITTED TIME ONLY LIMITTED TIME ONLY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY SUCKER SUCKER SUCKER SUCKER!

    Actually this is the opposite of how a ferengi would think... items being a limited time will on encourage me to not care about them... however, always instock, non limited items make me covet them and want them more, enticing me to gain the currency required to get them.

    A ferengi would want me to want what hes selling, so he would make sure to always have that shiny item I want so I could give him my money.
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  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I agree, now it is no longer possible for me to complete the "ferengi marauder" ship set. I just got 1 part of it and my plan was to open lockboxes from time to time, collect Lobis, and then after a while buy the missing set parts.

    And beside that ... where's the Lobi-Store now?? No NPC on Drozana station?

    Cheers,
    Maledicus.

    Right-click on the lobi item in your inventory and select 'Use.' You can get it there.
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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    psiameese wrote: »
    I don't mind if some of the cosmetic items migrate into the Gold-Pressed Latinum store.

    I wouldn't mind if ANY item would migrate into the Gold-Pressed Latinum store.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I wouldn't mind if ANY item would migrate into the Gold-Pressed Latinum store.

    No, can't do. No money for Cryptic involved with GPL. :(:P:D
  • meridian113meridian113 Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Season 6: Wallet Under Siege strikes again.
    Lobi store will soon replace Z-store and for that it will make dilithium exchnage useless
  • cormorancormoran Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Actually this is the opposite of how a ferengi would think... items being a limited time will on encourage me to not care about them... however, always instock, non limited items make me covet them and want them more, enticing me to gain the currency required to get them.

    A ferengi would want me to want what hes selling, so he would make sure to always have that shiny item I want so I could give him my money.

    This is true, atleast for some consumers. I suppose it would be more accurate to say that CrypticWorld is more like the hilariously stupid and covetous Ferengi from TNG rather than the wiley business savvy Ferengi from DS9. :D
  • neuraldamageneuraldamage Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Why are you guys posting on the forums when you should be throwing your wallets at the devs. Shame on you.

    Mostly because my aim isn't good enough to hit them right in the uhh... Lobi Crystals. :eek:

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  • drasketodrasketo Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They'll likely phase them back in at some point. Perhaps during some down time between new lockboxes. Maybe some kind of holiday or something. They've made the products to sell so they're unlikely to shelve them forever.

    The point of phasing them out is that it compels people to buy now as opposed to save. Then when something else comes along, maybe something you feel is better, you have to buy more because you blew what you had.

    The highlighted made me giggle.

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  • maarkeanmaarkean Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I read today's patch notes today and was really annoyed that the old items were going away. I wanted the MACO BOFF but didn't have enough Lobi. Was going to buy some keys for the Tholian box to get one. But not now I guess.
  • jeezybrownshoesjeezybrownshoes Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Why are all the old items being retired from the lobi store? What point does this serve... just add new things to it... and keep the old...

    I agree with the OG OP.
  • sdkraustsdkraust Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    So my Whip / Shuttle Pet / Targ are now a bit rarer than they already were.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Well, this was a remarkably stupid idea PWEtic. At least I got my Maco Boff in time before this happened... :rolleyes:
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I think the whip, Ferengi jacket, and shuttle could all get new life recolored as latinum rewards. (Let the old owners have their exclusivity.)

    I'd release the jackets and skirts:

    With silver metal patches. ("Assistant Manager's Ferengi Jacket.")

    With neon piping. (Advertiser's Nanopulse Jacket. With a funny line in the description about how Quark Enterprises is not responsible for burn injuries.)

    And then latinum hull textured shuttle as "Gold-pressed Latinum Plated Ferengi Shuttle" (CAUTION! May not be suitable for orbital re-entry.)

    And then a Ferengi energy whip with a "gold pressed latinum plated handle."

    (Yes, gold-pressed latinum plating would basically just be gold plating. Shhhhh.)

    As for the MACO Boff, I'd simply look at introducing a second one. Same color scheme variant but with the shoulder and helmet geo from the version of the MACO gear that comes from STF optionals.

    Might also be cool to see more missile launchers that are not part of the Ferengi set.
  • palpha2clearancepalpha2clearance Member Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Just another way to degrade consumer confidence and TRIBBLE us off

    Another stabbing blow for the casual player / star trek fan
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  • naharikajalnaharikajal Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I am not a big fan of this decission either but luckily I read about this in the FAQ this morning so I could use my Lobi to buy the things I wanted before they were removed.

    Actually I planned to wait and see about the prices of they new stuff but when I realised that there was only one Photonic Tactical BO in the Exchange I changed my idea and bought him from the store.
  • palpha2clearancepalpha2clearance Member Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Why are you guys posting on the forums when you should be throwing your wallets at the devs. Shame on you.

    I work for a living so I have been unable to grind and play gated content fo obtail enough lobi crystals......to buy anything good
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  • alarikunalarikun Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Honestly, I think you guys have it wrong. This is a smart idea on their part, for the MAJORITY of the populace.

    Most people will feel that a "Limited Time Item" is very valuable, and thus go out of their way to get it, even if they have to pay Real World Money.

    If an item is available ALL THE TIME, then people will be complacent, and won't go out of their way to get said item. Impulse Buys won't happen, since they'll assume the item will be there forever.

    This is smart on Cryptic's part, or rather, should I say, PWE part.
    I work for a living so I have been unable to grind and play gated content fo obtail enough lobi crystals......to buy anything good

    *Facepalm* You realize you could play for all of one hour, and get like... 10-15 lock boxes? Then you just have to throw real money at Cryptic to get the keys for them, for your Lobi Crystals. No grinding required at all.

    Or, if you're really low on time, wait a few days, and go onto the Exchange. I'm sure it'll be flooded with Lock Box stacks of 10+, for 1 credit each.
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  • outllawoutllaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I work for a living so I have been unable to grind and play gated content fo obtail enough lobi crystals......to buy anything good

    Well I guess you didn't miss out on anything since there was never a "lobi grind" The pittance we got from accolades wasn't enough to cover anything fancy from the lobi store. Good thing you work for a living and make money right?

    If you don't make enough money to support online gaming purchases either A get out of the rapid food service industry, or B stop complaining about things you cannot afford.

    They already made a concession for "low-income" players by making the game F2P. Everything else is just fluff for those of us that can afford it.
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  • asthalothasthaloth Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    outllaw wrote: »
    Well I guess you didn't miss out on anything since there was never a "lobi grind" The pittance we got from accolades wasn't enough to cover anything fancy from the lobi store. Good thing you work for a living and make money right?

    If you don't make enough money to support online gaming purchases either A get out of the rapid food service industry, or B stop complaining about things you cannot afford.

    They already made a concession for "low-income" players by making the game F2P. Everything else is just fluff for those of us that can afford it.

    I didn't buy a single zen / c point and I have the rocket launcher, mines and MACO officer.

    Nor did I spend hours a day online.

    You really just have no idea of how to play a market I think.
  • palpha2clearancepalpha2clearance Member Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    outllaw wrote: »
    Well I guess you didn't miss . nything since there was never a "lobi grind" The pittance we got from accolades wasn't enough to cover anything fancy from the lobi store. Good thing you work for a living and make money right?

    If you don't make enough money to support online gaming purchases either A get out of the rapid food service industry, or B stop complaining about things you cannot afford.

    They already made a concession for "low-income" players by making the game F2P. Everything else is just fluff for those of us that can afford it.

    They were running them hidden within episodes.....and I do not spend real money for in game rewards and feature updates. I already pay to play, I do not allow my pocket book to be abused or double dipped upon. If they want me to buy it put it into the c-store at a reasonable price. No gambling bs
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