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Cryptic and 2009? O.o

pike58pike58 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
so why can't Cryptic use Uniforms and Ships so on from 2009?
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  • mandrake45mandrake45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Because CBS don't own the rights to the JJ Trek reboot.
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  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The complicated answer made simple.

    1. Paramount owns the rights to movies made with the name STAR TREK.
    2. CBS owns the rights to television made with the name STAR TREK.
    3. STO works within the CBS framework.
    4. JJ Abrams reboot is Paramount.


    It's a long story.
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  • pike58pike58 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    hippiejon wrote: »
    The complicated answer made simple.

    1. Paramount owns the rights to movies made with the name STAR TREK.
    2. CBS owns the rights to television made with the name STAR TREK.
    3. STO works within the CBS framework.
    4. JJ Abrams reboot is Paramount.


    It's a long story.
    :rolleyes:
    but STO still uses TMP, Wok, TNG (Film) Uniforms
  • podsixpodsix Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pike58 wrote: »
    but STO still uses TMP, Wok, TNG (Film) Uniforms

    A more detailed answer.

    CBS owns the rights to EVERYTHING STAR TREK prior to the 2009 movie.

    Paramount owned rights to continue making movies using the name "Star Trek" and using the names "Spock, James Kirk, Leonard McCoy, etc" and all the ship designs, costume designs, etc.

    The deal when the two were split apart, was that CBS would retain ownership of the intellectual property, and that Paramount could still make new movies using the franchise name and trademarked characters.

    This is why Paramount needed to make a "whole new universe", and why they had to redesign everything.

    CBS on the other hand, rakes in all the profits from the "prime universe" content, all the shows on DVD (did you notice that in 2009 or so, suddenly all the series and old movies got re-released to DVD?). CBS also has the rights to make new televised content.

    STO is a CBS project.

    So that's why we don't see stuff from the new Paramount universe.
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  • paxfederaticapaxfederatica Member Posts: 1,496 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    But STO still uses major storyline references to the 2009 film, specifically the Hobus supernova and the destruction of Romulus, and Spock and Nero's disappearance. Leonard Nimoy himself even refers to these events during Spock's introductory voice-over at the start of the game (which is a bit baffling in itself; he refers to his own disappearance, but if he's been gone since 2387 how can he be talking to you in 2409, much less know about anything that's happened in the meantime?). There's also at least one PvE mission ("Ground Zero") which refers directly to these events.

    If CBS doesn't own any rights to the Abramsverse IP, how could they have included all of this stuff in STO? Did they have to make a separate agreement on the side to allow it?
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Because a inter-agreement makes the events up till Spocks and Neros dissapearence (and the minutes before Nero appeared and destroyed the Kelvin) canon.

    Everything up till that point is technically part of the same universe. After the black-hole-vortex appeared in front of the Kelvin happens in the same universe...

    After that... Fork in the road.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The Trekverse is shrouded in inter-company licenses. Bill Prady, producer of The Big Bang Theory, did an interview about how he had to jump through hoops to get Paramount's, Abrams' and Quinto's permission just to use a Quinto-as-Spock cut-out in a scene. The Big Bang Theory is a CBS show.
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  • jjumetleyjjumetley Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I didn't realise it was that complicated... and stupid for the matter.
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