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th3gr4ndnagu5th3gr4ndnagu5 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
Q: (EzriRayne) One word ? Poker ? XD

Dstahl: Amazing how this one mini-game continues to come up every single Ask Cryptic. It must be a very popular game in order for it to still be around in the future. I?ve no objections to it being in the game as it appeared several times in Star Trek series. It really just boils down to a programmer having a little extra time to do this as a side project. Unfortunately, our software programmers get very little extra time. Not ruling this out, but the odds are that this is just about as rare as a Royal Flush at this point. Not impossible, just improbable in the short term.

So how much money would it take to "motivate" one of the programmers to do this in their free time?

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  • admiraljt#1430 admiraljt Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would personally donate $50 USD to the cause.
  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would personally donate $50 USD to the cause.

    I'll see your 50 and raise another 50.:)
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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm out. I just had a pair of twos.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I really don't think money is the issue. Dstahl specifically said that the programmers have little spare time... so unless you can magicially get them more spare time, I don't think it'll happen for awhile.
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  • dunespicedunespice Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They could always "schedule" time for it to actually appear in a season officially.

    I don't really like the idea of the management relying on the goodwill of a dev to use their own personal time to add in a highly requested feature.
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  • wildmousexwildmousex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I can play poker anywhere on the internet, I'ld rather see the Tri-D chess get in the game.
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  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Since players are allowed to gamble for lockboxes, Im surprised we dont have poker in STO that allows us to gamble with Z points, thus giving z points a tad boost. Doing it without gambling for Zs you could still charge for different types of playing card decks to look at, a separate Z charge for Texas Holdem, make 5 different officer quarters rooms to sell and add to players ship rooms as its own instance like the bridges, where there are 5 different poker room themes to chose from and invite your friends to. Really, theres several ways to get some honest Z points out of us with Trek Poker, Dan isnt really thinking this through, which has been my problem with him as EP, he overlooks the obvious money making opportunities right under his nose.
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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    wildmousex wrote: »
    I can play poker anywhere on the internet, I'ld rather see the Tri-D chess get in the game.

    I'd rather see bugs fixed actually than a new feature that may or may not work right.
  • dunespicedunespice Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Really, theres several ways to get some honest Z points out of us with Trek Poker, Dan isnt really thinking this through, which has been my problem with him as EP, he overlooks the obvious money making opportunities right under his nose.

    Agreed, sort of ironic, especially when the rest of the ask cryptic answers were themed at "investing in systems for the future," and yet the possibilities for revenue and ways to tie into the doff system, etc from chess or poker are completely overlooked.
    I'd rather see bugs fixed actually than a new feature that may or may not work right.

    Bug fixing and adding new gameplay features should both be possible. That's why you see things like the fleet system and a future crafting update being added.

    So they are already adding in systems, its just a matter of getting the devs to find time for all gameplay styles.
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  • retunred4goodretunred4good Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It would be nice to invite friends or fleetmates over to utilize that poker table in the crew lounge.
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  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    defalus wrote: »
    I'll see your 50 and raise another 50.:)

    I see what you did there ;-)
  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dunespice wrote: »
    Bug fixing and adding new gameplay features should both be possible. That's why you see things like the fleet system and a future crafting update being added.

    Agreed but take a look at the latest (ie last few months) patch notes and how short they've been.
  • dunespicedunespice Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Agreed but take a look at the latest (ie last few months) patch notes and how short they've been.

    True, I'm worried that the EP is devoting entire seasons to adding new gameplay systems, and then creating an environment where devs are forced to use their own personal free time to make improvements and bug fixes to those systems.

    Heretic spent hours of his personal time on fixing and adding to the doff system after its official release. (was much appreciated!) But still I fear that the fleet system will end up the same way.

    If the fleet system requires some extra work, how will they find time to add to it if their limited resources will be devoted to the new sector in season 7, or the crafting update after that?

    When I hear the EP say that the addition of a minigame falls upon a dev having free time or personal time for such a feature, it just seems unfair to the devs somehow.

    I want them to get paid for their hard work! :cool:
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  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dunespice wrote: »
    They could always "schedule" time for it to actually appear in a season officially.

    I don't really like the idea of the management relying on the goodwill of a dev to use their own personal time to add in a highly requested feature.

    I think it comes down to the fact this is a Star Trek game, not a poker game. So official work time will be more focused on the Star Trek part.
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  • dunespicedunespice Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I think it comes down to the fact this is a Star Trek game, not a poker game. So official work time will be more focused on the Star Trek part.

    I believe Star Trek is made up of the sum of many things, which - when combined - is what seperates our franchise from star wars or eve.

    The "Star Trek" part could describe many aspects.

    I for one quite enjoyed the addition of Dabo :D
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  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dunespice wrote: »
    I believe Star Trek is made up of the sum of many things, which - when combined - is what seperates our franchise from star wars or eve.

    The "Star Trek" part could describe many aspects.

    I for one quite enjoyed the addition of Dabo :D

    Poker came with my computer, there are God knows how many poker apps, and almost all of us have a deck of cards.

    You can't play dabo anywhere else.
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  • martokusmartokus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    If they were add poker in game, I might be inclined to learn to play. :p
  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dunespice wrote: »
    I for one quite enjoyed the addition of Dabo :D

    I'll the straight jacket.

    have to admit that I find myself sitting there quite often waiting for something to drop like a doff assignment for like 15 minutes. Not a whole lot to fill up that time.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Sorry, but poker isn't very entertaining in the real world so I can't understand why.

    Did they ever do poker in TOS?
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    TOS we see chess (2 and 3 d) musical instruments , something I think was ment to be a future version of backgammon (it was mostly transparent) and yes a card game (episode "A Piece of the Action")
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    That was for them to blend in though right?
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    its also where fizzbin comes from
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    So how much money would it take to "motivate" one of the programmers to do this in their free time?

    Money? How many cases of beer is one willing to buy? ;)
    I think it comes down to the fact this is a Star Trek game, not a poker game. So official work time will be more focused on the Star Trek part.

    But Poker is a good way to socialize with other players and get people to interact more with one another. Which this game needs more of, interaction that isn't forced upon (I.E. Grouping for Missions or Events).
  • martokusmartokus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    But Poker is a good way to socialize with other players and get people to interact more with one another. Which this game needs more of.

    This. I'd love to see a few poker tables in Quarks, a functional table in my crew lounge, a few tables somewhere in SB1, D7, in the fleet starbases, etc.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    do we really want More gambling??
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  • starfleetnq1starfleetnq1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    We already have poker in game,whit real money ;),its called cStore LockBox
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    gambling is of course destructive
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  • martokusmartokus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    gambling is of course destructive

    Which is why I don't gamble in real life, with real money. ECs and Latinum in game? No risk, just fun.
  • th3gr4ndnagu5th3gr4ndnagu5 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    I really don't think money is the issue. Dstahl specifically said that the programmers have little spare time... so unless you can magicially get them more spare time, I don't think it'll happen for awhile.

    You misunderstand what Im asking. Dan said they dont have much free time in their schedule, but im talking about when theyre *not* at work. How much money would it take to persuade someone to do it?

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  • dunespicedunespice Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    You misunderstand what Im asking. Dan said they dont have much free time in their schedule, but im talking about when theyre *not* at work. How much money would it take to persuade someone to do it?

    I'll donate 50 quatloos to the cause! :D
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