My fleet has both KDF and Fed versions. As far as we are concerned the war makes no sense. We have friends on BOTH sides and most of us would love to see it end and have cross faction fleets made available.
If STO wants a war between the Klingons and the Federation that is more than "you do not have authorization to enter this sector of space" then it needs to be fleshed out A LOT! Like a previous post said they can sit over Quo'Nos all day without any "political" issues...LAME. Otherwise just let players create cross-over fleets...whats the big deal? It could be "only" allowed after a certain level of advancement in either faction...just an idea. I hate to bring up another game...but in EvE online any race can join any fleet.
..according to cannon, the Dominion war strengthened ties between the Federation and the Klingon Empire. STO's "war" isn't a war...its mechanics. :P
yeah pretty much... it's there to give a story to new players... but as they progress thru missions they progress thru the timeline of the game to the point that kdf and sf are back together again.
I always wonder about this "War".. What war? There have been a handful of battles some time before the current storyline, but currently, its hardly a war.
Just because the KDF and feds aren't at peace, doesn't mean they are at war.
Even the ingame missions where you get to fight the other faction, are just short minor low level battles.
My group is also one of those that got a fed version and a KDF side version of our fleet. But I mostly play KDF side because I love the feel and the visual options (ships, costumes, bridge, etc), and most of my friends play on Federation side. Sure its good for STF missions. Or hanging around DS9 and roleplaying.
But we can't do much else together.
So would love to see more cross-faction stuff like cross-faction fleets and cross-faction teaming.
The war storyline feels like it was only made to have a reason for cross-faction pvp. But since pvp is almost non-existance. Why not rename it..
KDF vs KDF are house battles.
Fed vs Fed are training simulations.
Fed vs KDF is combat training.
"Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons." Spock to Kirk, as Kirk is about to hug him.
Star Trek V: "The Final Frontier"
I always wonder about this "War".. What war? There have been a handful of battles some time before the current storyline, but currently, its hardly a war.
Just because the KDF and feds aren't at peace, doesn't mean they are at war.
Even the ingame missions where you get to fight the other faction, are just short minor low level battles.
My group is also one of those that got a fed version and a KDF side version of our fleet. But I mostly play KDF side because I love the feel and the visual options (ships, costumes, bridge, etc), and most of my friends play on Federation side. Sure its good for STF missions. Or hanging around DS9 and roleplaying.
But we can't do much else together.
So would love to see more cross-faction stuff like cross-faction fleets and cross-faction teaming.
The war storyline feels like it was only made to have a reason for cross-faction pvp. But since pvp is almost non-existance. Why not rename it..
KDF vs KDF are house battles.
Fed vs Fed are training simulations.
Fed vs KDF is combat training.
Just give us cross-faction fleets and cross-faction teaming already!
End this non existing war nonsense, players clearly don't care enough about PvP for this "not at peace" story to continue!
"Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons." Spock to Kirk, as Kirk is about to hug him.
Star Trek V: "The Final Frontier"
If STO wants a war between the Klingons and the Federation that is more than "you do not have authorization to enter this sector of space" then it needs to be fleshed out A LOT!
..according to cannon, the Dominion war strengthened ties between the Federation and the Klingon Empire. STO's "war" isn't a war...its mechanics. :P
According to STO, Path to 2409, the war started due to the KDF expanding and retaking old territories once claimed by them. Khitomer and Cestus, to name a few, in the wake of the Romulan destabilization after the suprnova. As well StarFleets refusal to help the KDF hunt the Undine has caused strife between our factions.
It was an excellent storyline put in place that they only half-assed followed and developed as the game grew. I agree they need to flesh it out to show the Undine subversion of the qaudrant under the strings of the Iconians. The Borg re-ermergence into the quadrant at the strings of the Iconians, The felk'lri returning to attack the Homeworld under the fingers of the Iconians.
There is much the Devs need to flesh out before they just roll-over, drop thier ideas for the storyline behind STO and give in to fan pressure of how the fans think things should be.
Give us the full story before you just give up completely and make STO a true marketing platform instead of a game to be enjoyed.
Do not end the war prematurely due to fan pressures, tell your story first Cryptic.
I also believe that as the game progresses two factions should become obvious. However there are multiple playable sides in each faction (similar to the Alliance and Horde in WoW)
For Example:
One one side there is: Starfleet, KDF, Dominion, other future races
and on the other: Romulan, Iconian, Undine, and other future races
Ultimate Enemy Race: THE BORG
A Neutral "Pirate" Based Race: The Ferengi
so now to see what all you think about this...
Admiral Jisil T'ror Admiral Sovak Does anyone remember when we used to be explorers...
Mature highbrow humor aside, I would love for my Vulcan and Orion characters to be in the same fleet. The KDF side is less... populated. There's just many more people to team up with on the fed side. Many people are saying in the forums that Cryptic designed Starbases as they are to encourage social interaction and for people to work together. That's not quite as easy on the KDF side. The reason it's like this is because of the annoying and unnecessary level restriction on making KDF characters. There's many changes that can be made, but changes do need to be made. The least of which is making a Federation Orion race purchasable like the Federation Klingon race. That probably doesn't have to do with the conversation but I like Orion gals and thought I'd throw it out there.
I've suggested several times over the years that the Third Faction in the game should be a conjoined KDF/Fed Faction. Sort of a Neutral Zone Faction much like how it's handled in the STFs. The Faction could play all Fed or KDF Missions and have access to some unique ships designed solely for the Faction - though they could still use the existing ships as well.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Since we are post-2800, this would make sense against the Borg. That was the whole point of the conference at the start, that war or no war there is a common enemy.
With the current game feel, I think it would be good to end the Federation-Klingon war in an FE or at least single, cross-faction mission and allow cross-faction fleets. We already have KDF and FED working side by side in STF, hanging out together in the federation station DS9. However, those of us with KDF alts and great FED fleets are left out. I prefer playing my KDF yet when fleet bases come out, I'll be forced to play FED to participate with the ppl i enjoy flying with.
I would like to see them but not in the way many want. I'd would like it so all characters despite of faction are in the same fleet and can team up to queue in STF's together. But they can't do other missions together, beam into Qo'Nos/ESB unless their character is of that faction. So many fleets have a fleet for the Federation and for the KDF.
This would help to nail down the a large amount of fleets that only have a handful of players in them, it would allow more players to be able to use the Fleet chat system as so many just don't know how to join private channel even how to accept invites even after getting a detailed walk through. It would encourage more players playing both factions rather than just the one and would help to unite the community more, that has to be a good thing right?
Both factions are at war and only work together for mutual survival against the Borg. As the Klingon's have been known to say, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.
According to STO, Path to 2409, the war started due to the KDF expanding and retaking old territories once claimed by them. Khitomer and Cestus, to name a few, in the wake of the Romulan destabilization after the suprnova. As well StarFleets refusal to help the KDF hunt the Undine has caused strife between our factions.
It was an excellent storyline put in place that they only half-assed followed and developed as the game grew. I agree they need to flesh it out to show the Undine subversion of the qaudrant under the strings of the Iconians. The Borg re-ermergence into the quadrant at the strings of the Iconians, The felk'lri returning to attack the Homeworld under the fingers of the Iconians.
There is much the Devs need to flesh out before they just roll-over, drop thier ideas for the storyline behind STO and give in to fan pressure of how the fans think things should be.
Give us the full story before you just give up completely and make STO a true marketing platform instead of a game to be enjoyed.
Do not end the war prematurely due to fan pressures, tell your story first Cryptic.
Well said I agree, they just need to get back on track, show some sort of focus and direction. The Dominion missions just made no sense and really don't fit in with the storyline. I would love to see that corrected.
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This. Same here.
..according to cannon, the Dominion war strengthened ties between the Federation and the Klingon Empire. STO's "war" isn't a war...its mechanics. :P
Just because the KDF and feds aren't at peace, doesn't mean they are at war.
Even the ingame missions where you get to fight the other faction, are just short minor low level battles.
My group is also one of those that got a fed version and a KDF side version of our fleet. But I mostly play KDF side because I love the feel and the visual options (ships, costumes, bridge, etc), and most of my friends play on Federation side. Sure its good for STF missions. Or hanging around DS9 and roleplaying.
But we can't do much else together.
So would love to see more cross-faction stuff like cross-faction fleets and cross-faction teaming.
The war storyline feels like it was only made to have a reason for cross-faction pvp. But since pvp is almost non-existance. Why not rename it..
KDF vs KDF are house battles.
Fed vs Fed are training simulations.
Fed vs KDF is combat training.
Spock to Kirk, as Kirk is about to hug him.
Star Trek V: "The Final Frontier"
So every member of your crew is your enemy? :cool:
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Just give us cross-faction fleets and cross-faction teaming already!
End this non existing war nonsense, players clearly don't care enough about PvP for this "not at peace" story to continue!
Spock to Kirk, as Kirk is about to hug him.
Star Trek V: "The Final Frontier"
According to STO, Path to 2409, the war started due to the KDF expanding and retaking old territories once claimed by them. Khitomer and Cestus, to name a few, in the wake of the Romulan destabilization after the suprnova. As well StarFleets refusal to help the KDF hunt the Undine has caused strife between our factions.
It was an excellent storyline put in place that they only half-assed followed and developed as the game grew. I agree they need to flesh it out to show the Undine subversion of the qaudrant under the strings of the Iconians. The Borg re-ermergence into the quadrant at the strings of the Iconians, The felk'lri returning to attack the Homeworld under the fingers of the Iconians.
There is much the Devs need to flesh out before they just roll-over, drop thier ideas for the storyline behind STO and give in to fan pressure of how the fans think things should be.
Give us the full story before you just give up completely and make STO a true marketing platform instead of a game to be enjoyed.
Do not end the war prematurely due to fan pressures, tell your story first Cryptic.
R.I.P
Not for long.
Re-unification is part of the plan for the game.
I also believe that as the game progresses two factions should become obvious. However there are multiple playable sides in each faction (similar to the Alliance and Horde in WoW)
For Example:
One one side there is: Starfleet, KDF, Dominion, other future races
and on the other: Romulan, Iconian, Undine, and other future races
Ultimate Enemy Race: THE BORG
A Neutral "Pirate" Based Race: The Ferengi
so now to see what all you think about this...
Admiral Sovak
Does anyone remember when we used to be explorers...
And in the next post...
Mature highbrow humor aside, I would love for my Vulcan and Orion characters to be in the same fleet. The KDF side is less... populated. There's just many more people to team up with on the fed side. Many people are saying in the forums that Cryptic designed Starbases as they are to encourage social interaction and for people to work together. That's not quite as easy on the KDF side. The reason it's like this is because of the annoying and unnecessary level restriction on making KDF characters. There's many changes that can be made, but changes do need to be made. The least of which is making a Federation Orion race purchasable like the Federation Klingon race. That probably doesn't have to do with the conversation but I like Orion gals and thought I'd throw it out there.
Someone just needs to open the lockbox with the peace treaty in it.
500 years in the future and we still look like schmucks when getting our ID photos taken...
Fixed it for ya'
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We are the Dead
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This would help to nail down the a large amount of fleets that only have a handful of players in them, it would allow more players to be able to use the Fleet chat system as so many just don't know how to join private channel even how to accept invites even after getting a detailed walk through. It would encourage more players playing both factions rather than just the one and would help to unite the community more, that has to be a good thing right?
Both factions are at war and only work together for mutual survival against the Borg. As the Klingon's have been known to say, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.
Well said I agree, they just need to get back on track, show some sort of focus and direction. The Dominion missions just made no sense and really don't fit in with the storyline. I would love to see that corrected.