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So, STO was 7 bucks on Steam, so I figured what the hell, I'll give it a try despite the bad reviews. Log in for the first time, "Wow, this is really fun, how did it get such a bad rep. Oh great Lt 6, klingons?! I love klingons, lemme give this a try. Oh, no wonder it has such a bad rep."
Is my dismay misplaced here? From the reading I've done on this forum as well as others, its very obvious there is a lack of klingon pve content, ok great. Is that going to be fixed? I usually play the 'bad guys' or protagonists in MMOs that I play, and I've always been a big fan of klingons in the star trek universe so it was a natural path for me, but upon making the character and getting to lt 9, I've suddenly run out of missions to do, unless I just want to grind out Pi Canis a bunch of times, which I don't mind if there was some sort of carrot. Do people actually play Klingon's as their 'main character'?
My very limited view point thus far is that I hardly ever see another KDF player, and when I do, they aren't very high ranked? Is this mainly an 'alt' faction? If I were to go about attempting to play this faction as my main playstyle, is that even viable, or am I suddenly going to run out of stuff to do aside from pvp once I hit a certain level?
Is my dismay misplaced here? From the reading I've done on this forum as well as others, its very obvious there is a lack of klingon pve content, ok great. Is that going to be fixed? I usually play the 'bad guys' or protagonists in MMOs that I play, and I've always been a big fan of klingons in the star trek universe so it was a natural path for me, but upon making the character and getting to lt 9, I've suddenly run out of missions to do, unless I just want to grind out Pi Canis a bunch of times, which I don't mind if there was some sort of carrot. Do people actually play Klingon's as their 'main character'?
My very limited view point thus far is that I hardly ever see another KDF player, and when I do, they aren't very high ranked? Is this mainly an 'alt' faction? If I were to go about attempting to play this faction as my main playstyle, is that even viable, or am I suddenly going to run out of stuff to do aside from pvp once I hit a certain level?
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<-- Lazira Irun, Joined Trill KDF Lt. General right there.
You have Pi Canis like you mentioned, as well as Nebula exploration missions, which are a good source of gear via the badges you earn by doing them.
There are story missions every few levels from Chancellor J'mpok.
At General levels, you get the Special Task Forces and some of the Borg and Undine content in Gamma Orionis.
At all levels, you can do the Daferi arc of 5 missions in the Orellius sector block, and the Dividian arc of 5 missions in Eta Eridani. Doing those grants extra dailies that are decent XP and grant emblems for gear at max level.
It's not as content rich as Feds, but it's remarkably better than it used to be. We should be getting another weekly series soon here, which will of course, add more.
Personally, I treat both my Starfleet and KDF characters with equal respect, just my KDF character is newer and far less people would recognize her.
The thing about Klingons is that since they are so combat based, most of their XP and such will come from Player vs Player fights. Klingons have many unique ships (and missions) that are more or less very ideal and revolve around Player vs Player environments and I'm sure you'd find it lots of fun to actually destroy other Captains, or fleets, that are your enemy!
Once you have levelled 2 Fed charaters to Rear Admiral or Vice Admiral, you won't really find the existing missions satisfying on the 3rd time. My 3rd Fed I played almost like a Klingon character (maybe with more PvE and less PvP).
And ocne you have reached "endgame" as Vice Admiral or Major General, there isn't really any difference. The weekly episodes are faction-agnostic. The Exploration missions exist for both sides. The new Dailies exist mostly for both sides (actually, now Klingons have the advantage with the new Sorties in Pi Canis.)
I am even a causal player (10-15 hours a week max). I started on the FED side and got to RA on one character, found the play a little boring and then switched to Klingon to PvP. Which is not boring at all.
It is a little different than playing a FED though. While there is more content after season three, It has been primarily a PvP faction.
But if you do PvP you will get skill points, badges and Energy Credits (PvP matches are the only missions that I've seen that give out EC). And you will get those rewards win or lose.
A word to the wise, whatever ship he is flying or what ever side he is on .......kill hale, if he is on your side and you get scramble sensors on you don't waste the opportunity to kill hale
The Foundry is a tool that is still in beta, but it allows everyone to create their own missions that everyone can play. It will help adding allot of content for both the Klingons and the Federation.
Yeah, it kinda still is a grind, but still you can have lots of fun with all the daily missions we now have access to. Of course, it also helps if you enjoy doing a couple PvP matches from time to time.
Try to find and group with fellow Klingons, as this will make the daily missions even more fun than they already are. There's nothing better than some proper KDF teamplay and the sense of "hunting in a pack".
Also, be sure to join the "KDFassistance" chat channel in addition to other sub-communities that you may be interested in.
Klingon (Nausicaan) Main here
Honestly out of 6 characters, I only have 2 feds, both at Rear Admiral upper... but Klingons are my home base. Just as you, I ALWAYS love playing the 'bad guys' more. In KotOR 1 & 2, I was always the supremely evil jedi, in Fable 1 & 2, I ruled over Albion with a spiky clenched fist... I just can't resist taking the darker path to riches and glory. Even my FEDS wear all black, and have delightfully evil ships with names like "Hell Fire" and "Ragnarok". LOL
So yes, a Klingon main is VERY easily viable. You just have to get used to repetition at certain levels in your development. Once the Breen asteriod rubble bug gets fixed, it will be a lot easier. Oh, and when you get the sweet mission where you go fight the Klingon version of SATAN, then you will REALLY be happy. My favorite mission in the entire game... even better than the Q mission on the fed side!
I guess you could do the same thing as a fed character, but its not the same in pvp. Plus, a casual player is going to want to log on, shoot in space for a half hour, and log off. Much easier on a klingon who can just pop over to the Kahless expanse.
With a fed character, you'd have to hunt down an enemy signal contact or do a PvE mission. And when you only have a half hour to play, who wants to be chasing enemy ships?
(The funny thing is whenever you want an enemy signal contact, their never there...but when you DONT want one, there's always one right up your aft impulse manifold. lol)
Anyway, I suggest playing both and depending on how much time you have and your playstyle, make the decision for yourself.
Cheers
Quite fun actually.
Doesn't make sence not to choose a warrior race in a time of war.
The PvE content is lacking (oh if only we had the DSE missions rather then the Kahless expanse type missions) and the xp rewarded is pitiful when compared to the amount of effort required.
Those 'defeat the ____' missions are AWESOME!!! The first time you do it, you get WAY more exp than any single mission at that level gives you. The stupid 'defeat the cardassian' mission gives you like 900 exp for just blowing up like 10 ships once through! Also, if you STAY in the instance until it 'refreshes'... you litterally have to destroy like 2 more ships to complete the first of 3. I run through ALL those missions at least once. It gives you such a huge boost to your exp. Well worth the 10 minutes it takes to fly there and do the mission.
Although, now that we have 2 sets of dalies for the deferi/devidian missions... and mission replay. You can litterally do both sets of dalies in about an hour and 1/2, and then replay the better high yield exp deferi/devidian missions in about another hour and 1/2. So in 3 hours, you can grind out about 4ish or more levels. Thats not bad at all!
In fact, my Lt.Cmdr raptor captain went from LtCmdr 2, to LtCmdr 6 in about 2 hours after doing cold comfort, and all the dalies. So logically, you could grind out a single rank increase in about 5-6 hours. If you have a day off, or just no life you could conceiveably gain Lt.Gen in about a week if you play about 5 hours every day! LOL Vacation, here I come!
I started my first real Kling at the beginning of Season 2 and leveled it to Lt. Gen. by the end of October. Since my fleet disbanded mid November I have played nothing but Kling. I think they are very viable to main as I still have fun with my Lt. Gen. As of Season 3 it has gotten much better. Yes you still have to grind explores between real PvE missions, especially if you can't find any PvP. Yes those "Defeat the _____" missions, Treagersama mentioned offer a lot of experience up front but just like explore missions the payout reduces once you turn the first in. One could say at this point it is a little better for Klings at endgame as we now get what the Feds have plus the sack Pi Cannis missions that Gozer made for us. (But if I said anything about that bunch of the Feds would go all Q_Q and make demands for satisfaction.)
It's your game boss just be assured it is allot better than it was and it should keep getting better as the game's producer, DStahl, professes to play a Kling.
Leveling is more difficult for Klingons, but the endcontent is basicly the same; with the new raids Klingons might even have a little more now. So yes, a Klingon works as a main.
And honestly, leveling works that fast in STO that you can, on the long term, easy level up multible characters.
I have 1 Fed Vice Admiral and 2 Lt. Cmdr's.
As you can see I enjoy spending my time on the KDF side much, much more. Part of it is the community and part of it is the inane Fed content. I mean how many times do you get tricked by the Udine into doing something stupid as a Feddie?
Fed: 1 VAdm, 1 Cdr
My Klingon (Valias) was my first main, even though I planned from the beginning to have a character in every faction. However, back then, the KDF had extremely little content and 100% PvP wasn't really viable for me on the long run, so at roughly T3 (the "lean period") I switched to my Vulcan Scientist (T'Lana) who happened to become my first max level character, overtaking Val. She used to fly a Nova until T4, briefly switching into a Cheyenne-class, but now commanding an Excelsior.
I grew weary of all the Fed whining about carriers (or KvF PvP in general), so I decided my next character would be a Fed Tactical escort captain, showing people how it's done, so I created Kaylen. She's yet got to reach T5 and actually get into a match with a carrier, but so far she has done nicely in PvP matches, faring fairly okay in space (definitively more wins than losses and being a good teamplayer) and absolutely pwning people on ground with her hand-to-hand maneuvers.
Then it was announced that we get a T5 version of the B'rel, which is one of my favorite Trek ships ever, so I knew instantly I had to get Val up to the General tier because, by Kahless, she needs this one! Fortunately the devs also rolled out some new PvE content, so I took this as a chance to experience these new missions as well. Together with a rekindled interest in PvP, Val blasted through the last couple levels and reached the rank of LtG a few weeks before the B'rel hit the C-Store. Since she still had a ship token I didn't even had to buy it for CP. Qapla'!
The reason that Kaylen isn't yet T5 is my newest character, the Orion Cora, who started out as one of Valias' Bridge Officers and was recreated as a player character for both roleplaying as well as experiencing another angle of the KDF (stylewise). Naturally, the end goal here is the Marauder Patrol Cruiser.
Right now I'm balancing my attention between Kaylen (whose Akira has a fittingly devastating torpedo salvo - did you know that High Yield buffs do in fact stack?) and Cora (who sticks to the Raptors for now). The latter can regularly be seen prowling Pi Canis on the lookout for easy plunder.
So, this is the evolution of my characters, not counting any "one-offs" I created and deleted again. As you can see, I've had a lot of fun in STO, and a good deal of it happened on the Klingon side.
I got to about Cmdr 5 and due to lack of content (It was like 1 1/2 months from launch) on the Klingon side, I created an Engie Cruiser fed... then got tired of my Tac captain so erased her and made a sci officer... got bored of my tac Klingon, so I erased her and made a Kling sci (Still have that one, "The Reagent") then made ANOTHER alien tac captain on the fed side (Still have that one) Then ANOTHER sci fed... sigh... so on and so on...
Yeah, I have 6 full character slots... 'finished' the game (Reached max level) with 4 different fed characters and 2 Klingons... and out of all those original characters that finished the game... I have only 1. I have replayed the fed side twice through with all three officer types.
Right now, due mainly to the new weekly episodes that have come out and in anticipation of more soon... I now have 4 Klingons:
The Reagent, LtGen Sci Alien Carrier
Jattari, Cap 6 Tac Orion BoP
Cytheria, LtCmdr 3 Tac Alien Raptor (Crafter)
Hiroe, LtCmdr 7 Eng Alien Cruiser
And only 2 feds:
Lunari, RA upper Tac Alien Escort
Noriko, RA lower Eng Alien Cruiser
So counting all the characters I have leveled at LEAST to RA/BG, and enevitably deleted... I have had about 13 characters total. Thats NOT counting 2 characters (Klingons) I ended up deleting at Cmdr level due to boredom (lack of content before season 2). Nowadays though, I actually LOVE leveling my Klingons, and its only getting better!
Granted, it was an experience comparable to having a Cardassian dentist, but even so, I did it pretty fast, about 2 weeks from LT to BG3.
The hardest part is getting to BG3.
Once you have access to Gamma Orionsis, the levelling becomes much faster,
One hour in the enemy signal contacts and he was BG5.
And it wasn't overly long to reach LG either.
So, it can be done if you have the patience.
And yes, my KDF is equally as important as my Fed.
My Kling is probably my main now due to it being the better geared, and more fun to play...the Eng Fed runs a Sci ship and is very low dps and boring; the Tact Fed runs a Adv Escort and I can't see anything to work to (unlike the Kling who I wanted to try the T5 Carrier and Patrol Cruiser).
Kling is good but very repetitive with the low amount of any story lines (although what is given is better than Fed side imo)
KDF offers some unique ship options that may or may not fit your play style.
Because at the endgame of the game, both feds and klinkers basically are doing the same stuff.