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When will npc animations function for published missions?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited December 2010 in The Foundry for Star Trek Online - Discussion & Feedback
So? When? My missions look TRIBBLE with people standing on chairs or just standing around in general. How are we supposed to rate missions when basic functions don't function? My Orion Queen can't Seduce me with her dance... It really ruins the experience for me... I can only imagine the grief other players have as well.

This is a basic functionality issue... How can we know things are working when they don't work at all?

Why should we even bother with them at all?

Please turn the NPC animations on... You're Killin' Us over Here...
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I understand this is already working on the private test server so its just a matter of time at this point.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Napoleon_BlownApart wrote:
    So? When? My missions look TRIBBLE with people standing on chairs or just standing around in general. How are we supposed to rate missions when basic functions don't function? My Orion Queen can't Seduce me with her dance... It really ruins the experience for me... I can only imagine the grief other players have as well.

    This is a basic functionality issue... How can we know things are working when they don't work at all?

    Why should we even bother with them at all?

    Please turn the NPC animations on... You're Killin' Us over Here...

    They're either working on releasing a bunch of Foundry improvements together as a new patch release or they are having their Christmas party. Either way, we're going to have to be patient. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Are they not functioning after publishing? or only while previewing a map?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    NPC animations only function in the editor... When published and played normally they do not.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Darren_Kitlor wrote:
    Are they not functioning after publishing? or only while previewing a map?

    You never noticed?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    well considering i can get npcs making interactions with things such as consoles, get them to beam in (kind of) when I see fit(I still need to throw a pop-up dialog to make them do it properly), warping in, and I haven't really played with much else in my mission(tried warp out/beam out- but they are currently broken) as of yet.

    SOME animations do work properly, while others don't. Its just a matter of working around the limitations. instead of having them sit there, have them stand up by the bar and engage in conversation or something. Just find a way around until foundry gets its update
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Well... the new patch is downloading now... I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Napoleon_BlownApart wrote:
    Well... the new patch is downloading now... I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
    PATCH NOTES wrote:
    UGC
    • Many stability improvements have been made.
    • Misc improvements to the Project Editor. Moved the buttons, improved the layout, etc.
    • Fixing exterior map snaps that were missing after a publish. Also should eliminate an error about map
    • snap resolution being too high.
    • There has been a UI pass over the Story Editor:
    • Titlebars on all every node describe what this node is
    • The whole node is no longer draggable, so you don't get the flickering hand.
    • Consistent Play and Trash button in the properties window.
    • Consistent title in the properties window.
    • Better looking Grant Mission Prompt and selected node highlighting.
    • Fix for bug where you could no longer interact with a mission node.
    • Adding a scroll bar to asset library description.
    • Make asset library picker windows modal. Should prevent awful things like maps being deleted while open in the picker
    • Fix problem where having a deferred UGC mission would incorrectly re-init all missions instead of just the UGC mission on the player.
    • Fix for crash when deleting a component off of an objective would cause the map the objective is on to change.
    • Fix for encounter system crash that shows up in UGC map preview. (COR-11850)
    • Fix a positional bug with the UGC search details text"
    • Search UI Improvements have been made
    • Fixed the duplicate Marauder Battle Barge ship costumes. They have been changed to properly show
    • "Varanus Fleet Support Vessel" and "Vulcan D'Kyr Vessel."
    • Disable foundry search tabs in mission UI until fed players have completed the tutorial

    well apart from the last change, i am liking the sounds of what bthey have done to UGC. a shame my interwebz is on my mobile phone until Jan 17th(i have about 7GB access left before i pay through my teeth)- i would LOVE to sink my teeth into this
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yeah.. I saw that... just waiting for the server to come back up...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Galactrix wrote: »
    You never noticed?
    I'm asking for calrification. Things ahve changed since I was in Closed Beta.

    For me, NPC mob animations still work work (though wandering doesn't work until after publish).

    Not quite sure what the OP was getting at, so I asked for clarification. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    NPC animations do not function in published missions outside of the editor... What part of that do you not understand? If you have an NPC sitting in a chair... when you play the mission outside the editor they will be standing on the chair... Is that clear enough for you?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    My NPC that cowers in fear is now cowering in fear properly on the published mission.

    But......

    Now the NPC mob ships that I costumed so that bad guys could appear to be friendly aren't wearing their costumes.

    The foundry giveth, the foundry taketh away. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Interesting... I lost my NPC costumes in space & my ground NPC just stand on their chairs and medical beds... My Dancing Orion Girls won't dance either... and something with ground combat feels different...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Napoleon_BlownApart wrote:
    Interesting... I lost my NPC costumes in space & my ground NPC just stand on their chairs and medical beds... My Dancing Orion Girls won't dance either... and something with ground combat feels different...

    Hmm, I only have the one cowering NPC. The rest are stationary. Maybe certain actions work and others don't? Or maybe its just my mistaken rememberance. If you get a chance, play my mission and tell me if it works? When you beam down to the planet, you have to talk to an NPC doctor and her cowering research buddy. Let me know if she isn't cowering. Facility of Fools is the title.


    What is your mish and I will test it out and see if they behave diff for me...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Hmmm... let me think... My problem is that I have 6 connected episodes...

    Dancing Orion Girls are a feature at the end of episode 1 - Rescue - .

    Episode 2 - Re-Ani-Rescue - is fine.

    Ship skins are not an issue until episode 3 - The Gauntlet Falls - The Orion Queens Flagship should be an Orion Dreadnought

    Episode 4 - Into the Breach - has ship skins issues - the same as above

    Episode 5 - My Thorns Have Roses Has Ship skin issues the same as above and animation issues with the Queen's Flagship Dream Sequence.

    Episode 6 - Memory Alpha and Beta - Has Ground NPC animation issues with the very first map Memory Beta and the next to the last Map with the Queen's Bed Chamber & the Ceremony Hall.

    I also had issues with NPC's getting killed after taking collateral damage in some of the fights... I solved this by changing to a pop-up dialog instead of talk to contact. So Maybe I'll give them weapons as well...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Napoleon_BlownApart wrote:
    Hmmm... let me think... My problem is that I have 6 connected episodes...

    Dancing Orion Girls are a feature at the end of episode 1 - Rescue - .

    Episode 2 - Re-Ani-Rescue - is fine.

    Ship skins are not an issue until episode 3 - The Gauntlet Falls - The Orion Queens Flagship should be an Orion Dreadnought

    Episode 4 - Into the Breach - has ship skins issues - the same as above

    Episode 5 - My Thorns Have Roses Has Ship skin issues the same as above and animation issues with the Queen's Flagship Dream Sequence.

    Episode 6 - Memory Alpha and Beta - Has Ground NPC animation issues with the very first map Memory Beta and the next to the last Map with the Queen's Bed Chamber & the Ceremony Hall.

    I also had issues with NPC's getting killed after taking collateral damage in some of the fights... I solved this by changing to a pop-up dialog instead of talk to contact. So Maybe I'll give them weapons as well...
    TRIBBLE. Went to play rescue, got to Honad, and got a message saying tribble is coming down in 5 minutes. I'll hit it agin as soon as it comes up.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    boglejam wrote: »
    TRIBBLE. Went to play rescue, got to Honad, and got a message saying tribble is coming down in 5 minutes. I'll hit it agin as soon as it comes up.

    Are they actually doing some kind of maintenance or patch?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    main issue was NPC actors set with idle animation of sit in chair or sit + anything else

    they would not be sitting, either they would be standing or running around really fast

    after publish
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Napoleon_BlownApart wrote:
    NPC animations do not function in published missions outside of the editor... What part of that do you not understand? If you have an NPC sitting in a chair... when you play the mission outside the editor they will be standing on the chair... Is that clear enough for you?

    not all NPC animations are crippled in this way:

    I know the decloak, warp in, and beam in animations work, as well as the various interaction animations.

    sitting in chairs and beam out/warp out may be broken, yes- but that doesnt mean every animation is broken
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Galactrix wrote: »
    Are they actually doing some kind of maintenance or patch?

    I see no posts in tribble or the news network, but yeah- server is down
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Napoleon_BlownApart wrote:
    Hmmm... let me think... My problem is that I have 6 connected episodes...

    Dancing Orion Girls are a feature at the end of episode 1 - Rescue - .

    Episode 2 - Re-Ani-Rescue - is fine.

    Ship skins are not an issue until episode 3 - The Gauntlet Falls - The Orion Queens Flagship should be an Orion Dreadnought

    Episode 4 - Into the Breach - has ship skins issues - the same as above

    Episode 5 - My Thorns Have Roses Has Ship skin issues the same as above and animation issues with the Queen's Flagship Dream Sequence.

    Episode 6 - Memory Alpha and Beta - Has Ground NPC animation issues with the very first map Memory Beta and the next to the last Map with the Queen's Bed Chamber & the Ceremony Hall.

    I also had issues with NPC's getting killed after taking collateral damage in some of the fights... I solved this by changing to a pop-up dialog instead of talk to contact. So Maybe I'll give them weapons as well...

    I just played rescue. The green ladies dance when they are supposed to be dancing. Too bad I didn't have any singles to tip them with....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    boglejam wrote: »
    I just played rescue. The green ladies dance when they are supposed to be dancing. Too bad I didn't have any singles to tip them with....

    I just tried my mission again and none of the NPCs are doing any animations still.

    Do you have to republish? Because I tried that yesterday and they still weren't doing animations. How about chat bubbles? Are they not working still either?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Hooray... all my ground NPC animations worked for me... I only missed a space skin or two... no biggie... I Was VERY PLEASED to run through all 6 ?!? of my episodes to check for playability... They are tough NO DOUBT...

    Here's a link to some screen shots I just Took...http://thequantumcafe.com/network/photos/255-napoleon-blownapart/photo?albumid=4#photoid=26

    Episodes are:

    Rescue
    Re-Ani-Rescue
    The Gauntlet Falls
    Into the Breach
    My Thorns Have Roses
    Memory Alpha and Beta
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Galactrix wrote: »
    I just tried my mission again and none of the NPCs are doing any animations still.

    Do you have to republish? Because I tried that yesterday and they still weren't doing animations. How about chat bubbles? Are they not working still either?

    I think some of the more complex animations might still not be working...like ones with snap-ins to onjects like lying down (on a bed). All I have seen work are Napoleans green dancing ladies and my cowering research assistant.

    Give me a mission name of yours and I will play thru it and see whats up if I can.

    Anyone want to test mine for me, its "Facility of Fools". Thanks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    My medical patients were laying down... my "chained to wall" beasties were working and my "scan standing" & "scan kneeling" were working fine as well as "clap". "Hover clawing energy" did not function as well as space ally ship skins... space NPC Contact skins funtioned normally.

    Over All I'm very pleased... My missions function very well now. Close enough for full enjoyment...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    boglejam wrote: »
    I think some of the more complex animations might still not be working...like ones with snap-ins to onjects like lying down (on a bed). All I have seen work are Napoleans green dancing ladies and my cowering research assistant.

    Give me a mission name of yours and I will play thru it and see whats up if I can.

    Anyone want to test mine for me, its "Facility of Fools". Thanks.

    You can test my missions in my signature if you want, but today I withdrew them completely and then republished them again and now the animations are working!

    My Orion slavegirls dance and the background characters chat! :) So now I'm pleased with those.

    Now, the only things broken again by the latest patch seem to be NPC Ship Contact costumes (the all show up as alien cruisers no matter what you set them to) and NPC space groups don't seem to wander any more.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Just when you think you might be done... There you are...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    hopefully my withdrawl and republish of my mission will have also fixed the delayed warp in animation.

    Unfortunately for me- i wont be able to test it myself, since I will be spending too much time rubberbanding
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