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Give the Klingons a War!! Not more TRIBBLE we wont do.
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Klingons were suposed to be the "PvP" faction, at launch people knew this and many chose it because of this reason. Play off it dont fight it. Most wanted a war not PvE that would go stale after a week and take months to create. If you dont want the Klingon resubs then continue the course you are on now and listen to the "Fed-ons" that are left. If you want any chance to get the Klingons back into the game give us a WAR!!!
I suggest creating a "Neutral" zone where factions can fight each other for various control points. It could work something like this.
You could fly into the neutral zone and it would open you up for PvP (so its completely voluntary). You could then go into a planetary zone and fight for space supremacy, then control of a space station or stations (you can seize control of it or majority of them by boarding them and taking them over). You can then Beam to the surface and begin taking over planetary bases. Allow fleets to be able to take control of these stations and bases and its their responsibility to build up the defenses and protect them.
This wouldn't have to be pretty it is a war zone after all. This would allow the player base years of content for the same developer investment the players go thru in a matter of days. You made a PvP faction now give us the war you promised, and watch the Klingon re-subs come in.
I suggest creating a "Neutral" zone where factions can fight each other for various control points. It could work something like this.
You could fly into the neutral zone and it would open you up for PvP (so its completely voluntary). You could then go into a planetary zone and fight for space supremacy, then control of a space station or stations (you can seize control of it or majority of them by boarding them and taking them over). You can then Beam to the surface and begin taking over planetary bases. Allow fleets to be able to take control of these stations and bases and its their responsibility to build up the defenses and protect them.
This wouldn't have to be pretty it is a war zone after all. This would allow the player base years of content for the same developer investment the players go thru in a matter of days. You made a PvP faction now give us the war you promised, and watch the Klingon re-subs come in.
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I don't want to dismiss the work you have done, and I appreciate the additions and still love this game, but true war zones would bring more to this game than a few new missions.
That all being said, I think the refit ships will offer more variety and playstyles which is a great thing for this game.
None the less, there has been a change of command, so this may have been scraped...but even if it hasnt, we need to voice our desires in order to help keep this content request visible and relevant.
Lastly, are continued input may be able influence its development.
But yes, we need a dynamic and open, terrirtory capture, war model.
I honestly think the new guy has his finger on the pulse.
I would not consider it harsh. It is what we were made to be, it was them who said Klingons were the "PvP" faction so the focus should be better PvP! And then add PvE content once we have a decent PvP system.
And why would Klingons want more Fed players??? Thats the reason we get new outfits instead of anything meaningfull!!! Klingons had a nice population at launch and most of those left because all we had was a few decent PvP maps to choose from. If they had a decent PvP system alot of those KLINGONS will return...
As for Klingons being PvP only, you're welcome to swallow the party line, but as I've said before, it's quite clear that Klingons were just unfinished at (the very early) release, and calling them PvP only was a convenient way to sucker people into believing the content was done. Look at the many (many) fix Klingon threads through this forum - PvP was but a small part of the overall broken whole that needed (or needs) work.
None of this detracts from a welcome desire for more & better PvP - but if you go around throwing around names at anyone who disagrees with you just because they'd actually like an immersive Klingon PvE experience as well as excellent PvP (you know, like the Federation gets but better written), well, it's not going to help your cause.
So, in summary, yes this would be great. Your somewhat ranting approach leaves a lot to be desired.
Edit: In all seriousness, no I'm not trolling nor trying to be dismissive - I just think that the Klingon population is small enough without labelling or suggesting that somehow those that remain are poor imitations. Some of us have been here a while too. It's not how you win over an audience. On the plus side, at least you didn't use that terrible mis-applied word, carebears.
I am not the one who 1st called the Klingons the PvP faction Cryptic did. Nor did I ever say they should be PvP only, What I did say is since cryptic told us Klingons were PvP oriented then thats what they needed to concentrate on, since that is what those who chose to be Klingons signed up for. Most of the Klingons who left 30 days after launch said it was PvP system in place is why (and thats when we had a decent population).
With the Dev time it took to create the 8 missions they should have been able to come up with a decent PvP system. Give us something that will last for years before you design something that can be done in hours (or all they will ever get done is trying to play catchup). And the funny part is it that it would benefit both factions not one or the other.
All I am asking for is Cryptic to stick to what they said then build up from there.
wants war too.
As to the otehr element the OP mentioned though, it is very important we get some more PvE content. Have you tried to level a Klingon recently? The various pvp zones are totally empty and bereft of enemies to fight. The process is arduously slow.
Worse still, there is no content to amuse yourself whilst you wait in the queue. Oh of course you can go and fight the federation spies or whatever, but the chances you are sitting on a respawn timer when your arena PvP comes up are very low. The whole thing is terrible for Klingons and involes staggering amounts of waiting around.
You would get XP for using the Open PvP sectors. Group up with other players and dont come out first if you are low level or stay well within the Fed Ball. XP will be gained like it was at launch and you will progress fairly quickly.
Functionally, PvE is only useful if it is fun and helps with the grind. We don't need a story told to us like Feds, we need a way to create a story for our character. I want Klingon opera's written by me about me, not some NPC person some guy in a Cryptic cubicle came up with.
No Klingon made BG before Season 1 with Deep Space Exploration
No Klingon made BG before Season 2 with a story arc mission.
I'd love to see good PvE content, but at the 8 per season rate of release it simply isn't a viable approach, and Cryptic needs a new approach. Giving us a planet where we can earn 20-25K XP at LCDR, CDR, and Captain rank for PvE and PvP missions related to the war with the Federation would solve the problem.
And for the record, I'd like to see Klingon war related mini-game content - like a strategy mini-game where I command a fleet in battle, or troops on a battlefield.
And let me lose if i suck! Winning should be hard, and accolades for such things not passed out easily.
Be it PvE or PvP or Both, I want to see things like
Planetary Invasions -- Space attacks that proceed into ground invasion. Destroy the defending ships and defenses and then attack the command and control areas on the ground.
Outpost Raids -- Raid missions to destroy or capture critical supplies or supply lines. Destroy listen posts, observation posts, supply depots.
Starbase Attacks -- Destroying or Capturing strategically valuable locales. Small team defends a SB against a larger team.
Large Fleet Confrontations -- Sprawling battle lines with many ships (maybe edge of map has ships trailing into the distance as back ground with your 15v15 being one part of the giant line?)
War room mini game (planning the war, maybe chess like game or risk like computer simulation to forecast the outcome of the war and your plans) Maybe a one time use buff due to good planning as a reward, like a ship device. "Computer! Execute [insert capt.] 17"
But everyone gets a participation ribbon... you CANNOT lose! Cryptic forbids it!!!
OR i quit
Well said.
It would need some changes to make it worth renewing my membership for:
1. LOS rules
2. Real-time battles with the numbers on each side being decided by how many people are actually there instead of waiting forever for 5v5.
3. While we are at it, having different ranges for different weapons modified by the skill of the crew.
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