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Ill preference this by saying Im not big on PvP and Ive heard about their short comings early on so I never bothered starting a Klingon character before.
At this point of STO Ive leveled every combination of Federation characters available and wanted to try something different to keep my interest in the game.
To my my suprise:
The Klingon Tricorders does not point toward their missions objectives, even though the game-mechanics is readily available.
I had to abandon many Exploration missions because I spent way too time aimlessly looking around.
They have no Research & Development and there are practically no Anomalies to collect, even if its just to mail them to their Federation counter parts.
There are only about 4 different ground & space exploration missions; couldnt some of the Federation Exploration missions simply be copied over to the Klingons?
Because of these huge imbalances and neglect it's very clear that STO is not a two faction MMO.
Are any of these and other Klingon issues addressed in Season 2, or should I just delete my Klingon character now?
The only thing that works very well on the Klingon side is the C-Store.
There are plenty of Klingon items to be purchased there. I just hope there are enough players around to buy them.
At this point of STO Ive leveled every combination of Federation characters available and wanted to try something different to keep my interest in the game.
To my my suprise:
The Klingon Tricorders does not point toward their missions objectives, even though the game-mechanics is readily available.
I had to abandon many Exploration missions because I spent way too time aimlessly looking around.
They have no Research & Development and there are practically no Anomalies to collect, even if its just to mail them to their Federation counter parts.
There are only about 4 different ground & space exploration missions; couldnt some of the Federation Exploration missions simply be copied over to the Klingons?
Because of these huge imbalances and neglect it's very clear that STO is not a two faction MMO.
Are any of these and other Klingon issues addressed in Season 2, or should I just delete my Klingon character now?
The only thing that works very well on the Klingon side is the C-Store.
There are plenty of Klingon items to be purchased there. I just hope there are enough players around to buy them.
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Imagine that...
Yes Klingons are unfinished.
Yes they are in because people clamored for them before launch.
Yes those same people are complaining because they are unfinished.
Yes this is partly because of production schedules and such.
Yes this is starting to be addressed now that resources are freeing up from other obligations.
Yes it will take time to get them to the same place the Federation are at.
I used to see these threads and say Oh my... things are getting bad ! .
I'm a bit de-sensitized nowadays....hell who am I kidding..... Very de-sensitized
nothing surprises me anymore with STO.
love that c-store...yup.
.:rolleyes:
there are some improvements coming but at the moment its still limited
some pve missions, weekly missions in august and new high end missions that will be available to both factions. dabo and ships interiors but no tricorder, no crafting, only one high end ship, some new uniforms, more ships due later
id just hang fire on deleting the characters until next week as that is when season 2 is due but its not going to restore the balance just improve it a bit.
im sure the stuff you want will come eventually just not in season 2
There's a lack of the kind of content we are used to on the Federation side, but being Klingon is about having a different style of gameplay experience I suppose, e.g. focusing on the PvP
Season 2 will add 8 new Klingon specific episodes and they also get to do the weekly Deferi episodes too, because those are factionless.
Without a research and development thing, they probably didn't see fit to add in anomalies for you to collect. Mailing them to your other selves is not exactly a good enough reason to put some in yet.
I'm mystified about the Tri-corders thing, but maybe they don't work because they want you to hunt like a Klingon lol.
Welcome to the awakening that STO is being run by a Small a developement team who haven't got the itme to broaden out any other faction than the Federation.
Full of content for a price.
Content developement time that should have been used expanding KDF content like ships.
Ok I have to ask, why do you consider c-store stuff content? I would classify content more as missions rather than shiny baubles. And shiny baubles are developed by the art team for the most part, which have some impact on the missions, but considering the work of like captnlogan, I think shinys take alot less time to fiddle with.
Just so you know, the layout of ground exploration missions is very predictable, and you can generally easily see where everything is by looking at the map. The objects are always in clearings and there's always a path between every clearing.
The fact that there are anomalies at all is actually a bug, I think. Only one kind of mission that was obviously copied directly from Federation side has them. Personally, I don't care about this. Memory Alpha is almost entirely useless. Hopefully whenever they make it worth using, they'll give Klingons a way to get the same kind of items.
You say that as if the Federation has tons of different kinds of exploration missions. Klingons lose ones that involve scanning but gain ones that involve blowing things up. Other than that they're more or less the same...
Yes, Klingons are lacking in content. Almost entirely, in fact, as the only PvE content they have are exploration missions, a sort of bizarre pseudo-DSE, and some STFs and fleet actions.
The KDF have far fewer ship choices and instead of adding them to the game they direct the resources to add more Starfleet ships to the C-sTore.
The same thing with new Races.
Because it consumed developer time...
... that should have been used to create missions and stuff like functioning scanners.
The Klingons are as technely advanced as the federation, there have been instances where they have used tricorders to find Federation ships and personnel.
Its just neglect on Cryptics part.
I agree with this. then Klingons presented in a later expansion. Would have gone a lot smoother.
but then again Cryptic has always made people go "Whaat ??" with their decisions and timing.
:rolleyes:
Well, I am sure even if asked the statistics on Fed vs Klingon players would never be released, but there is the chance that they are supporting the faction with the higher number of active players. please note this next sentence With that said, the downside to that is if there aren't that many Klingon players, it might be because of the lack of content available to them. I will concede quite easily that at least amoung forum dwellers the number of people who want something more out of the Klingons does seem to be rather sizable....and in Klingon fashion....vocal. Sadly I can not honestly speak for what percentage of the player base this actually encompasses. I do believe though that no matter what Cryptic is at least aware there are active factions within the game desiring a redress of the current state of affairs.
Because they bend over for all the whiners far too often.
~D
I have felt often over the last few months that if Cryptic wasn't trying to please as many people as it could some of the issues wouldn't be as....volatile as they have apparently become.
I have no problem being able to play a Klingon as a PvE character. Frankly I would prefer it because PvP players, in general, have no patience for people who don't regularly PvP and can be rather...vulgar about it.
As I recall the Klingons became primarily PvP when production schedules became such that it was completely impossible to have a fully functioning setup in place for the Race at launch. This is a flaw I seriously hope is rectified before we see the launch of another faction in the game. Barring that perhaps Klingons will always remain that way and the next faction will be more PvE and thats how it will be.
Federation have, to the best of my memory: Space Confrontation, Space Defend Base, Space Kill Enemies, Space Scan Ships, Space Scan Anomalies, Ground Planet Scan Stuff, Ground Planet Kill Stuff, Ground Base Scan Stuff, Ground Base Kill Stuff.
Klingons have: Space Confrontation (copied straight from Fed version, these have anomalies), Space Defend Base, Space Kill Enemies, Space Blow Up Ships, Space Blow Up Bases, Ground Planet Blow Up Stuff, Ground Planet Kill Stuff, Ground Base Blow Up Stuff, Ground Base Kill Stuff.
There's a few minor variations here, like the scan/blow up ships might have enemies or the ground kill stuff might have things to scan/blow up, but I think that's all the actual types of missions.
I have played a KDF character all the way to BG5 doing nothing but exploration missions, when 1/2 to 2/3rds of them didn't even give skill points on completion in the later ranks because you never actually got the mission on entering the system/base. I don't know if that's fixed or not yet. I'm not saying Klingons have it good, but I'm not going to agree with things that aren't true and only go, "Ha ha! C-Store!"
There are no KDF playable races available other than Joined Trill.
There are no extra ships available.
There are no ship skins available.
There are no new uniforms available.
The Klingons can buy a targ, a borg, and some bridge packs.
The C-Store is dominated by federation merch.
I do remember people asking for Klingons, but as I recall it was because closed beta was short and Cryptic didn't launch Klingons until very late. So it was in the context of, "If Cryptic's gonna launch with Klingons, shouldn't we be testing them by now?"
I don't recall seeing an announcement that Cryptic was planning to launch without Klingons, nor do I recall any indication that Cryptic included Klingons just to placate the fans. I'm open to evidence to the contrary, however...
Trivial point, I know, but there seems to be some historical interpretations lately that don't jive with my memories at all, and it's a little disconcerting...
So I can at least point out that this was a known point many moons ago, still going to dig when I can for an announcement,
people pushed for klinks to be added to the game at launch. there was a dev interview (several) that expressed cryptics desire to NOT include the klinks at launch cause they were not complete and offered very little but the possibility of pvp only. people still cried anyway. cryptic put them in...and now look. cryptic listened to the community, put them in, even with a disclaimer, and you still get nothing but whines and cries of injustice about the faction.
you call it bend over, i call it a business move and listening to the player base.
there is no way, unfortunaate as it is, that cryptic can win on this front anymore. they explained many times about the faction being pvp centric and limited in other activities as compared to the federation side. they are adding content since the player base cried and whined about it, but i would venture the vast majority of the sunscribers are federation players only as it is.
besides, Star Trek was focused around the Federation and not the KDF or other Factions.
See this is what I remember but I will be darned if I have had luck finding a shred of this on the nets right now....its a conspiracy a Klingon conspiracy!
"they are in because people clamored for them before launch."
Makes it sound like those "people" are to blame for the current state of the Klingon faction, and it runs exactly counter to what I recall. In fact, some Klingon fans suggested holding off on the faction until Cryptic had time to flesh them out, and releasing it as a separate expansion.
Again, minor point, but for some reason it bugs me to see this particular assertion coming from several posters.