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edited May 2010 in Klingon Discussion
To tell you the truth I am disapointed in the klingon gameplay cause apart from the "infected" story line there is nothing more in story wise it's just space ship battles and that is quite boring to me is there any plans to start a klingon story line?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    If you check out the Enginnering reports, the one from 4/20 to be exact, there is mention of Klingon Episodes coming in July with season 2.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    No, they can't take Utopia Planetia! :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    No, they can't take Utopia Planetia! :eek:

    Why not?

    You take it with your Klingon character and take it back with your fed character after that. :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    I would officially like to say "Awesome!" <^_^> This sounds like exactly the kind of missions Kilngons ought to be doing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    What? :confused: That sounds like you are adding cool Klingon Content. Did I unwilling enter a parallel Dimension? :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    Kind of strange that Klingons can visit this iconic Fed location, while the Feds cant. Whats next, Starfleet Academy? :p

    But it still sounds like a great mission :o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    I and drooling over this....is it July yet?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kind of strange that Klingons can visit this iconic Fed location, while the Feds cant. Whats next, Starfleet Academy? :p

    But it still sounds like a great mission :o

    Grand Nagus, your are missing an obvious point. It's a map the Klingons can visit, so can the Federation. It's a map of the Utopia Planitia Ship Yards.in orbit above (HINT)--->>> MARS <<<--- (HINT).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    ALL HOPE IS NOT LOST ...im going to return these plane tickets now nevermind what they were for lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    fuzun wrote: »
    Grand Nagus, your are missing an obvious point. It's a map the Klingons can visit, so can the Federation. It's a map of the Utopia Planitia Ship Yards.in orbit above (HINT)--->>> MARS <<<--- (HINT).

    That was the first thing I thought of actually, I'm really exited about this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    What? :confused: That sounds like you are adding cool Klingon Content. Did I unwilling enter a parallel Dimension? :)
    I don't know about parallel dimensions, but they are always favoring the Klingons with awesome new content and the Federation sits on the sideline. Our faction is dying day by day, as we are the only PVE faction in the enitre game and are not allowed to have PvP because "it doesn't fit Gene Roddenbery's optimistic vision of the future".





    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I don't know about parallel dimensions, but they are always favoring the Klingons with awesome new content and the Federation sits on the sideline. Our faction is dying day by day, as we are the only PVE faction in the enitre game and are not allowed to have PvP because "it doesn't fit Gene Roddenbery's optimistic vision of the future".





    :D

    Actually it doesnt fit in that Vision.
    But this Vision died peacefully with the last Enterprise-Episode and were corpse-violatet by Abrahams, and STO wich is almost completly about fighting doesnt fit into this vision in any way.

    And actually I missunderstood this dev-post, it came on the same day the season 1.1 patch came and i thought theyd add that mission on THAT DAY, actually it was just another of a lot of promises.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yay! Klingon content! Woohoo! :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Three episodic missions - whoop de fraking do - that will take what, about 5 hours of game time at most?

    What we need is Klingon faction unique PvP. Something that really makes the "PvP faction" a PvP faction, something the Fedrats don't EVER get to do. Something players will spend days and weeks enjoying, instead of a few hours. Something cool, meaningful, exciting, even rewarding. Preferably several somethings.


    Some suggestions:
    - 40 on 40 (maximum number not a requirement to get started) to the last Klingon cage match with NPC "monster" enforces to ensure players do not doddle.

    - 1 on 1 ground and space matches with consentual betting.

    - tournaments that can be run by individuals or fleets.

    - capture the flag type 20 vs 20 team war games (time limited), multiple instances as needed, starting every 5-10 minutes, 24/7/365.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    STObee wrote:
    Three episodic missions - whoop de fraking do - that will take what, about 5 hours of game time at most?

    Right, but a lot of people already said: Story missions, as good as they are, are over soon. They should focus on good repeatable content in any way.
    My impression is that not many Klingon players want story missions.
    STObee wrote:
    What we need is Klingon faction unique PvP. Something that really makes the "PvP faction" a PvP faction, something the Fedrats don't EVER get to do. Something players will spend days and weeks enjoying, instead of a few hours. Something cool, meaningful, exciting, even rewarding. Preferably several somethings.

    The problem of unique PvP for Klingons is see is: If it is unique, who should we fight? Nobody likes KvK!!!!! And if it is unique for Klingons there are no feds. So whats the purpose of unique pvp? Or did I missunderstand that?

    STObee wrote:
    Some suggestions:
    - 40 on 40 (maximum number not a requirement to get started) to the last Klingon cage match with NPC "monster" enforces to ensure players do not doddle.

    For me even the big C&H are to big, i just Q for the small. Why? Because feds go as Fedball anyway, a 40 ship fedball just onehits you faster in you get into it.
    And try to find 40 Klingons online at the same time.... how should we get 40 in a game?
    STObee wrote:
    - 1 on 1 ground and space matches with consentual betting.

    Well they keep asking for it, but if you dont like the feds wining about OP Klingons now, look what will happen then.
    In a teamplay the Cloak is a slight advantage, in 1vs 1 it actually IS op, espacially Battlecloak. And if they take away the Claok for that the Feds will be OP.
    1 vs 1 cant be banaced in any way in sto.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    STObee wrote:
    Three episodic missions - whoop de fraking do - that will take what, about 5 hours of game time at most?.

    What gave you the impression that it would be only 3 episodic missions? I kinda expect it to be content from Lt5. to RA 5. (At least together with the faction-neutral missions.) Of course, I might be overly optimistic. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.


    well thats nice. to bad you focus all that time pumping out useless TRIBBLE on the C-store instead of fixing only important things...

    imagine the good things you could have done with all those hundreds of hours you spent trying to make us waste even more money on you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Thorgald wrote: »
    well thats nice. to bad you focus all that time pumping out useless TRIBBLE on the C-store instead of fixing only important things...

    imagine the good things you could have done with all those hundreds of hours you spent trying to make us waste even more money on you.

    You do realize that they are working on both aspects at the same time right?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You do realize that they are working on both aspects at the same time right?

    sure, but obviously not as fast as they could be.

    everything that isn't addressing important issues is a waste of time. and at the moment that is everything they add to the C-store.

    adding useless TRIBBLE to the C-store when an entire faction lacks such a huge part of playability is a big middle finger in our faces.

    they don't seem care a whole lot about klingon pve gameplay, if they did they would actually show some interest in adding stuff to it, not just copy and paste federation fleet action and exploration maps.


    so far all i've seen is stuff added to federation side, yes they need attention to but their "fix one thing first" approach isn't working in a situation like this. not when half the game is nonexistent.

    fire the ppl working with the C-store items and hire more ppl to work on the actual game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    Sounds good. I don't want or need a huge KDF storyline, but some would be nice. Like why break the Khitomer Accord and start a war with The Feds when the Romulan Star Empire has been devestated (apart from the fact the Romulans aint in it yet and it gives PvP. That's game mechanics, not a story). As much as the Klingons dislike Starfleet, their attitude toward Romulans makes the relationship with the Federation seem quite amicable in comparison. That, however, is possibly something to be explored in the future as the Timeline of the game and possibility (probability?) of more factions gives the Devs huge scope. Anyway, bring on Mars.


    "If you whine long enough, someone will eventually hear you. If you keep whining after you're heard, someone will eventually shoot you."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If Cryptic stopped working on anything that is not directly related to Klingons and devoted ALL their resources to fixing Klingons it might only take 12-18 months for them even things up.

    Instead they are providing 3 to 5 times the new content for Federation as they are Klingons. Check the engineering reports if you doubt this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    My impression is that not many Klingon players want story missions.

    unfortunately, from the critic complaints and such, your impression, which was roughly similar to mine, is sorely mistaken. from the description where the KDF spends more time "fighting against the federation as well as against other houses" one could be lead to believe that theirs will be a very pvp (or at least very combat) centered faction. developers could have tied to that theme even more by creating specific pvp gametypes that can only be accessible through kvk, as well as increasing gametypes available in fvk, while fvf gameplay would simply be the cap and hold and arena gametypes. but thats not what the players wanted. they wanted story missions, episodic missions, and so such was given.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    as a matter of fact - we just had the kick-off for the 3rd Klingon specific episode today - and part of the mission required you to launch a sneak attack on the Utopia Plentia shipyards above Mars.

    So yes - Klingon specific episodes starting in Season 2 will introduce a Klingon Faction specific story arc to the game.

    Woohoo,... does the happy dance :D

    and may I say ABOUT TIME!

    I loves my klingon, but clusters are DULLSVILLE at present.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Well if they focused all there effort on filling out the Klingon contect then they would have designers sitting around waiting for the programmers to get everything ready. Which would be a wast of time and resources, and would still take the same amount of time as it is taking now.

    Instead they have their designers working on little additions for us to have to tide us over until the major stuff its able to come out.

    Basically the designers are giving us appetizers while the programmers get the main course cooked.

    Try watching the STOked interview with Craig Zinkievich here
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Two things:

    First, Theres a war on...During the Dominion War there was a lot of fighting going on in the DS9 episodes. Obviously the Federation has a powerful military. I dont get people saying all this fighting isnt Star Trek! Yes, there should be missions resolved through diplomacy or exploraiton (AND THERE ARE) but theres a war on and Starfleet Command isnt gonna send a Galaxy Class cruiser off to the middle of nowhere to serve tea and crumpets to some back water planet that wants to join the Federation, or map a Nebula (unles the nebula potentially holds a wormhole that could end the war months or years ahead of time by allowing the new Galaxy X ship to sneak cloaked to quonos and strike a deciver blow against the High Council!!)

    Second, the Klingon factions needs PVE in order to be viable. Here is why. If the Faction is PVP only like some people seem to want, then that means the casual players wont play it, that means that the bulk of Klingon's will die in their beds at LT 10 or less as their owners realize what a horrible grind it is to get to RA5.

    Now if those same players can do story and pve missions to get to RA5, and then as they are leveling get some quests that reward going in for the occasional PVP match, then there will be more PVP at all levels as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Th0rh4mm3r wrote:
    Two things:

    First, Theres a war on...During the Dominion War there was a lot of fighting going on in the DS9 episodes. Obviously the Federation has a powerful military. I dont get people saying all this fighting isnt Star Trek! Yes, there should be missions resolved through diplomacy or exploraiton (AND THERE ARE) but theres a war on and Starfleet Command isnt gonna send a Galaxy Class cruiser off to the middle of nowhere to serve tea and crumpets to some back water planet that wants to join the Federation, or map a Nebula (unles the nebula potentially holds a wormhole that could end the war months or years ahead of time by allowing the new Galaxy X ship to sneak cloaked to quonos and strike a deciver blow against the High Council!!)

    Second, the Klingon factions needs PVE in order to be viable. Here is why. If the Faction is PVP only like some people seem to want, then that means the casual players wont play it, that means that the bulk of Klingon's will die in their beds at LT 10 or less as their owners realize what a horrible grind it is to get to RA5.

    Now if those same players can do story and pve missions to get to RA5, and then as they are leveling get some quests that reward going in for the occasional PVP match, then there will be more PVP at all levels as well.

    Exactly. Basically the Feds need a bit more Diplomacy (coming in S2 with the diplomatic corp thing I hope) and the KDF needs storyline missions and more costume options + additional space sectors (also soming in S2 patch I hope).

    Only thing I really am worried about is that the damage is already done and it may be too late. I hope that a lot of ppl will come back to give S2 patch a look and if all is according to what Cryptic claims, then the game should be saved and we can all enjoy a more or less balanced faction system. Altho KDF still doesn't seem to get any crafting atm.
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