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I got to ask my fellow Klingon players if its not time for us to call the cryptic team on this total disrespect of the Klingon faction. I too had hopes for the 45 day patch that it would finally bring Klingons something good and for the developers to keep their word to give us more content.
In the "Whats Next" adress there are certain promises made:
Klingon Fleet Actions - Form up with your closest friends and do battle in large engagements.
Pretty much done with the raid episode. Still its only a mission but its a start.
A New Klingon Ship - You asked for it, we made it: A Tier 2 Klingon Battle Cruiser.
Yeah, thats coming in the 45 day patch.
Klingon Star Clusters - Seek out new life and civilizations ... and subjugate them! Additional PvE content for the Klingon faction.
MYSTERIOUSLY this has been forgotten, the very thing that Klingon has wanted, more PvE and more content...but its not even mentioned......
More IP Locations - Check out Rura Penthe and our whole solar system, from Mercury to Pluto.
Same thing here, not even mentioning of that, strange too...
So my question is this. does Cryptic really want to loose the playerbase that plays Klingon or do they have a beancounter sitting around and calculating that the Klingons playerbase tired of not having anything to do will roll a federation class character...?
In that case id call upon every Klingon player or who loves Klingons to rise up, send email to cryptic and tell them that your cancelling your subscription and that unless they fix Klingons they will loose you as a paying customer. If enough players did that then Cryptic would get their rear from the wagon and start shipping out Klingon stuff faster than you can say qaplah'
Question is, when is enough...? For me I was contemplating a lifetimetime membership, but really unsure since if its going to be Star Trek Federation Online I am not signing up for that...no way.
Can you dig what im saying? Holla!!
In the "Whats Next" adress there are certain promises made:
Klingon Fleet Actions - Form up with your closest friends and do battle in large engagements.
Pretty much done with the raid episode. Still its only a mission but its a start.
A New Klingon Ship - You asked for it, we made it: A Tier 2 Klingon Battle Cruiser.
Yeah, thats coming in the 45 day patch.
Klingon Star Clusters - Seek out new life and civilizations ... and subjugate them! Additional PvE content for the Klingon faction.
MYSTERIOUSLY this has been forgotten, the very thing that Klingon has wanted, more PvE and more content...but its not even mentioned......
More IP Locations - Check out Rura Penthe and our whole solar system, from Mercury to Pluto.
Same thing here, not even mentioning of that, strange too...
So my question is this. does Cryptic really want to loose the playerbase that plays Klingon or do they have a beancounter sitting around and calculating that the Klingons playerbase tired of not having anything to do will roll a federation class character...?
In that case id call upon every Klingon player or who loves Klingons to rise up, send email to cryptic and tell them that your cancelling your subscription and that unless they fix Klingons they will loose you as a paying customer. If enough players did that then Cryptic would get their rear from the wagon and start shipping out Klingon stuff faster than you can say qaplah'
Question is, when is enough...? For me I was contemplating a lifetimetime membership, but really unsure since if its going to be Star Trek Federation Online I am not signing up for that...no way.
Can you dig what im saying? Holla!!
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Its unheard of, and feels way to much like this game should have been in development another 6-12 months so they had at least 2 factions working equally...or relatively equally..
Soon you will see threads about "red headed stepchildred" or something like that.
I'll give it a try. What's their e-mail address? I've looked and can't find one.
No content, no Klingons!
Give us equal content or give us reduced prices to match our reduced content.
Start COMMUNICATING with your customers!!! Get on the forums and IRC.
Of course there also needs to be some kind of arena style ladder introduced. I would imagine it to be the main focus of most Klink players.
If you look at the time for those things its set back to more than 3 weeks. They have 3 levels of importance
In Testing = about 2 weeks away
Under Investigation = ETA may vary but have a greater importance than
In Development = which is more than 3 weeks away.
Sure I know it is in development, there is no doubt, perhaps its one guy sitting in a small qube somewhere in cryptic offices doing that while they got a huge team doing federation stuff and just spitting them out. Lets put the federation stuff to the side for a moment and concentrate efforts into that other ******* child called Klingon faction and perhaps then we would see some real stuff happening.
Therefore, there is no need to test anything. Test what? Copy-pasted 3 fed explorations clusters or fed t2 cruiser with new skin? Those are already working more or less properly on fed side.
Don't think they plan to spend any time on this faction anyway. It is obvious they see no point in it, other then to copy-paste stuff from feds.
There is another thing Warhammer had. A huge playerbase at launch, that dwindled away in under a year to a shadow of it's former self, due to customers leaving over pvp imbalance, bugs, lack of content, etc.
The term is flash in the pan.
And They had time to develop the Pakleds.. the Pakleds? Seriously.. A Race with a grand total 3-4 episodes over 2 franchise series. Tat's what bothers us. Not working on key issues of a faction, but doing fluff no one asked for.
Hey your house is burning, your dog ran off, your daughters pregnant.. did you cut your hair?
Age of Conan is another great example of wasted potential. The game was supposed to garner alot of PvP following due to the more "active" style combat presented.
I was there when the game came out. The bugs, blatantly missing content, total lack of polish outside the beginning area / Tortage, imbalances, etc. were rampant. The game also had a HUGE following at the beginning, but once the honeymoon of Tortage went away, everyone saw AoC for what it really was. Bug infested, imbalanced, nowhere near being complete. Even Sieges, the centerpiece of PvP presentation, didn't even work, and it still has alot of problems from what I hear. People left in droves and the game has never recovered. I hear the devs have put tremendous amount of work in the game, but nobody is around to enjoy it anymore.
Many games have a chance to draw their audience. a TRIBBLE start, and shaky launch. Get a bad reputation, and people start bailing... Many games never recover.
Warhammer, AoC, Vanguard, Aion.. The list goes on an on.
SWG kinda proved 5 years ago that a games IP will not keep a fanbase when the gameplay suffers.
Sadly now with the console audience many MMO's have gathered, it's very ADD. Get a game, try it out, move on if it's not that great.
STO has it's fair share of issues, and a community desperately wanting things to improve so we can play a game in a universe we love..
Please Cryptic, don't make us realize our 15.00 a month is better spent elsewhere.
Alot of new Sci-Fi mmo's are comming. Gameplay and content is key.. not Pakleds, and false promises.
But, in STO, the Klingons were not suppose to be included at launch.
It was included because, supposedly, this one developer did his best to get at least the bear minumum in.
The fleshed out stuff was coming.
So, you guys really think that Cryptic is just going to drop the klingons from anymore development and bring in other factions, right?
This is what you guys think? Really?
Mind you, Cryptic hasn't told us anything concrete, but that doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. That would be a logical falacy.
This stuff has been on Tribble for over a week now.
They're not going to just drop the Klingons outright. No. I believe they're just going to do very, very little for the faction. You can tell who the devs listen to. You can tell where all the development attention is still going to (and it is NOT the Klingons). Every patch note, every interview, every preview, is bringing something new to the Federation. And the KDF is getting last month's scraps.
For the Klingons, who have such a pitifully small population in the game, to NOT garner all the attention until it is on par with the Federation, is ridiculous. The stuff on Tribble for the KDF should have been there at LAUNCH. The additions are all old scraps, while the Federation continues to get more and more.
The devs seem to forget that this is a multi-faction game, which is 2 at the moment, and supposedly have aspirations to bring in a 3rd down the road, which everyone thinks will be the Romulans. How do you think the Romulans will turn out if the Klingons are not on par with content / pvp / just THINGS TO DO, compared to the Federation? If the Klingons are still bare bones, do you honestly think the Romulans will be better off when they are introduced?
I don't understand you.
Why did it have to be there at launch?
I could say "ROMULANS WITH ALL THEIR CONTENT SHOULD BE THERE AT LAUNCH".
What makes it so?
I'd be happy to see Klingons get HALF what the Feds get. But look at the 45-day update, not close to half. Feds getting off-duty clothes, Klingons had what, 1/5 of Fed clothing options?
What I'd like to see is Klingons getting the lions share of development and content until they are on a par with Federation. That's probably expecting too much, and I'd settle for "observably more" attention.
Maybe there are reasons why the Feds got three new playable species and Klingons got didly. Maybe Cryptic desperatly needs the income from C-store. Maybe those three species were already done at launch and scheduled for release at 45-days as padding to make Cryptic look like they've been working hard on new material.
But mostly I don't know what is behind Cryptic's tone deafness on Klingon concerns.
On PvP - make a sector, allow anyone in it (all tiers in the same area), let them PvP anyone from the other faction. Set up a mecahnism so that no more than twice as many players from one faction than the other enter. Put up a message: WARNING - THIS IS A PvP AREA. YOU MAY BE KILLED. IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO ENTER OR STAY OUT. NO WHINING!!!
Then make some dueling arenas
Only rewards besides wagers are from the existing "kill X number of enemy captains" or "die Y number of times" missions. Those and bragging rights.
Fleets should be able to use these to stage competitions within Fleets and with other Fleets.
Because the previews before STO came out touted the Klingons around, blowing Feds up and all that nice stuff.
When the game went live, the Klingons WERE there, but compared to the Federation experience, was woefully inadequate.
When someone promotes aspects of a product to entice people to try / buy said product, and a customer buys it for that promoted feature and finds out it's terribly inadequate, what are they supposed to think?
Simply put: Cryptic promoted the Klingons BEFORE going Live. When the game shipped and went live, the Klingons were barely qualified to even be called a "playable" faction, especially compared to the Federation.
If Cryptic can't even be bothered to finish a faction they started working on before going Live, what makes you think the Romulans, a faction to be added later, will fare even better?
The Klingons will continue to get little to no attention from the devs for the very same reason why **even the Gold Sellers don't pay any attention to the KDF**... Because there's nobody left in the KDF faction. You can find more Gold Seller spam in the most remote Federation sector blocks than in the Klingons' home sector block of Qo'Nos. It's not worth the effort even in the Gold Sellers' greedy eyes and mindset. If money-grubbing people won't pay attention to the KDF, why would Cryptic bother to put considerable resources in the KDF?
So by design were a higher risk for a lower reward, thus we are more safe from their spam.
no, according to these guys it is because gold spammers knowthat Cryptic s0x0rs
The game speaks volumes (adversely, I might add) on that already.
Also the Gold farmers do need to unlock Klingon through gsmeplay hence the typically free spamm in Qo'Nos. For that alone thank you Cryptic.
As to the 45 day patch content comming with Klingon stuff.. Hrmm..
Fleet Actions: Crystal Ent... Many Fed players I have spoke with say this is the most frustrating mission the Fed's have.. Always some Ya-hoo flying about killing shards.. Can't wait.
New PvP ground map, that no Fed's enter for us to test..
The K'Tanco, Oh yeah a T2 ship.. Whoo hoo.. When's the last time you took a T2 ship out for a spin? Granted we need a T2 cruiser option, and thankfully a non BoP design.. Granted should have been included from the get go.. but hey it missed it's debut in ST:ENT "unexpected" so it's following cannon :cool:
As to Romulans.. Monsterplay with green lighting.. can't wait. OK Ok.. maybe they'll get the fleet Action CE as well..
I don't understand that after a month.. one single month.. people are so upset?
it's because we've seen the list of changes in the 45-day patch, and can now see what Cryptic has been working on. there's a long list of new features added to the fed side, while basic bugs on the klingon side (like broken pvp vendors) still remain unfixed.
and let's not forget the queue problems that have plagued both sides, but which affect klingons so much more because we depend on pvp queues for so much of our leveling. apparently the queue problems have only been recognized as a problem in the last few days: http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=138871
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Because people are now paying for the game.
Because people have a sense of entitlement.
Because people like to complain.
Because the game wasn't what they expected it to be.
Because people are bored.
Because people don't see Cryptic doing what they want with the game.
People pick all kinds of reason to complain, really.
I'm a lifer who would love to see the game develop and grow into something that will last me long enough to get my money's worth. Whatever content they give to us, Fed or Klingon, and do my best to enjoy it. If it gets to the point that it's no longer is enjoyable, I'll leave and come back if I see or hear of any improvement. It's not that complicated.
I suppose I'm just more patient than others. To me, the price of my subscription entitles me to play what I'm given, or leave. I don't feel mislead, forgotten, betrayed. I feel like I'll get it in time, or I wouldn't be here.
QFT.
So the Klingons are getting a bit of an update? Okay. But the Feds are getting regular, larger updates.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2395213#post2395213
I've cancelled my subscription. maybe this summer I"ll reactivate. I might reactivate even earlier if I see any indication of significant pvp improvements being implemented before then.
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These.
If I can't find something to enjoy in the game, I leave. I don't feel entitled to new content, though I probably wouldn't play MMOs if we didn't get that new content. I am also patient enough to wait for things to actually happen, not complain my throat bloody after only a month.
A month goes by in the blink of an eye, it is hardly anything to notice from my perspective. I imagine it is much the same for those developers, time just flies by and before you know it, the time has all sped by.
They are working on stuff, friends, it will just take more time to get it to us. Why not try and enjoy that time in any way you can
I rate the "worth" of a Klingon only subscrition to be no more than $5/month in comparison to a $15/month Fed subscription. In reality Runescape charges $5/month but delivers far more content than a STO Federation player gets (except for the picture quality).
I suppose this could work. Let the player opt out of ever making a character of a different faction and reduce their fee. You couldn't simply tie it the level of klingon content though. You would need to ensure that the people choosing this option would never get access to the full game.