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Why am I Violating Romulan Space?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Feature Episodes, Events and PvE Content
So the other day, I was on a patrol mission and encountered a Romulan task force. The commander said, "You are trespassing in Romulan space. Prepare to die!"

The funny thing is, I then checked my galaxy map and he was right - I WAS trespassing in Romulan space! The system I was assigned to patrol was clearly on their side of the Neutral Zone.

Why does Starfleet give me missions to "patrol" territory inside the Romulan Star Empire?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Because the Romulan Government has ceased to exist in any form recognized by the federation (think Somalia)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Because it was just sitting there, asking to be violated.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This drives me nuts.
    I'll be patrolling inside a Romulan sector and get some prompt from my Bridge Officer,
    "Sir, our outpost is under attack by Romulans, we must defend them!"

    and I'm all like,

    "We're in ROULAN SPACE, why the hell do we have outposts in ROMULAN SPACE!?"

    I mean... with all the effort we go to to avoid "provoking a confrontation" with Romulans, you'd think we'd maybe, I don't know, STOP IGNORING THE TREATIES WE SIGNED and STAY THE HELL OUT OF THEIR SPACE!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Because if we didn't violate Romulan space, we might as well not have Romulans in the game. Kind of hard to fight someone if you...you know...won't fight them.

    STO would be great if all we did was patrol our own space, not fight anyone, and sit in our starbases.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Because the Klingons are right -- The Federation is under the control of Undine infiltrators. They're giving us all sorts of screwy orders instead of doing what The Federation would normally do -- send in Picard to negotiate a peace treaty.

    I hope the storyline advances sooner rather than later, and the conflict with the Klingons and the revenge-obsessed Sela gives way to a mutual stand against our common enemies.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    yukonsam wrote: »
    Because the Klingons are right -- The Federation is under the control of Undine infiltrators. They're giving us all sorts of screwy orders instead of doing what The Federation would normally do -- send in Picard to negotiate a peace treaty.

    Just wait for the raid-isodes - I got 100k EC that says Admiral Prestor is secretly an Undine, and Ambassador Picard is "missing" on some silly little planet surrounded by level 60 elites...

    What?


    On a serious note though - if the Undine infiltration is fleshed out, could be a neat way to turn a squeaky clean faction into the blurred right / wrong that makes for a compelling story. Sure, it's kinda the Founders all over again, but you have to go start somewhere.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I wanna join section 31!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Gaglug wrote: »
    Because it was just sitting there, asking to be violated.
    That thought process is gonna get you in trouble :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    What an opportunity to throw some RvR in... along with another faction, of course.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The Romulan government is split into several smaller governments. There's Selas which is probably the closest to the old government however Starfleet doesn't like her government so it chooses to instead recognize governments that are more Federation friendly.
    You continually help Romulans who are Federation friendly. You respect their worlds.

    Basically it's the Federation taking advantage of the damage and trying to support only the Romulans who are friendly. It's a bit more of an extreme view that Starfleet is taking either as a result of the Dominion War or Undine involvement or something else.

    The Federation sees the chance to mold Romulan space their way. Unlike in the past where they stayed out of the stuff of others they're going in knee deep.

    I might buy it being an effect of the Dominion War. Now many in the Federation might view the older ways as ineffective.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thats a good way to look at it
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Actually, you know what would be awesome, if the Federation was under control of the Undine, Cryptic could do SO many things, you know, you have found out and your trying to rally support between different people, like in that one episode of TNG where Starfleet was being infiltrated by those parasitic worm things. It would be awesome.

    And when the Romulans become a faction, it could be that Sela's government has taken over all the others, and they are taking revenge on both the Federation, and Klingons, which would make it a 3 way stand between the Klingons, Federation, and Romulans, with maybe one part of a sector that has 3 way open PVP, resource battles, etc. That, would be just, AWESOME for PVP and storytelling.

    Also, the Dominion could take advantage of this situation, and try to take over the Federation, Cardassians, etc, just like in the Dominion War. Overall, that would have some amazing PVP qualities, along with storytelling, and many other things.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    USS Parallax wrote:
    The Romulan government is split into several smaller governments. There's Selas which is probably the closest to the old government however Starfleet doesn't like her government so it chooses to instead recognize governments that are more Federation friendly.
    You continually help Romulans who are Federation friendly. You respect their worlds.

    Basically it's the Federation taking advantage of the damage and trying to support only the Romulans who are friendly. It's a bit more of an extreme view that Starfleet is taking either as a result of the Dominion War or Undine involvement or something else.

    The Federation sees the chance to mold Romulan space their way. Unlike in the past where they stayed out of the stuff of others they're going in knee deep.

    I might buy it being an effect of the Dominion War. Now many in the Federation might view the older ways as ineffective.

    I really hope that's not the reason.

    The source of Star Trek's lasting appeal has always been its uniquely utopian vision of the future. The United Federation of Planets is the most remarkable civilization ever to have existed. It would be a terrible disappointment and constitute an abandonment of the core concepts of the franchise if Cryptic took the line you're advocating here and had the Federation start behaving like just another imperialist power. If you take away the idealism of the Federation, what are you left with in Star Trek? Absolutely nothing.

    The Federation ought to respect its treaties, and these missions should be fixed so that you're no longer asked to "patrol" star systems that do not belong to it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    frellthat wrote: »
    I really hope that's not the reason.

    The source of Star Trek's lasting appeal has always been its uniquely utopian vision of the future. The United Federation of Planets is the most remarkable civilization ever to have existed. It would be a terrible disappointment and constitute an abandonment of the core concepts of the franchise if Cryptic took the line you're advocating here and had the Federation start behaving like just another imperialist power. If you take away the idealism of the Federation, what are you left with in Star Trek? Absolutely nothing.

    The Federation ought to respect its treaties, and these missions should be fixed so that you're no longer asked to "patrol" star systems that do not belong to it.

    As much as I love my Clausewitz politics, this is entirely true -- they have no place in Star Trek. The Federation should always be the good guys, its up to the paranoia of the other Empires to misunderstand them. If you watch the movies, the Klingons are always imagining the Federation is up to no good -- but they never are. Its always *their* paranoia.

    The Federation is one of the few "empires" that is open to everyone willing to accept and participate in their vision. The other empires are far more closed, have more narrow selfish vision...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm just waiting to see how the Iconian and Undine story lines play out. I'm guessing that at some point, Iconian, Undine and Borg lines will intersect to either make our heads explode or cause flaming nerd rage topics that officially disavow STO as ever being considered canon.
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