Where's the promised Fed Klingon arc update?

novapolaris

It's been a while since the Year of the Klingon ended. I remember someone on staff made the statement that they'd fix up and put back the rest of the Klingon War arc on the Fed side after/at the end of the Year of the Klingon. I know missions take time to make (especially at the glacial rate they're made now) but I'm getting anxious about them getting to it, despite making a business promise by saying they'd get to it, like they said they'd make a T6 of every neglected ship (which IS being shown to be followed through on). Does anyone have a record of that statement?

davefenestrator

Note that the year 2411 is also "after" the year of the Klingon so they have centuries left to make a vague statement like that come true.

I can't recall them promising any time frame earlier than sometime in the future but perhaps someone can find a more specific promise.

novapolaris

davefenestrator wrote: »

Note that the year 2411 is also "after" the year of the Klingon so they have centuries left to make a vague statement like that come true.

I can't recall them promising any time frame earlier than sometime in the future but perhaps someone can find a more specific promise.

That's something I've been worried about. It doesn't have a timeframe other than "after". But I'd still think they'd have to hold to it if they did make the statement they'd "do it", or it'd mean trouble. I mean, that's why most game companies try to avoid making statements that could be *construed* as that, like the plague.

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davefenestrator

keepcalmchiveon wrote: »

westmetals wrote: »

keepcalmchiveon wrote: »

theoryfive wrote: »

davefenestrator wrote: »

Note that the year 2411 is also "after" the year of the Klingon so they have centuries left to make a vague statement like that come true.

I can't recall them promising any time frame earlier than sometime in the future but perhaps someone can find a more specific promise.

That's something I've been worried about. It doesn't have a timeframe other than "after". But I'd still think they'd have to hold to it if they did make the statement they'd "do it", or it'd mean trouble. I mean, that's why most game companies try to avoid making statements that could be *construed* as that, like the plague.

id wager we will all be flying in space in a "real" ship before. ok sarcasm off...

look at all the other removals and promises of upgrading them and bringing them back...now look at how well that went.

Such as..... what?

These missions are basically the only thing that has ever been removed from the game with the stated intention of coming back.

its been so long, but all i recall is the series of runs with the gate stone...or guardian...and if that is the run the OP is talking about, then i stand semi-corrected, but i thought there were others aside from that run that have been removed and not to be seen again. i could be incorrect. as stated, its been so long i cant recall what was removed and what was said to be coming back after a revamp. my bad.

It does get confusing since some really old episodes were just removed forever (like the KDF tribble hunt I think), some were moved to the "other episodes" bin outside of the main arcs, many have already been refreshed (the KDF level up episodes for example), and then the B'Vat - Miral Paris arc was removed with the promise that they would be returned to us ... someday. Hopefully before the time the game shuts down.

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novapolaris

Yeah, I was referring to the first mission arc you get after the tutorial on the Fed side. The one with B'Vat... who's now mostly Sir Not Appearing in this Film. I wonder how many new players get thoroughly confused by things like "who is this guy? Why is he talking like I've seen him before? What mission did he put me in a trap in that he's gloating about?? Oops where did he go now I'm fighting Romulans?"

On top of that, other arcs getting put in the "not in the journal" bin also breaks story in significant ways. Like the Dominion featured episode series was plot-critical. It covered the reintroduction of gamma Dominion, and how we GOT the new Enterprise. Now it's just... oops Shon is in command now, somehow, and *something* happened with the Dominion before they get hit by the Hur'q, and we still need to find a missing Orb of the Prophets.
Then there's the Nimbus arc. With it pulled from the normal mission progression, it also doesn't make sense. Like KDF characters led on a wild goose chase wondering where the stolen weapons sent to Nimbus went, then suddenly you get whisked off to deal with fighting between houses, you fight the Federation a tiny bit, and then the Fek'Irhi come back.

All of these missions need to be put back in the journal, IMO, and that's not even the full list. But I was mainly talking about the (Fed side) KDF War arc which is left broken and confusingly incomplete, and I'm worried they'll just pull a Foundry with it and use the excuse of it being broken and confusing to say it needs to go, instead of putting it back like they promised.

evilmark444

In the past they've said on the Livestream that it unfortunately got pushed down the priority list, but at some point they also said that the appearance of the Guardian of Forever in Disco season 3 has brought it back towards the top of the list, so we'll see.

thegrandnagus1

The truth is, it's probably never going to happen. And that, in itself, is fine and understandable. The fact is, they are constantly moving forward with the story and that is and should be their focus. New content is what excites people, not revamped old content. All of that is perfectly fine and understandable.

What is not fine/understandable is stringing the people along who keep asking about this stuff. Just be honest, take the heat for the brief amount of time it lasts, and then it will be forgotten and overshadowed by the next issue of the week.

PS: the only way the removed missions in question are ever coming back is if they are somehow a part of some new story they are trying to tell. Although, TBH, that ship has basically already sailed with the end of YOK.

paradox

davefenestrator wrote: »

Note that the year 2411 is also "after" the year of the Klingon so they have centuries left to make a vague statement like that come true.

I can't recall them promising any time frame earlier than sometime in the future but perhaps someone can find a more specific promise.

Actually 2411 starts right after the Gamma Quadrant arc, seeing as Measure of Morality takes place in 2411, which is set before the Klingon Civil War.

gaalom

I mainly focus KDF side but several of those old fed episodes were allot of fun, and should be readded. Especially the one where your tested to see if your ready to join section 31, the going back and time and helping the Kirks enterprise, even the Romulan episodes for the fed side had a twist. I would not say they are old content not worth a revamp. Always for more KDF content but people should be able to enjoy those missions. The section 31 one was perfect.

kurtron

westmetals wrote: »

Such as..... what?

These missions are basically the only thing that has ever been removed from the game with the stated intention of coming back.

Well, there was State of Q, which at the time the devs mentioned they'd like to do something with it if they can think of what (but that was forever ago), and Terradome was removed to get revamped, even longer ago. But aside from those, only the Klingon War ones are, allegedly, on the radar. Eventually. Maybe. But probably not.

kurtron

The developers mentioned that they were planning on getting started on finally doing the revamps once the 10th Anniversary was out of the way. That was 2 years ago now. They used that line "after the current whatever) something like 3 times since. It's doubtful any work is going to get done. For some reason, they're still keeping them out of the game, in spite of the fact that people ask about them here or on Reddit a couple of times a month at least.

I remember joking that we'd get a T6 Nova before the revamps, turns out I wasn't so funny.

solidshark214

I'm still annoyed that they were removed in the first place. I suppose I'm probably in the minority here, but I honestly preferred the old mission style. The newer, more "cinematic" approach has gotten us tons of missions that are--at best--fun to go through once but an absolute chore to do repeatedly, with a bevy of celebrity VAs whose characters completely take over the plot and reduce our captains to the hired muscle.

The old missions may have been shorter, may have been less "polished", may not have been as shiny. But they flowed smoothly, and darnit, our captains were the stars of the show. Not whoever the latest cool catch the devs have gotten from the shows. STO used to be about the player. It isn't anymore, and really hasn't been since at least Victory Is Life.

I'm tired of being the guest star/hired gun, while Seven of Nine and Janeway and most of the cast of Deep Space Nine steal the show.

adzcriz1

I miss the Borg one with Q's son playing games with us. "Again, With Feeling!" then there was terradome i think? been years.

That said I also liked the original borg Special Task Force missions, where The Cure could and, often did, take a few hours to beat lol

kurtron

adzcriz1 wrote: »

That said I also liked the original borg Special Task Force missions, where The Cure could and, often did, take a few hours to beat lol

Yea, but that was before the power creep. I`ll bet if they could be played now, with an ok team (not even a great one) who kinda knows what they`re doing, those combined space/ground TFOs'd take less than half an hour each.

adzcriz1

kurtron wrote: »

adzcriz1 wrote: »

That said I also liked the original borg Special Task Force missions, where The Cure could and, often did, take a few hours to beat lol

Yea, but that was before the power creep. I`ll bet if they could be played now, with an ok team (not even a great one) who kinda knows what they`re doing, those combined space/ground TFOs'd take less than half an hour each.

This is true, no longer do you need to bring different kits along with you. I'd usually run sci and have physician and physicist kits or my engie with enemy neut bomb kits. the new kits added lots to customisation, but the grind for my purple tier X kit was a pain. I miss those days lol. the game was considerably more fun then.

psiameese

I would also like to see the Federation-Klingon aspect within these missions. A bread crumb or two which acknowledges their existence all along within the STO story? Along with better rewards of, say, better quality Federation-Klingon bridge officers? They shouldn't be so rare on the exchange for unreasonable amounts of energy credits.