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  • truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    truewarper wrote: »
    As the flashback unfolded in the Alternate Picard streaming service story, Mar's exterior defense in space was turned inwards towards the surface on Mars.

    In the promo for the series, it showed ships attacking the shipyards, stations in space, and the ground facilities.

    In the latter viewing, it was shown that a lone worker android was TRIBBLE, and accessed through a panel and the rest you know *if you saw the show yourself*

    As it has been pointed on previous new cycles...the Picard series was audience tested found was met with much disapproval, and there was a lot reshooting and script changes. Since they were pressed for time on getting things done, the first promo scenes of Mars' shipyard destruction was not corrected.
    You seem confused.

    All three of those things, Mars's defense satellites being turned inward, Synth ships attacking everything, and the worker being TRIBBLE, happened. There is no script change or reshoot problem. All three of those events were happening simultaneously during the synth attack, and are mentioned to have happened in Picard.

    Okay....stand corrected on the sequence of things...shows that the show is not that memorable. But it was classified as an 'invasion'? No ground was taken and held, no demands were made, no hostages held. How were the stolen ships defeated? Where there any that survived?

    No answers will forth coming, because it was just a throw away point with no substance. Just a flash in the pan.
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    Departing from Sol *Earth* by Carlos A Smith,on Flickr
    SPACE---The Last and Great Frontier. A 14th-year journey
    Vna res, una mens, unum cor et anima una. Cetera omnia, somnium est.
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  • truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 930 Arc User
    truewarper wrote: »
    Okay....stand corrected on the sequence of things...shows that the show is not that memorable.
    I remembered it just fine.
    truewarper wrote: »
    But it was classified as an 'invasion'?
    It was never called an invasion in Picard. Just "the synth attack on Mars". The use of the term invasion is something STO made up.
    truewarper wrote: »
    How were the stolen ships defeated? Where there any that survived?
    Both of these things were explained in Picard. After learning of the attack the Federation sent a task force at high warp to Mars to deal with the synth ships(we are part of this task force in the TFO), and while they were unable to prevent the destruction of most of Mars, there were survivors

    As I said, it was not rememberable.

    We agreed on the term of the 'invasion' description.

    Hmmm...from the brief showing of firepower around Mars of the defense system, the losses of the task force should have been greater, but C Oh just wanted the fleet building of rescue ships to be stopped, and complete the misdirection. And from that alt timeline, Mars is still burning.

    52611496918_3c42b8bab8.jpg
    Departing from Sol *Earth* by Carlos A Smith,on Flickr
    SPACE---The Last and Great Frontier. A 14th-year journey
    Vna res, una mens, unum cor et anima una. Cetera omnia, somnium est.
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 854 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    felderburg wrote: »
    I want STO to recognize that it's a separate timeline from Picard.

    STO is not a separate timeline from Picard, so they probably won't be doing that.

    Spoilers for Picard follow.

    It absolutely is. In The Path to 2409, Data's memories take over B4, and he becomes captain of the Enterprise E. In the Picard/prime timeline, B4's body can't handle Data properly, so he shuts down, and pieces of the positronic net are used to recreate Data on a server and to create lots of Data's "kids". In The Path to 2409, Picard is ambassador to Vulcan (because it implicitly uses the Countdown comics as its canon). As late as 2398 (1 year before Picard takes place) Data is explicitly mentioned to be captain of the E. The supernova was only known to be happening the same year it did happen, not 3+ years earlier. Data appears in-game, still alive: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Data

    Sure, most other things like the Zhat Vash or the exact location of the supernova or the retcon of Hugh and Icheb in game can be forcibly shoe-horned in, but there is absolutely no way to make Data's established presence in the STO lore reconcile with what happened in Picard. And they shouldn't try. Obviously if the Zhat Vash had existed in Star Trek we would have seen loads of missions involving them. But they didn't, so the game doesn't even mention them (and only obliquely in this TFO). What is to be gained by shoving continuity changes into the game, just because a show that came out 10 years after the game was originally published is inconsistent? Let STO be its own timeline, just like STO let the books be their own timeline.
  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,247 Arc User
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