1. If you are going to use the obelisk warp core (or any equipment with an "infinity mark rating), and you are level 65, upgrade it (for free). To do this put the item into your inventory, right click on the item, and select upgrade item. This will turn it into a Mk XII item without costing you anything. The reason this is good is that the infinity items improve as you level up, but only to level 50. After that you need to upgrade them like anything else, but you can "convert" to non-infinity items for free.
Don't do that. Unless and until you intend to invest dil into upgrading them, the 'scaling' property has a level+ modifier to it that puts it ahead of the MKXII version it will change to when you you remove the scaling property to upgrade it (assuming this is done at max level, which, why would you do it before then?). The unmodified 'scaling' omni is about 10% stronger than the unlocked MKXII version. And the warpcore doesn't change at all.
The infinite items is the equivalent to level X, thats why after X you can start upgrading them, never seen it more powerful than a level XII item.
1. If you are going to use the obelisk warp core (or any equipment with an "infinity mark rating), and you are level 65, upgrade it (for free). To do this put the item into your inventory, right click on the item, and select upgrade item. This will turn it into a Mk XII item without costing you anything. The reason this is good is that the infinity items improve as you level up, but only to level 50. After that you need to upgrade them like anything else, but you can "convert" to non-infinity items for free.
Don't do that. Unless and until you intend to invest dil into upgrading them, the 'scaling' property has a level+ modifier to it that puts it ahead of the MKXII version it will change to when you you remove the scaling property to upgrade it (assuming this is done at max level, which, why would you do it before then?). The unmodified 'scaling' omni is about 10% stronger than the unlocked MKXII version. And the warpcore doesn't change at all.
The infinite items is the equivalent to level X, thats why after X you can start upgrading them, never seen it more powerful than a level XII item.
You can check it in game. I have (and did again tonight because this advice sounded wrong). The levelless version is ~10% stronger than the unlocked MKXII version. They don't cap at X. Levelless items *may* have at one point. But they don't anymore. They scale all the way to 65. Or maybe the misunderstanding is that MKXII is level 65. It is not. You can equip MKXII at level 50, the same level that you can equip MKX items, too. So it 'appears' to stop scaling at level 50, because it does -- at MKXII.
FYI, the levelless white items that come on c-store T6 ships are between uncommon and rare quality in terms of effectiveness. Yes, at level 65, that means compared to a MKXII.
(Note: levelless items don't show their correct properties outside their specific theaters: space items in space, ground items in ground areas)
Hmmm. If that's the case, it's news to me. My reference point in the past was the blue-quality phasers from the T1 Connie, which would max out at the equivalent of blue Mk XI stat-wise, so "upgrading" them to XII was itself an improvement.
Well, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if item scaling was inconsistent. I'm only relaying my direct observations: the anti-proton beam arrays that come on the 31st ships or the Khitomer battlecruiser are stronger than MKXII green but weaker than MKXII blue at level 65. The ancient omni gets weaker when unlocked and converted to MKXII. I even did the mission again for another (yes, today) to reconfirm my recollection of this. I say this because Rom plasma weapons are inexplicably weaker than the equivalent standard plasma weapons. Not by a massive amount, maybe ~1% or so, but it's an inconsistency. So if you observed that some other weapon behaved differently, I would be strongly inclined to believe it.
Well, my observations are related to ground items, so yeah, it could be that the scaling method is inconsistent among different inifinite or leveless items, so i'm not suprised, the comunity should do a small table with information of this, so we can pick what and waht not to upgrade.
Humm...seems the OP has left the thread after one post. Maybe he didn't like hearing he is doing everything wrong?
No, i talked to the OP by ingame mail, he is trying to get some new items, i even sent him some stuff, and he read the recomendations, seems to want to get better
Humm...seems the OP has left the thread after one post. Maybe he didn't like hearing he is doing everything wrong?
No, i talked to the OP by ingame mail, he is trying to get some new items, i even sent him some stuff, and he read the recomendations, seems to want to get better
And you were incredibly helpful!
I will post what I have going now and maybe solicit further improvements.
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Well, my observations are related to ground items, so yeah, it could be that the scaling method is inconsistent among different inifinite or leveless items, so i'm not suprised, the comunity should do a small table with information of this, so we can pick what and waht not to upgrade.
No, i talked to the OP by ingame mail, he is trying to get some new items, i even sent him some stuff, and he read the recomendations, seems to want to get better
If i have the time.. i love to help
And you were incredibly helpful!
I will post what I have going now and maybe solicit further improvements.