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jim625jim625 Member Posts: 907 Arc User
since Star Trek Picard is on in 2 weeks was wandering if some of the story arcs in sto will be getting some kind of a reboot or remake. That it will almost be based on the show. I've been herein that the Romulan faction story arc is getting a remake
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,252 Arc User
    jim625 wrote: »
    since Star Trek Picard is on in 2 weeks was wandering if some of the story arcs in sto will be getting some kind of a reboot or remake. That it will almost be based on the show. I've been herein that the Romulan faction story arc is getting a remake

    Depends on whether STO will have access to Picard content.
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  • jim625jim625 Member Posts: 907 Arc User
    jim625 wrote: »
    since Star Trek Picard is on in 2 weeks was wandering if some of the story arcs in sto will be getting some kind of a reboot or remake. That it will almost be based on the show. I've been herein that the Romulan faction story arc is getting a remake
    You have been hearing wrong.

    The Romulan faction story arc isn't getting a remake, its being given updated cutscenes and full voice acting. The missions, and the plot of said missions, are staying exactly the same.

    oh ok

  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,509 Arc User
    jim625 wrote: »
    since Star Trek Picard is on in 2 weeks was wandering if some of the story arcs in sto will be getting some kind of a reboot or remake. That it will almost be based on the show. I've been herein that the Romulan faction story arc is getting a remake

    They've said they may or may not change things, but in any case, STO can be based as an 'alternate' timeline if such thing in canon would force a dramatic change in-game. The Dev's are not entirely locked to canon.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    I hope not. Rewriting history in the game to fit stuff that isn't even canon yet is not a sensible idea. The game was made with a history written for it, between Nemesis and 2409. It is also concerning to hear what Stewart has been saying about the show and the implications it has, because it seems likely to be a real serious divergence.
  • alfred399alfred399 Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    I have a feeling STO will find a way to “spin itself off” so to speak, into another timeline. Thereby, allowing its own story to continue without Picard undoing or contradicting any of the story already established.

    Possibly something to do with the mycelial network and J’ula. I also found it a little odd they revisited the Kelvin timeline with no new on screen stuff there for a while now.

    So, maybe concluding J’ulas storyline somehow transplants all of STO into the 25th C in the KT. Would allow STO and Picard to exist simultaneously, but due to timey wimey mushroomy stuff could still allow Picard items into game.

    Just my own personal theory, would be pretty contrived, but it would mean STO doesn’t have to retcon itself if/when Picard contradicts any of the backstory
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    jim625 wrote: »
    since Star Trek Picard is on in 2 weeks was wandering if some of the story arcs in sto will be getting some kind of a reboot or remake. That it will almost be based on the show. I've been herein that the Romulan faction story arc is getting a remake

    They've said they will tweak some stuff (mostly in teh fictinal "Path to 2409" text stories) if needed; but if STP takes things to far afield from the finctinal stuff they came up with...welcome to the alternate Trek reality that is STO. :)
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    Not sure how I feel about Star Trek Picard being added to Online, from what I've seen so far.

    Primarily the stuff with the mass-produced Data's apparently rebelling against the Federation, kinda makes me concerned what the new show is going to do to the Federation.
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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 492 Arc User
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,021 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    I disagree with that assessment. Discovery is Prime and is canon, Kelvin Timeline is Kelvin Timeline, Picard is part of the Prime timeline after VOY, etc. As for differences of technologies, Star Trek: The Original Series came out in the 60s with a shoestring budget as opposed to the next iterations of Star Trek. Which can explain the supposed size discrepancies due to budgetary restrictions in TOS. Now as for the story arc as it is now I have no problem with it just wish the Available missions tab was cleaned up and the missions organized chronologically in that tab like they are in the Episodes tab including with their art that was present in that tab.
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  • eiriktworavens#2049 eiriktworavens Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    > @sthe91 said:
    > I disagree with that assessment. Discovery is Prime and is canon, Kelvin Timeline is Kelvin Timeline, Picard is part of the Prime timeline after VOY, etc. As for differences of technologies, Star Trek: The Original Series came out in the 60s with a shoestring budget as opposed to the next iterations of Star Trek. Which can explain the supposed size discrepancies due to budgetary restrictions in TOS. Now as for the story arc as it is now I have no problem with it just wish the Available missions tab was cleaned up and the missions organized chronologically in that tab like they are in the Episodes tab including with their art that was present in that tab.

    I full support everything in this post.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,017 Community Moderator
    We're not going to start gatekeeping about what is and is not canon.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    We're not going to start gatekeeping about what is and is not canon.

    CBS doesn't seem to be interested in doing that either. Star Trek has always had some inconsistencies, and obviously people can look past set dressing differences between say TOS and TNG. At some point though, the level of inconsistency and bad writing becomes a serious problem and ends up degrading your IP to the point where it means nothing.

    Look at Star Wars, one of the most powerful franchises up till recently, done in by awful writing and gross inconsistencies with the established canon.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    We're not going to start gatekeeping about what is and is not canon.

    CBS doesn't seem to be interested in doing that either. Star Trek has always had some inconsistencies, and obviously people can look past set dressing differences between say TOS and TNG. At some point though, the level of inconsistency and bad writing becomes a serious problem and ends up degrading your IP to the point where it means nothing.

    Look at Star Wars, one of the most powerful franchises up till recently, done in by awful writing and gross inconsistencies with the established canon.

    CBS isn't interested in gatekeeping because they are the IP holders. As long as they hold the IP, it is their right to say that whatever they want to be canon, is canon. So, if they say Discovery is canon, it is canon. Picard will be canon. The Kelvin Timeline movies are canon with respect that they can be their own separate universe.

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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    We're not going to start gatekeeping about what is and is not canon.

    CBS doesn't seem to be interested in doing that either. Star Trek has always had some inconsistencies, and obviously people can look past set dressing differences between say TOS and TNG. At some point though, the level of inconsistency and bad writing becomes a serious problem and ends up degrading your IP to the point where it means nothing.

    Look at Star Wars, one of the most powerful franchises up till recently, done in by awful writing and gross inconsistencies with the established canon.

    CBS isn't interested in gatekeeping because they are the IP holders. As long as they hold the IP, it is their right to say that whatever they want to be canon, is canon. So, if they say Discovery is canon, it is canon. Picard will be canon. The Kelvin Timeline movies are canon with respect that they can be their own separate universe.

    No one disputes that. If CBS wants to have space orks and unprofessional sobbing, they can, and if their lack of gatekeeping devalues the IP, that is also their problem.
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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 492 Arc User
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,017 Community Moderator
    Gatekeeping is against forum rules. Stop.
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  • truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    If they are updating the story arcs in visuals and extra dialogue , I am fine with that. Rebooting...not needed.

    As for the other stuff--that 25% difference is the difference.

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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    jim625 wrote: »
    since Star Trek Picard is on in 2 weeks was wandering if some of the story arcs in sto will be getting some kind of a reboot or remake. That it will almost be based on the show. I've been herein that the Romulan faction story arc is getting a remake

    It is likely. Since the series continues on the other ones that are taken for granted in STO (and even the first Kelvin movie) I'm thinking that 'Picard' will be too big to ignore.

    Then again, only really significant events are likely to play a role. Like the death of, say, Seven. That would pose serious problems. Or if another planet gets destroyed.

    Besides such dramatic events, even serious things can safely be ignored or easily corrected for since there's still almost a decade between Picard and STO.
    The things that happened after Nemesis and before the year in which Picard is set, are mostly only described in tekst and lore and could easily be changed without significant consequences for the game itself. If necessary, they could switch out Donatra for example if 'Picard' decides that she's still around as a regular Romulan.

    Things that happen in STO in years after 'Picard' are, as said, unlikely to be changed much unless they are very, very dramatic things.


    I'm guessing that the most extensive remake will be the inclusion into the game of whoever is doing voice overs. Like they did with LaForge and Nog who are now also present in content that was already existing before the content that was specifically designed for their characters was made.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    We're not going to start gatekeeping about what is and is not canon.

    CBS doesn't seem to be interested in doing that either. Star Trek has always had some inconsistencies, and obviously people can look past set dressing differences between say TOS and TNG. At some point though, the level of inconsistency and bad writing becomes a serious problem and ends up degrading your IP to the point where it means nothing.
    ^^^
    Yeah, but were PAST the 18 year Berman & Braga era where such bad repetative writing was a thing in the Star trek Franchise.
    Look at Star Wars, one of the most powerful franchises up till recently, done in by awful writing and gross inconsistencies with the established canon.
    ^^^
    I agree George Lucas' prequel series with Jar-Jar Binks stunk up the works something awful. ;)
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