Yeah I keep seeing people say "nepotism" but I've yet to see anyone PROVE it. Sarek isn't the reason she got passing grades, and Sarek isn't the reason Lorca decided he needed her.
To use an example from the US military, you need a recommendation to get into certain military academies. What Sarek did is the equivalent of that.... and Sarek's influence ended there.
compare the position and academics to her actual performance, and Nepotism is the simplest answer (unless she's got a brain eating parasite.)
So basically you've decided to make up your own story then complain about that instead of the actual story in the TV show.
Seriously, how long did it take for Burnham to become first officer of the Shenzhou? If you think she was given it immediately you weren't paying attention. Burnham joined the crew of Shenzhou in 2249. We don't know exactly how long it took, but we don't see her as First Officer until 2256.... SEVEN years later. What did she start out as? A Xenoanthropologist, why? because it's what she was qualified to do.
So... how is any of that nepotism? The only thing Sarek did was ask Georgiou to accept her as a member of the crew. It was apparently Georgiou's decision to make her First Officer.
Again, by the time Discovery starts Burnham has been in Starfleet for SEVEN YEARS, by the end of season 1 it might be up to 8.
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Personal liking doesn't equate to adequate preparation for a position of responsibility. Clearly their sum total of missions were of the 'milk run' variety, and a sustained trend of luck combined with non-challenging situations doesn't equate to preparation for the responsibilities of command, also, Burnham started at the top. She did't have to put in the experience rising through the ranks,s he was given first officer right out the gate.
T'Pol was given the rank of Commander in Starfleet without rising through its ranks first.
In her case it was a lateral transfer though since that was equivalent to the rank she held in the Vulcan services.
My problem with Michelle Yeoh is that she has more screen time as Empress Georgiou than Captain Georgiou. Having the season premiere as the mid-season finale would have been a better move than throwing the Federation into a war in the first couple of episodes.
If they write it well, I won't watch it, because it's not my type of show. If they write it in a way that Georgiou is anything near likeable, I won't watch it, because that is not credible writing. The woman is an unapologetic genocidaire, TRIBBLE, cannibalistic, xenophobic monster. The reason she's a good villain is because she's irredeemably evil, but convinced she's right (the difference between such villains today and the moustache-twirling black hats of yesteryear, who knew they were evil and revelled in their evilness). As I said when this was announced, they're trying to make a show where the protagonist is inherently unlikeable.
If they write it well, I won't watch it, because it's not my type of show. If they write it in a way that Georgiou is anything near likeable, I won't watch it, because that is not credible writing. The woman is an unapologetic genocidaire, TRIBBLE, cannibalistic, xenophobic monster. The reason she's a good villain is because she's irredeemably evil, but convinced she's right (the difference between such villains today and the moustache-twirling black hats of yesteryear, who knew they were evil and revelled in their evilness). As I said when this was announced, they're trying to make a show where the protagonist is inherently unlikeable.
We have never seen Empress Georgiou snack on humans so she is not cannibalistic. She is an unapologetic, genocidal, xenophobic monster. Snacking on sapient beings just means Empress Georgiou is a monster not a cannibalistic monster. Carnivorous sapient races would likely devour other sapient races without having any moral qualms especially if they are tasty sapient races.
If they write it well, I won't watch it, because it's not my type of show. If they write it in a way that Georgiou is anything near likeable, I won't watch it, because that is not credible writing. The woman is an unapologetic genocidaire, TRIBBLE, cannibalistic, xenophobic monster. The reason she's a good villain is because she's irredeemably evil, but convinced she's right (the difference between such villains today and the moustache-twirling black hats of yesteryear, who knew they were evil and revelled in their evilness). As I said when this was announced, they're trying to make a show where the protagonist is inherently unlikeable.
We have never seen Empress Georgiou snack on humans so she is not cannibalistic. She is an unapologetic, genocidal, xenophobic monster. Snacking on sapient beings just means Empress Georgiou is a monster not a cannibalistic monster. Carnivorous sapient races would likely devour other sapient races without having any moral qualms especially if they are tasty sapient races.
It's semantics, but I think the use of the word "cannibalistic" here is valid. While it's true we wouldn't use it on Earth to refer to a human eating other animals, Earth only has one technological sapient species.* Besides, all humanoid species in Star Trek share a common ancestry and can interbreed anyway (never mind that this is scientifically ludicrous).
* The jury is out on whether many species of animals qualify as sapient, but we are the only extant species that can achieve science more advanced than "poke stick into hole to retrieve yummy bug".
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If they write it well, I won't watch it, because it's not my type of show. If they write it in a way that Georgiou is anything near likeable, I won't watch it, because that is not credible writing. The woman is an unapologetic genocidaire, TRIBBLE, cannibalistic, xenophobic monster. The reason she's a good villain is because she's irredeemably evil, but convinced she's right (the difference between such villains today and the moustache-twirling black hats of yesteryear, who knew they were evil and revelled in their evilness). As I said when this was announced, they're trying to make a show where the protagonist is inherently unlikeable.
We have never seen Empress Georgiou snack on humans so she is not cannibalistic. She is an unapologetic, genocidal, xenophobic monster. Snacking on sapient beings just means Empress Georgiou is a monster not a cannibalistic monster. Carnivorous sapient races would likely devour other sapient races without having any moral qualms especially if they are tasty sapient races.
It's semantics, but I think the use of the word "cannibalistic" here is valid. While it's true we wouldn't use it on Earth to refer to a human eating other animals, Earth only has one technological sapient species.* Besides, all humanoid species in Star Trek share a common ancestry and can interbreed anyway (never mind that this is scientifically ludicrous).
* The jury is out on whether many species of animals qualify as sapient, but we are the only extant species that can achieve science more advanced than "poke stick into hole to retrieve yummy bug".
There is only one known sapient species on Earth while there are tons of sentient species on Earth.
Sentient - ability to perceive and react to the world
Sapient - ability to reason
So unless Dolphins and Whales are able to reason and they just don't have the appendages to create technology or there is some unknown underground sapient race, then we are the only known sapient race on Earth.
If they write it well, I won't watch it, because it's not my type of show. If they write it in a way that Georgiou is anything near likeable, I won't watch it, because that is not credible writing. The woman is an unapologetic genocidaire, TRIBBLE, cannibalistic, xenophobic monster. The reason she's a good villain is because she's irredeemably evil, but convinced she's right (the difference between such villains today and the moustache-twirling black hats of yesteryear, who knew they were evil and revelled in their evilness). As I said when this was announced, they're trying to make a show where the protagonist is inherently unlikeable.
We have never seen Empress Georgiou snack on humans so she is not cannibalistic. She is an unapologetic, genocidal, xenophobic monster. Snacking on sapient beings just means Empress Georgiou is a monster not a cannibalistic monster. Carnivorous sapient races would likely devour other sapient races without having any moral qualms especially if they are tasty sapient races.
It's semantics, but I think the use of the word "cannibalistic" here is valid. While it's true we wouldn't use it on Earth to refer to a human eating other animals, Earth only has one technological sapient species.* Besides, all humanoid species in Star Trek share a common ancestry and can interbreed anyway (never mind that this is scientifically ludicrous).
* The jury is out on whether many species of animals qualify as sapient, but we are the only extant species that can achieve science more advanced than "poke stick into hole to retrieve yummy bug".
There is only one known sapient species on Earth while there are tons of sentient species on Earth.
Sentient - ability to perceive and react to the world
Sapient - ability to reason
So unless Dolphins and Whales are able to reason and they just don't have the appendages to create technology or there is some unknown underground sapient race, then we are the only known sapient race on Earth.
There are, however, a number of species trembling just on the verge of sapience so far as we can tell, held back by the fact that in their particular evolutionary niches, sapience wouldn't give them any particular advantages. Dolphins and chimps are the obvious candidates, of course, which is why those were the first two species uplifted by humans in David Brin's Uplift universe (and a good thing, too, as when we discovered the civilization of the Five Galaxies, it turned out that they didn't believe sapience could occur naturally, and your rank as a species was determined by who your Patrons were and how many other species you had uplifted. Humans have no known Patron race; what kept us from being forcibly adopted into a hundred thousand years of servitude by an older species was the fact that we had two client races of our own already). However, the behavior patterns of raccoons, corvids, and coyotes shows that they're also right at that ragged edge of becoming sapient.
It's an interesting thought experiment - if we humans manage to keep other life forms on this planet alive when we (seemingly inevitably) go extinct, who's the front-runner for the next sapient species on Earth?
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Seriously, how long did it take for Burnham to become first officer of the Shenzhou? If you think she was given it immediately you weren't paying attention. Burnham joined the crew of Shenzhou in 2249. We don't know exactly how long it took, but we don't see her as First Officer until 2256.... SEVEN years later. What did she start out as? A Xenoanthropologist, why? because it's what she was qualified to do.
So... how is any of that nepotism? The only thing Sarek did was ask Georgiou to accept her as a member of the crew. It was apparently Georgiou's decision to make her First Officer.
Again, by the time Discovery starts Burnham has been in Starfleet for SEVEN YEARS, by the end of season 1 it might be up to 8.
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Well from the little I have read/seen it does not sound like a bad idea.
If they write it well, I won't watch it, because it's not my type of show. If they write it in a way that Georgiou is anything near likeable, I won't watch it, because that is not credible writing. The woman is an unapologetic genocidaire, TRIBBLE, cannibalistic, xenophobic monster. The reason she's a good villain is because she's irredeemably evil, but convinced she's right (the difference between such villains today and the moustache-twirling black hats of yesteryear, who knew they were evil and revelled in their evilness). As I said when this was announced, they're trying to make a show where the protagonist is inherently unlikeable.
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We have never seen Empress Georgiou snack on humans so she is not cannibalistic. She is an unapologetic, genocidal, xenophobic monster. Snacking on sapient beings just means Empress Georgiou is a monster not a cannibalistic monster. Carnivorous sapient races would likely devour other sapient races without having any moral qualms especially if they are tasty sapient races.
It's semantics, but I think the use of the word "cannibalistic" here is valid. While it's true we wouldn't use it on Earth to refer to a human eating other animals, Earth only has one technological sapient species.* Besides, all humanoid species in Star Trek share a common ancestry and can interbreed anyway (never mind that this is scientifically ludicrous).
* The jury is out on whether many species of animals qualify as sapient, but we are the only extant species that can achieve science more advanced than "poke stick into hole to retrieve yummy bug".
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There is only one known sapient species on Earth while there are tons of sentient species on Earth.
Sentient - ability to perceive and react to the world
Sapient - ability to reason
So unless Dolphins and Whales are able to reason and they just don't have the appendages to create technology or there is some unknown underground sapient race, then we are the only known sapient race on Earth.
It's an interesting thought experiment - if we humans manage to keep other life forms on this planet alive when we (seemingly inevitably) go extinct, who's the front-runner for the next sapient species on Earth?