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akilaganakilagan Member Posts: 40 Arc User
I think that this would be another awesome service for us to be able to choose if so desired. ie If someone wanted to change to Romulan or Klingon Defense Force from Federation or any of the above. Would be great. What do you all think about this.

Thanks Akilagan
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    avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,197 Arc User
    I would pay to play as a certain faction species on another faction.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,520 Arc User
    edited October 2018
    I suspect there are so many faction-specific quest progression flags and enough other status info that shifting from one faction to another would be exciting fun to code and even more days of joy to try to test and then debug.

    It might be less painful to develop Fed flavor-faction shifting (plain <=> TOS <=> Discovery)
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    asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Also depending on if you had other characters in the kdf/romulan/dominion faction. They might fear players calling for reimbursements on ships they bought in the c-store that they could not use anymore if they no longer had any characters that could use these faction specific ships. But yeah coding it as well as making sure that mission progression does not get glitched out, since in the fed line you would have afew arcs that would not be finished, as you did the kdff/rom/dom versions that would be lost.
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    husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    I don't get what the point would be. They would have to confiscate all your faction ships... doffs, boffs, lockbox faction specific consoles, delete your faction specific admiral cards, all your faction specific ship traits. In the end what would you be paying for ? A level 65 other faction blank toon, perhaps I guess with rep done.

    Leveling in this game isn't hard. Buy an XP boost seeing as you would be willing to pay them to switch factions. If you really want to pay to get it done... buy a 10 pack of keys, sell them for EC so you can buy some lockbox doff missions. With an XP boost and 10-20 million EC worth of missions you can be level 65 of whatever faction you want in under 3 hours logged in time. If you leveled a delta and/or gamma toons you would end up with enough rep to almost cruise to tier 5 without even touching any content. The tier 5 reward... easily handles the march to tier 6.

    My point is other then the time gates on rep. It takes so very little work to max a new toon... and all the stuff you earned as X or Y faction wouldn't be transferable anyway.
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    kibi#8855 kibi Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    I'd go for this, I want the warp effect on my non dsc chars
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    husanakx wrote: »
    I don't get what the point would be. They would have to confiscate all your faction ships... doffs, boffs, lockbox faction specific consoles, delete your faction specific admiral cards, all your faction specific ship traits. In the end what would you be paying for ? A level 65 other faction blank toon, perhaps I guess with rep done.

    Yeah, this was the first thing I thought of as well. Roll a Romulan, get a full set of Superior Romulan Operatives and then switch over to a Federation or Klingon captain with a full set of BoFF's you can't normally obtain. Same problem exists for lockbox ships, buy the DPRM console as a Romulan, change yourself into a Fed.. save like 800M Credits.

    I do kind of like the idea but there are too many loopholes that could be exploited. The game gives a generous amount of character slots meaning it's just easier to encourage players to make multiple characters.
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    keladorkelador Member Posts: 318 Arc User
    kurzis wrote: »
    I'd go for this, I want the warp effect on my non dsc chars

    Why not just an option under our character profiles to choose what effects we want to use!! I would pay for those options...
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,348 Arc User
    As far as I know, this is almost impossible to do as the character is hard-coded to the faction. However, there are already plenty of paid-for factions in the C-store, with the exception of KDF playable human, but I just alien-gen'd a Human for KDF.

    A big change for something extremely minor, and most likely would hardly ever be used.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    akilaganakilagan Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    husanakx wrote: »
    I don't get what the point would be. They would have to confiscate all your faction ships... doffs, boffs, lockbox faction specific consoles, delete your faction specific admiral cards, all your faction specific ship traits. In the end what would you be paying for ? A level 65 other faction blank toon, perhaps I guess with rep done.

    Yeah, this was the first thing I thought of as well. Roll a Romulan, get a full set of Superior Romulan Operatives and then switch over to a Federation or Klingon captain with a full set of BoFF's you can't normally obtain. Same problem exists for lockbox ships, buy the DPRM console as a Romulan, change yourself into a Fed.. save like 800M Credits.

    I do kind of like the idea but there are too many loopholes that could be exploited. The game gives a generous amount of character slots meaning it's just easier to encourage players to make multiple characters.

    I do have many alts that i can choose from in game, i guess my point in this is, lets say your main has everything done in game and you decided that you would rather play Romulan but your main is Fed. Personally i would love to have the option to put that main only one Character to that faction that ie would rather play. Make it one time only also maybe there has to be a certain criteria that you have to meet with that one character. ie All rep at Tier 5 or 6. Also you have to have xyz amount of hours played on that Main. just to name a few requirements that can close some of those loopholes. As far as Doffs and Boffs are concerned. You dont have to delete them. Just re-skin them.
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    psychoplattpsychoplatt Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    Time for the 50k Euro PNTP-Bundle (Pay Not To Play). 3 Chars of choice max leveled - all Zen / Lobi / Lockbox ships, 1000k instant Epic xiv Upgrades and reengineering for free.

    PSY

    nice u wasted so much time in your sig - i do not see it anyway :)
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    akilagan wrote: »
    I do have many alts that i can choose from in game, i guess my point in this is, lets say your main has everything done in game and you decided that you would rather play Romulan but your main is Fed. Personally i would love to have the option to put that main only one Character to that faction that ie would rather play. Make it one time only also maybe there has to be a certain criteria that you have to meet with that one character. ie All rep at Tier 5 or 6. Also you have to have xyz amount of hours played on that Main. just to name a few requirements that can close some of those loopholes. As far as Doffs and Boffs are concerned. You dont have to delete them. Just re-skin them.

    I understand what you're saying and I actually like the idea. I just don't think it's feasible for the reasons I stated earlier. There are a lot of things in this game that are faction locked from lockbox ships and items, lobi store items, traits, bridge officers, the list goes on and on and all these things would need to be handled before something like this can be done.

    I don't clam to understand the programming in the game, I don't. But to me, it sounds like it would be a lot of work and it's just not something I can see them putting the time and effort into unless they really thought it would be a big money maker.
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    Am i in a time warp? did I got back to 2010
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,348 Arc User
    akilagan wrote: »
    I do have many alts that i can choose from in game, i guess my point in this is, lets say your main has everything done in game and you decided that you would rather play Romulan but your main is Fed. Personally i would love to have the option to put that main only one Character to that faction that ie would rather play. Make it one time only also maybe there has to be a certain criteria that you have to meet with that one character. ie All rep at Tier 5 or 6. Also you have to have xyz amount of hours played on that Main. just to name a few requirements that can close some of those loopholes. As far as Doffs and Boffs are concerned. You dont have to delete them. Just re-skin them.

    I understand what you're saying and I actually like the idea. I just don't think it's feasible for the reasons I stated earlier. There are a lot of things in this game that are faction locked from lockbox ships and items, lobi store items, traits, bridge officers, the list goes on and on and all these things would need to be handled before something like this can be done.

    I don't clam to understand the programming in the game, I don't. But to me, it sounds like it would be a lot of work and it's just not something I can see them putting the time and effort into unless they really thought it would be a big money maker.

    I don't claim to know the exact words of what one of the lead programmers said, but I think the sentiment of "asking a leopard to change it's spots" comes into mind for how difficult it would be with the current coding. They would have to rebuild the back-bone of the game to recode the factions from what I understand.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    ktbu#5082 ktbu Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    Silly idea, not well thought through as it is impossible to implement.

    A much better idea is to pay to switch careers; ie. from science to tactical. Still the only way I can see them doing that would be to remove all the science ships you had been given and to reset all your skills and only available at level 52. Basically you woould keep your level but the price would be (besides purchasing a career change voucher for 1k zen) that you loose all your tier ships and loose all mission progress. You would then be able to replay as a tactile officer from the beginning but you would keep your level that you reached. It would make the replay much more challenging and I think it would be welcomed by the community.
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    dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Yeah, never gonna happen. C-store and mission differences would make it a nightmare to equivocate.
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