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Quad Cannons

rossclansforce1rossclansforce1 Member Posts: 400 Arc User
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My main character still uses the defiant quad cannon build. I refuse to bow down to cruiser beam faw online game design. With that being said.. the quad cannons used to have one extra mod above other weapons. This kept them somewhat useful? (DHC always out performed it) The entire reason quad cannons were built in the first place was to do more damage than other cannons. I fully intend to change the procs to crtd but still.. with both weapon and power drain plus no real advantage mod wise you are better off hitting delete on the epic XV weapon and never turning back. The items that used to be unique and useful in this game are starting to look like garbage including borg proc weapons. (I don't care if the proc didn't work as intended)
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    They have an extra 3% damage baked into them now to get around the number of mods compatibility with Re-Engineering, so effectively they're the listed mods and an invisible [dmg].
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  • rossclansforce1rossclansforce1 Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    They have an extra 3% damage baked into them now to get around the number of mods compatibility with Re-Engineering, so effectively they're the listed mods and an invisible [dmg].

    Thank you for letting me know. I took some time away so I didn't see they updated this.
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    1) FAW online is dead. It has been since they nerfed FAW into the ground. Well at least FAW 1. That skill is useless now. FAW 2 is okayish...and FAW 3 is still good. But yeah, beams are so last meta.

    2) It looks cool...or is that not enough?

    Yikes... I missed that one too. Sounds like I need to update some of my other toons. Some of those ships are now useless unless I want to join the disco party laser light show.. :(
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Quad Cannons currently slightly out perform standard DHC/HC by a slight margin, they’re still quite good.

    As Napalm said, Cannons are the current ‘top dog’ for overall DPS. While I believe the nerfs on FAW I and II went a little too far, overall there is a really good balance right now. Both Cannons and Beams are viable provided the beam build uses FAW III. Cannons are definitely stronger overall but still not as easy to use as a beam build. Upgrade those Quads and enjoy, they’re awesome. :smile:
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Also worth noting that the Quad cannons draw on engine power.

    Whilst I do use them, I find them best on my Pilot Raptor since it can compensate for the slight loss of speed with it's fancy pilot manuvers.

    I used to avoid them for that reason, but it turns out that -10 Engine Power usually makes no difference to me.

    Still, it's a good point, if you need the extra engine power then it might be best to avoid Quads.
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  • blairbrianblairbrian Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    I bought the T6 Escort and the T5-U Dreadnought and the T4 Escort to get the whole set with the Quad Cannons. I found the Quad Cannons to be no better than Dual Heavy Cannons Or Dual Cannons. They offer no extra DMG than Dual Heavy Cannons Or Dual Cannons. I was under the impression that Quad meant 4 And Twin meant Two. So if they are really Quad Cannons they should do the same DMG as two Duel Cannons. But this is not the case at all. Also the Cloak is not really any better with the full set. You still can't fire torpedos or mines while cloaked. To make a long story short. It was a rip off and a waste of money.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    blairbrian wrote: »
    I bought the T6 Escort and the T5-U Dreadnought and the T4 Escort to get the whole set with the Quad Cannons. I found the Quad Cannons to be no better than Dual Heavy Cannons Or Dual Cannons. They offer no extra DMG than Dual Heavy Cannons Or Dual Cannons. I was under the impression that Quad meant 4 And Twin meant Two. So if they are really Quad Cannons they should do the same DMG as two Duel Cannons. But this is not the case at all. Also the Cloak is not really any better with the full set. You still can't fire torpedos or mines while cloaked. To make a long story short. It was a rip off and a waste of money.

    Most people won't notice any improvement between Quads and standard DHC's. I saw some parses a while back over on the build reddit and the Quads function pretty similar to standard duals or dual heavies, the difference is percentages and you'll only really notice that in parsing.

    The big problem with Quads is that they come at Mark XII Very Rare, so often times they're more expensive to push to Epic then just crafting some Mark II's and upgrading from there. I have one character that uses the Quads because I got lucky on the upgrade but usually I will just go the cheaper route and craft a Mark II Dual or Mark II Dual Heavy and upgrade it instead.

    As you said, just because they're called 'Quad Cannons' doesn't mean they do 4 times the damage, it's not even close to that. The name can be a bit deceptive.
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