Really struggling with making map transitions

littlesarbonn

I've watched a few Youtube videos, and I've read a couple of help topics, but I can't seem to make a map transition work. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I make three maps (one ground, one space and one indoor). I put all the objects on all of them. I then start with one of them and then after a kill mission, I'll then try to go to another map (and the flow seems to show it does it), but I can't actually transition from one map to the other.

An example: I create my 3 area mission, and then run a go through where I beam into Starfleet Headquarters. I use a door as my map change location, and when I go to the door, it gives me the map change dialog and then throws me right back at the beginning of that map again. I don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

spiritborn

littlesarbonn wrote: »

I've watched a few Youtube videos, and I've read a couple of help topics, but I can't seem to make a map transition work. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I make three maps (one ground, one space and one indoor). I put all the objects on all of them. I then start with one of them and then after a kill mission, I'll then try to go to another map (and the flow seems to show it does it), but I can't actually transition from one map to the other.

An example: I create my 3 area mission, and then run a go through where I beam into Starfleet Headquarters. I use a door as my map change location, and when I go to the door, it gives me the map change dialog and then throws me right back at the beginning of that map again. I don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

Map transitions are bugged and don't work in the editor, you need to publish a "test version" to test transitions. So you're doing nothing wrong, it's just that the game isn't working as it should.

ashstorm1

Yeah, map transitions have been bugged since forever in the editor. Don't worry about them too much, though, as long as you follow the correct procedure to make them, they will work smoothly once the mission is published.

littlesarbonn

Oh, thank you both for the responses. That makes me feel better cause this was driving me nuts. I'll try a test build tonight and see if I can get this story going.

littlesarbonn

Well, the map transitions are now working, but for some reason all of my enemies act friendly. I may have created peace in the galaxy, but that wasn't really my plan....

spiritborn

littlesarbonn wrote: »

Well, the map transitions are now working, but for some reason all of my enemies act friendly. I may have created peace in the galaxy, but that wasn't really my plan....

You might want to check your NPC groups there, you might have put friendly versions of the NPC/neutral versions of those NPC groups instead of the intended hostile ones.

My advice is to test maps individually first and worry about transitions only after that instead of trying to test the whole thing at one go.

ashstorm1

littlesarbonn wrote: »

Well, the map transitions are now working, but for some reason all of my enemies act friendly. I may have created peace in the galaxy, but that wasn't really my plan....

The best way to create hostile NPC groups on a map is to use one of the premade groups in the "NPC groups" section of the library on the right. If i remember right, there's even a menu to filter these groups according to faction allegiance.

littlesarbonn

spiritborn wrote: »

littlesarbonn wrote: »

Well, the map transitions are now working, but for some reason all of my enemies act friendly. I may have created peace in the galaxy, but that wasn't really my plan....

You might want to check your NPC groups there, you might have put friendly versions of the NPC/neutral versions of those NPC groups instead of the intended hostile ones.

My advice is to test maps individually first and worry about transitions only after that instead of trying to test the whole thing at one go.

That's exactly what happened. I was using borg mobs, and didn't realize I had chosen a friendly borg group instead of hostile. One thing I did find interesting is that even though I was using a group of friendly borg (a group of 3 probes), a large cube showed up just slightly away from those probes. I couldn't even target it, but it was there. I found that really weird.

markhawkman

The Borg Cooperative can and will use Cubes to assist you in combat if that mob is coded with them. they might even use a Borg Type 3 if you're teamed with enough people to cause dreadnaughts to spawn. Yes, the devs programmed THAT monstrosity into the game. I like it.

littlesarbonn

markhawkman wrote: »

The Borg Cooperative can and will use Cubes to assist you in combat if that mob is coded with them. they might even use a Borg Type 3 if you're teamed with enough people to cause dreadnaughts to spawn. Yes, the devs programmed THAT monstrosity into the game. I like it.

Oh okay. That's really interesting to know. It's kind of like an AI element built into the system. I really like that.

markhawkman

#1 thing to check when using Borg in Foundry: does it say "Cooperative" or "Collective"?

littlesarbonn

markhawkman wrote: »

#1 thing to check when using Borg in Foundry: does it say "Cooperative" or "Collective"?

Yeah, I kind of learned that the hard way. Now, I'm just having trouble fixing my maps because the foundry keeps crashing to desktop, and the only way back into the game is to restart my computer.

littlesarbonn

Okay, I managed to finish my mission, and I'll be polishing it up and then releasing it this weekend. Thanks for all the help.

One thing I noticed and can't seem to fix is that I got a bunch of dialog errors, and then discovered about four characters that appear as dialog, even though I've never added them. They basically just show up at random times during the adventure. Not able to get rid of them, I incorporated them into the adventure, but because my adventure has a lot of humor, it worked. But not sure this would work on my future adventures. Anyone know why this happened? Basically, it added new popup character interactions in the dialog area, even though I never did it myself.

markhawkman

littlesarbonn wrote: »

Okay, I managed to finish my mission, and I'll be polishing it up and then releasing it this weekend. Thanks for all the help.

One thing I noticed and can't seem to fix is that I got a bunch of dialog errors, and then discovered about four characters that appear as dialog, even though I've never added them. They basically just show up at random times during the adventure. Not able to get rid of them, I incorporated them into the adventure, but because my adventure has a lot of humor, it worked. But not sure this would work on my future adventures. Anyone know why this happened? Basically, it added new popup character interactions in the dialog area, even though I never did it myself.

More info is needed. what type of dialog, where is the extra box?

littlesarbonn

markhawkman wrote: »

littlesarbonn wrote: »

Okay, I managed to finish my mission, and I'll be polishing it up and then releasing it this weekend. Thanks for all the help.

One thing I noticed and can't seem to fix is that I got a bunch of dialog errors, and then discovered about four characters that appear as dialog, even though I've never added them. They basically just show up at random times during the adventure. Not able to get rid of them, I incorporated them into the adventure, but because my adventure has a lot of humor, it worked. But not sure this would work on my future adventures. Anyone know why this happened? Basically, it added new popup character interactions in the dialog area, even though I never did it myself.

More info is needed. what type of dialog, where is the extra box?

It just added it in random spots during the mission. There's like 3 or 4 of these dialog boxes. If you play the scenario, you can tell where they are because I made them as annoying interruptions by the captain's crew while he's on the mission, mainly because I couldn't figure out how to get rid of them. I'm mentioning it here because I don't want to run into this with Part 2.

By the way, the mission is called Bob From Accounting Episode 1. All things aside, it was actually fun to make. I think my next step might be to increase the level of the enemies in it as it's easy to just plow through it. But I was thinking it was more about the story than the fighting, but there's no reason it can't be both.

zebgodwin

I’ve run into this problem before with orphaned popup dialogues that show up in the mission but don’t appear on the story tab. The trick is to find them on the dialogue tab and delete them from there.

littlesarbonn

zebgodwin wrote: »

I’ve run into this problem before with orphaned popup dialogues that show up in the mission but don’t appear on the story tab. The trick is to find them on the dialogue tab and delete them from there.

Wow, such a simple solution and it didn't occur to me. Thank you.