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Stop the true way and make peace with the alpha Jem Hadar

grazyc2#7847 grazyc2
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edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
We all know this DS9 mission, and now like some are playing it with our Gama Jem Hadar.
And the mission isn't changed the founder isn't surprised to see an Gama Jem Hadar.
Neman act like your a normal solid, actually it's same as any other.
The least the Dev's could do is change this DS9 adventure for the playable Jem Hadar.
I hope they will consider it in the future ...
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,049 Community Moderator
    Your Jem'Hadar is not going back in time and participating in these events. They are Holodeck simulations of the events that occurred before your Jem'Hadar came into the story during VIL. According to canon, Holodeck characters are regularly programmed to see the participants as just some other characters in the story (see: Data as Sherlock Holmes, Picard as Dixon Hill). To alter the mission in any way would be to alter "history".

    Now, I don't even think of it that way myself, because I don't really see Jem'Hadar going to a holodeck. I'm just playing a game, earning accolades and gear, and unlocking stuff for my toon until his real story/adventures can continue after VIL.

    Look, the devs could've easily just said that Jem'Hadar don't get to participate in anything prior to VIL, because they don't enter the story until now. But what fun would that be?
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    What BMR said. Your J-H is participating in a sim of the missions pre-ViL, not actually doing them.
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    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    We all know this DS9 mission, and now like some are playing it with our Gama Jem Hadar.
    And the mission isn't changed the founder isn't surprised to see an Gama Jem Hadar.
    Neman act like your a normal solid, actually it's same as any other.
    The least the Dev's could do is change this DS9 adventure for the playable Jem Hadar.
    I hope they will consider it in the future ...

    Read before you criticize, the holodeck thing is explained to you when you finish the Gama Arc. It's rude to come in and insinuate that the writing is lazy when it was actually you that couldn't be bothered to read the information you were given.
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  • majorhalcyonmajorhalcyon Member Posts: 199 Arc User
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    We all know this DS9 mission, and now like some are playing it with our Gama Jem Hadar.
    And the mission isn't changed the founder isn't surprised to see an Gama Jem Hadar.
    Neman act like your a normal solid, actually it's same as any other.
    The least the Dev's could do is change this DS9 adventure for the playable Jem Hadar.
    I hope they will consider it in the future ...

    Read before you criticize, the holodeck thing is explained to you when you finish the Gama Arc. It's rude to come in and insinuate that the writing is lazy when it was actually you that couldn't be bothered to read the information you were given.

    Perhaps you should do the same: it was not stated as such upon launch of ViL, so if they leveled a JH and completed the Gamma arc before it was enabled, they would not have seen it...it was not until the patch on June 28th that it was added in:
    ◦Jem'Hadar additionally receive a notification that upon completion of "Tenebris Torquent" they unlock the ability to play simulations of their allied faction's missions.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    majorhalcyon wrote: »
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    We all know this DS9 mission, and now like some are playing it with our Gama Jem Hadar.
    And the mission isn't changed the founder isn't surprised to see an Gama Jem Hadar.
    Neman act like your a normal solid, actually it's same as any other.
    The least the Dev's could do is change this DS9 adventure for the playable Jem Hadar.
    I hope they will consider it in the future ...

    Read before you criticize, the holodeck thing is explained to you when you finish the Gama Arc. It's rude to come in and insinuate that the writing is lazy when it was actually you that couldn't be bothered to read the information you were given.

    Perhaps you should do the same: it was not stated as such upon launch of ViL, so if they leveled a JH and completed the Gamma arc before it was enabled, they would not have seen it...it was not until the patch on June 28th that it was added in:
    ◦Jem'Hadar additionally receive a notification that upon completion of "Tenebris Torquent" they unlock the ability to play simulations of their allied faction's missions.

    Even assuming he made it during that one week.. first impulse was to just slam the development team for bad writing without asking first for any form of clarification. I stand by what I said. The poster has a long history of this type of thing.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    If the people complaining about this don't know they are simulations, why aren't they complaining about the much more obvious issue: Why the jem'hadar are even playing these missions in the first place?

    Even without being explicitly said, the old missions being simulations is the only reasonable explanation for them being playable at all.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,049 Community Moderator
    rojan1987 wrote: »
    you forget Laforge and Data programmed the hologram James Moriarty to equal Data and for Dixon Hill the three holograms also became aware due to the holodeck's malfunction and they left the holodeck and you know the rest.

    I didn't "forget" anything. I stated "regularly programmed" as in, how it's supposed to function. You're talking about specific instances where something went WRONG with the Holodeck to drive a particular episode plot. Your comments also have no bearing on the given topic, as we have no examples of missions with Holodeck simulations malfunctioning.
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  • grazyc2#7847 grazyc2
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    I could say they could jump back in time lolzzz
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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @baddmoonrizin said:
    > rojan1987 wrote: »
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    > you forget Laforge and Data programmed the hologram James Moriarty to equal Data and for Dixon Hill the three holograms also became aware due to the holodeck's malfunction and they left the holodeck and you know the rest.
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    > I didn't "forget" anything. I stated "regularly programmed" as in, how it's supposed to function. You're talking about specific instances where something went WRONG with the Holodeck to drive a particular episode plot. Your comments also have no bearing on the given topic, as we have no examples of missions with Holodeck simulations malfunctioning.

    Not to mention the gangsters in The Big Goodbye did not leave the holodeck, Data crushed a gun with his fingers and knocked one out then Picard had a talk with another and left, nor did Moriarty leave the holodeck, they put him in a small computer.

    The Gangsters actually do go out of the holodeck and into the corridor for a moment in that episode, and they do slowly vaporize upon stepping out.

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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    I remember that ep too. The gangsters did step out of the holodeck, and then promptly dissolved.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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