Has Star Trek online always had these types of players? I was in zone chat this morning asking for help in creating a new fleet for my Romulan Science officer whose part of the KDF. I know there are plenty of fleets out there but many of them have crazy rules that make it hard to contribute resources or by the time they do open stuff up to contribute most of the mark slot are full and there fore joining seems to be a waste of time. I want the challenge of building my own fleet from the ground up but the game needs you to be part of a five man team.
I asked politely but every time and these must be kids due to the responses I got. One person had the nerve to say join an existing fleet I'm thinking if I wanted to join an existing fleet I would already then a bunch of their friends jumped on me and said we're not helping you. Well here's a tip, you didn't help to start with.
Have any of you guys dealt with players like this?
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Fleet leader Nova Elite
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I've seen players offer up to 5million EC to each player for their time. (It still took this player a good hour to find 4 players willing to sacrifice their time.)
I've also seen someone offer 3 key to each player. (That one filled up rather quickly).
You have to also consider most players are already in a fleet, and leaving their home fleet to help someone out is just too much of a hassle.
I have 1 character I kept fleet free, explicitly to help people create fleets.
Most people are against the idea of solo fleets. Since its an oxymoron. And in actuality, I lean that way in thinking as well, as I think most people do it for the free bank space tbh. To avoid paying for inventory space.
But from time to time, I feel generous enough to shelve my Solo Fleet bias' and help someone out.
I think I've used that character 2-3 times now to help people create their own Solo Fleets.
Anyway my advice is to cough up some resources and make an offer in zone chat.
There will always be the Zone Brats trying to discourage you... but if you offer a nice enough package you should achieve your goal.
They better the package you offer, the quicker players will lend you their time.
I'd suggest starting at 5mil per player.
EDIT: If your offer is good enough... you wont have to deal with the rude people for long, because you'll have your 4 people in no time.
Personally I turned zone chat off years ago and never gone back.
Diddo. It's a sorry state of affairs as I'm willing to help others out if they want to set up a new fleet and I'm idling around, but because the zone chat is such a turn off for me I'll never read any callouts for help.
Personally I did one for the accomplishment and the aggravation free content available for being in a fleet. And it turns out my solo fleet is doing much better advancement-wise than most of the other fleets I've observed out there.
Welcome to the radioactive cesspool that is the Star Trek Online zone chat, OP ; where all the RL rejects, sickos, and sociopaths gather to make STO a worse place for everyone.
With that said, I wish you the best of luck with your fleet-to-be.
Well that's great and all that.
All I was saying is I've seen people offering nothing trying to get volunteers for hours on end. They just keep asking and everyone continues to go about there business.
If there is compensation offered it will expedite the process. Simple as that.
*Most will not have the luxury of someone like you swooping in "to save the day."*
And I'm just going by what I see in Zone nearly everyday.
If there's an offer for compensation those request usually get filled. The ones who offer nothing... continue to spam zone chat all night with no results.
But great you're gonna help this guy out. Awesome ! Too bad you can't do the same for everybody asking in Zone.... In such situations, where you're not available, they might want to offer something in return for peoples time if they don't want it to take all day (or longer) to gather 4 other players.
Its common practice in game if you pay attention to zone chat at all.
If you have a need for chat in-game, there are far more interesting chat channels; TSC, 7th Order, Voice of OC - even the DPS channels are more interesting most of the time when there is no complaining about nerfs etc.
Worst part is that, quite often, the cr@p that we find in zone chat isn't even worthy of being called 'arguments'. Usually it just seems to be a competition of who can stir up the chat the most by posting random thoughts that serve no other point but to provoke others.
I just assume that this game's zone chat is mostly populated by Tellarite roleplayers. Helps me with keeping some faith in humanity's intelligence
Ah well, that certainly explains your complete ignorance on how hard it can be for some people to get a solo fleet going.
No surprise you never noticed it. And no surprise you've never seen people offering compensation for help as is a common occurrence.
If you turned your zone chat on every now and again just think of how many other solo fleets you could help out ! You'd be like... some kind of hero. Philanthropist #1 you'd be.
Too bad you're not more pro active.. Then I wouldn't have to see the same sob story nearly every day in Zone chat.
So... for "everybody else" who doesn't have a "Valoreah to swoop in and save their day".... make your life easier, and offer reasonable compensation. It's common practice in game and will get you results.
It's a lot better then standing around all day (or longer) hoping on a prayer that a white knight like Val will show up.
OP Iggy is your friend thats how to deal with them.
We come in peace, SHOOT TO KILL!
So, good luck to you (no narcasm intended) if you want to go ahead and form your own Fleet. Just be d*mn sure you know what you're getting yourself into.
Well others can be disrespectful all they wish but how you choose to react is something you should always consider more carefully, for example in this type of suitation it can cut both ways, this person is telling you something you considered rude, but how would this player to know what your thoughts on the subject are until you make your case? That is you being disrespectful and rude in return.
When someone attacks someone elses position, more often than not on these online games the one replying is being just as much the jerk as the offering it in the first place, and where there is the chance of a fertile ground for hostility, you always got those wind up merchants and trolls who want to stir the pot to get a rise.
If you want to avoid a problem, be straight up about it, honest and show some respect even if you are not getting any in return in some cases. How others choose to respond you can't control neither can you try, the only thing you can do in a situation like that is being smart about, but there is a line between being smart and being disrespectful.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
If you can't take a few minutes out of your day to help someone, without a reward. Then you are lower than the scum on the bottom of a garbage pile.
I'm not currently ingame. But all my KDF chars are fleetless, so send me a message here or ingame as to when you're going to go make the fleet and I'll be glad to help.