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Can we give our holo Leeta a makeover?

feveefevee Member Posts: 45 Arc User
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I like the idea of having a photonic officer, and if we logged in at the right time, we thus earned ourselves an Intelligence photonic female. But I just don't really care for Ms. Mirror Admiral Leeta, and I'd rather just dispose of her than have an uncustomizable sore thumb hanging out with my away team.

Akin to the android bridge officer, can we please have the power to customize her appearance and name?
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Nope. Holo real-Trek-characters are custom-designed and not built to be changeable by the tailor.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    You can customize an android boff if you have LTS.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    I'd like Leeta's Dabo costume for my toons :D
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  • feveefevee Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Nope. Holo real-Trek-characters are custom-designed and not built to be changeable by the tailor.

    That's why I'm asking if they can change that. Otherwise, I'd rather just dismiss holo Leeta and just recruit my own Intelligence officer.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    fevee wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Nope. Holo real-Trek-characters are custom-designed and not built to be changeable by the tailor.

    That's why I'm asking if they can change that. Otherwise, I'd rather just dismiss holo Leeta and just recruit my own Intelligence officer.

    Ehhh but those recruits wont be very rare quality... and holo boff Leeta makes a pretty darn good ground unit in combat. (I use her on most of my away teams as my tac officer)

    But I understand how it could break someone's immersion not being able to change her look.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    Leeta is so powerful she forced one of my Away Teams to use the Leeta Outfits. ;)

    There are at least two giveaways that let you choose the Dabo Leeta instead if Mirror. Also uncustomizable. Even the original Groupees one is now not just Mirror Leeta. I have three unlocks in the C-Store Promotions Tab for the Leeta 'Twins'.

    Most Photionic Officers you can get are uncustomizable (including the TOS Bridge Crew AFAIK). The exception as far as I know is the EMH (Picardo/Orion Female). I know those let you change Costumes at least, because on my NX themed Character he is wearing the Enterprise Outfit.

    There may be some pseudo-legal reason to not let you alter the appearance of a Boff based on a real life person. Who knows. You'd think otherwise it would be easier to alter the Uniform on a Hologram, you just program it.

    And by the way, Leeta is considered an 'Epic' Boff. To me that means four Superior Attributes. She only has the normal two for a Very Rare Boff.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    If you could change her appearance and name, then she wouldn't be Leeta anymore and defeat the whole point of her being a Holo-Leeta BOFF. :/

    The only customizable Holo-BOFFs so far are the EMH and the Engineering Holo-BOFF from DR. I wish they'd make the Tactical Holo-BOFF in the Lobi Store customizable as well.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    If you could change her appearance and name, then she wouldn't be Leeta anymore and defeat the whole point of her being a Holo-Leeta BOFF. :/


    Sure, she would. She's HOLO Leeta. She's not REAL Leeta. She's just a bunch of programmed data. The crew could make her Talking Horta Leeta if they wanted to.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I can just imagine what people would do with modifying Leeta if they could. Oy!! :)
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    I just wish that while MU Leeta is Tactical, the Dabo Leeta had been Sci or Eng.
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  • feveefevee Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    If you could change her appearance and name, then she wouldn't be Leeta anymore and defeat the whole point of her being a Holo-Leeta BOFF. :/

    I don't really care if it's Holo-Leeta, obviously I'm up for having an epic-quality BOff, but like the android BOff, I'd like it if it just considered it an alien and allowed me to customize it as such.

    I logged in in time to qualify for a holographic female Intelligence officer, why should anyone else care what I name it and how it looks?
  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    I manage to get a holo-Leeta, when were they giving away a holographic female Intelligence officer ?
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    fevee wrote: »
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    If you could change her appearance and name, then she wouldn't be Leeta anymore and defeat the whole point of her being a Holo-Leeta BOFF. :/

    I don't really care if it's Holo-Leeta, obviously I'm up for having an epic-quality BOff, but like the android BOff, I'd like it if it just considered it an alien and allowed me to customize it as such.

    I logged in in time to qualify for a holographic female Intelligence officer, why should anyone else care what I name it and how it looks?

    Because it is SPECIFICALLY a Holographic Leeta, not a generic holographic BOFF. I don't care, but Cryptic obviously does, hence why the only "customization" she has is between her Prime and Mirror Universe versions.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    Also, one person who may care, even in a circumspect way, may be Chase Masterson. You may completely change her looks to green haired manga girl named Kasumi, or to a Spanish lady Concepcion Garcia Garcia, with the appropriate looks. Others though may keep her a Leeta but change the optics to something untowards or amend the name with epithets.

    And as for "the crew can do whatever they want with holograms": this is a situation that has also changed thanks to some EMH lawsuits.

    Finally from the point of view of giveaway organizers: they may want to give away specifically a Leeta, not a holographic boff with certain traits.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    And as for "the crew can do whatever they want with holograms": this is a situation that has also changed thanks to some EMH lawsuits.


    True, but that would apply to Prime Holo-Leeta. Mirror Holo-Leeta, as this one is, may not have that issue. Mirror Leeta would reprogram the hologram anyway, if for no other purpose than to give it the overwhelm urge to make-out with her.
  • jimmyroebuckjimmyroebuck Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    At this juncture, I'd settle for just being able to change the uniforms. The logic behind it is very simple, if they are a part of a crew, or (made an elitsted officer with rank and insigna) then they should be able to wear the the uniform which, I believe, would be more than fair!

    Hopefully, Cyrptic would agree with the above sentiment and give modification control over these special (Holo, Android, Alien, etc) boff charactes:)

    Thanks
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Diplomacy Boffs as well, let them use your Uniforms.
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    Given what starships we can already fly, that make zero sense, lore-wise, that it is still such a big deal, when even the possibility of opening the tailor more is mentioned, with rather passionate 'no' answers... I will not understand that oddity.

    That being said, nudity aside, as that's its' separate issue & understandable that it should not be a thing - if all was game, I'd not mind at all. If someone wants to change their unique-look Leeta to something else, why not allow them? It hurts absolutely nobody. (And nope 'I don't want to see it on other people's characters' is not a valid argument) :smile:
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  • jimmyroebuckjimmyroebuck Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    jodarkrider wrote: »
    Given what starships we can already fly, that make zero sense, lore-wise, that it is still such a big deal, when even the possibility of opening the tailor more is mentioned, with rather passionate 'no' answers... I will not understand that oddity.

    That being said, nudity aside, as that's its' separate issue & understandable that it should not be a thing - if all was game, I'd not mind at all. If someone wants to change their unique-look Leeta to something else, why not allow them? It hurts absolutely nobody. (And nope 'I don't want to see it on other people's characters' is not a valid argument) :smile:
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    How true!!
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    jodarkrider wrote: »
    Given what starships we can already fly, that make zero sense, lore-wise, that it is still such a big deal, when even the possibility of opening the tailor more is mentioned, with rather passionate 'no' answers... I will not understand that oddity.

    That being said, nudity aside, as that's its' separate issue & understandable that it should not be a thing - if all was game, I'd not mind at all. If someone wants to change their unique-look Leeta to something else, why not allow them? It hurts absolutely nobody. (And nope 'I don't want to see it on other people's characters' is not a valid argument) :smile:

    Well, what you're talking about, Jo, is a completely different issue. I quite agree with you on opening up/adding more Tailor options and loosening some of the restrictions. But this particular Holo-BOFF is meant to be a certain character: Leeta. Changing her looks shouldn't be an option, as we shouldn't be able to change the looks of the TOS crew Holo-BOFFs.

    I agreed with the change to allow us to customize the original Science Holo-BOFF, because it wasn't meant to be the Robert Picardo "Doctor" EMH. It was right of them to allow the DR Engineering Holo-BOFF to be fully customizable as it doesn't represent any particular character either. I would support allowing the Lobi Store Tactical Holo-BOFF to be made fully customizable as well for the same reasons. But Holo-BOFFs that represent named characters should not be customizable at all, especially since Cryptic had to pay to license the actor's likeness for said BOFF.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    I agreed with the change to allow us to customize the original Science Holo-BOFF, because it wasn't meant to be the Robert Picardo "Doctor" EMH.


    It looks like it is a variant of Zachary Quinto Holo-BOff from the original tutorial. If you will recall, Bridge Officers had voices back in the Beta (and maybe a short time afterward). It may have been intended to have his voice, which is why it is locked.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    jslyn wrote: »
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    I agreed with the change to allow us to customize the original Science Holo-BOFF, because it wasn't meant to be the Robert Picardo "Doctor" EMH.


    It looks like it is a variant of Zachary Quinto Holo-BOff from the original tutorial. If you will recall, Bridge Officers had voices back in the Beta (and maybe a short time afterward). It may have been intended to have his voice, which is why it is locked.

    No, the original Science Holo-BOFF didn't look like the Zachary Quinto EMH. And yes, originally that BOFF was locked, but it is now customizable.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    fevee wrote: »
    Akin to the android bridge officer, can we please have the power to customize her appearance and name?


    Leeta is not a generic boff, but Leeta. If you could 'customize her appearance and name,' then she'd stop being Leeta. In which case you could just buy a generic, fully customizable boff off Exchange, make her look like Leeta (but with the changes you want), and be done with it.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    One of my Character's Away Team is in the Wells Uniform, except for Leeta in her hot pants and the Orion Diplomacy Boff in the Temporal Jumpsuit. Some uniform consistency. Maybe we need a Privateer Faction and everybody can dress up in the Mercenary Outfits. ;)
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  • feveefevee Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    fevee wrote: »
    Akin to the android bridge officer, can we please have the power to customize her appearance and name?

    Leeta is not a generic boff, but Leeta. If you could 'customize her appearance and name,' then she'd stop being Leeta. In which case you could just buy a generic, fully customizable boff off Exchange, make her look like Leeta (but with the changes you want), and be done with it.

    Well I don't want her to be Leeta anymore, anyways. Again, I'd rather just dismiss her, since she's not doing anything to contribute to the crew. Can't it just be a Female Photonic BOFF? I'd like someone official to come in here and explain why it'd be such a big deal to customize her. Honestly, she's just creepy and sticks out like a sore thumb.
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    the only "customization" she has is between her Prime and Mirror Universe versions.

    I don't even seem to have that option.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    One of my Character's Away Team is in the Wells Uniform, except for Leeta in her hot pants and the Orion Diplomacy Boff in the Temporal Jumpsuit. Some uniform consistency. Maybe we need a Privateer Faction and everybody can dress up in the Mercenary Outfits. ;)


    I must admit, it's hard to find good reasons why her clothes can't be customized. I think all my photonic boffs can't be customized, come to think of it.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    fevee wrote: »
    Well I don't want her to be Leeta anymore, anyways. Again, I'd rather just dismiss her, since she's not doing anything to contribute to the crew. Can't it just be a Female Photonic BOFF? I'd like someone official to come in here and explain why it'd be such a big deal to customize her. Honestly, she's just creepy and sticks out like a sore thumb.

    Well, if Cryptic ever makes "Generic Female Photonic BOFF," they'll surely make her customizable. In the meantime, we have Holo-Leeta. Again, it's a "big deal" because she's an established character, whose actress likeness Cryptic had to pay to use. Once again, another example of Cryptic giving something away for free and people complaining. :confounded:
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  • jimmyroebuckjimmyroebuck Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    ltminns wrote: »
    One of my Character's Away Team is in the Wells Uniform, except for Leeta in her hot pants and the Orion Diplomacy Boff in the Temporal Jumpsuit. Some uniform consistency. Maybe we need a Privateer Faction and everybody can dress up in the Mercenary Outfits. ;)


    I must admit, it's hard to find good reasons why her clothes can't be customized. I think all my photonic boffs can't be customized, come to think of it.

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    Yes....

    Leaving the facial features alone for preservation is more than understandable however, as I said earlier, there is -NO LOGICAL- reason why garments can not be modified and altered to fit one's own uniform (clothing) structure on board thier ships for these; Androids, Aliens and Holographic base representations thereof besides, being photonic, it should be a snap:)

    If there is an exception to the above, it would be the Photonic TOS Enterprise Crew, and that's a maybe, since there are varations to thier dress-code as well, that include the; (TOS, TMP, etc...time periods). Now, maybe a limited change to thier (TOS) apparel to cover those time period bases would be in order here!


    Pet Peeve:
    A side note - Conserning unifom dress; When you have extra members beam down or interact with your crew, it would be nice if they also match the style and era of clothing of your main crew.

    Case and Point - if I and my crew are running around in TOS time period clothing in a constitution class ship, to say the least, then the crew who beam down to help should be in TOS time period uniforms as well -

    I realize this is more programming required type of a solution but as I said, just a pet peeve.

    Thanks Cryptic, for at least reading, as well as, considering these points and requests!
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    fevee wrote: »
    Well I don't want her to be Leeta anymore, anyways. Again, I'd rather just dismiss her, since she's not doing anything to contribute to the crew. Can't it just be a Female Photonic BOFF? I'd like someone official to come in here and explain why it'd be such a big deal to customize her. Honestly, she's just creepy and sticks out like a sore thumb.

    Well, if Cryptic ever makes "Generic Female Photonic BOFF," they'll surely make her customizable. In the meantime, we have Holo-Leeta. Again, it's a "big deal" because she's an established character, whose actress likeness Cryptic had to pay to use. Once again, another example of Cryptic giving something away for free and people complaining. :confounded:

    Indeed.

    Though there is the bit where we can chose wither Leeta in her dabo costume, or Leeta in her Terran Starfleet uniform.
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