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I'm interested in how the players liked each of the seasons in general. Rank all seasons 1-10. After 100 votes or so, I will compile the data and post a bar graph of the rankings.
Instructions: to clarify the ranking system, 1 = Gre'thor fodder and 10 = The Nexus. Here's a template response:
season 1: n/a (write n/a if you didn't play that season)
season 2: 8
season 3: 7
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Season descriptions (from http://sto.gamepedia.com/Template:Seasons)
Season 1: Common Ground PvP, new fleet actions, more customization options
Season 2: Ancient Enemies Level cap increase (40-50), Tier 5 ships, new content (Undine Advance, Klingon Sector, Diplomacy missions)
Season 3: Genesis The Foundry (Beta), Sector Space graphics revamp
Season 4: Crossfire Ground combat revamp, UI update, revamp of First City
Season 5: Call to Arms Defera Adventure Zone, Duty Officer system, skill revamp and STF overhaul
Season 6: Under Siege Fleet Advancement System (including fleet ships and missions), Nukara Adventure Zone
Season 7: New Romulus New Romulus Adventure Zone, Reputation System and Tau Dewa Sector Block
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: Legacy of Romulus Playable Romulan faction (with its own ships, missions and hubs), Klingon missions for levels 1-20, Nimbus Adventure Zone, UI revamp, New equipment slot: Warp Core
Season 8: The Sphere New enemy (the Voth) and Dyson Joint Command reputation faction, Dyson Sphere Space Adventure Zone & Ground Battlezone
Season 8.5: 4th Anniversary with new Feature Mission, Klingon War revamp, starship switching mechanics
Season 9: A New Accord New Feature Mission advancing timeline to 2410, Space Battlezone, Borg Advance revamp, revamp of Reputation System, 8472 Counter-Command reputation faction, Traits & Kits
Season 9.5: Crafting revamp
Delta Rising Expansion: Delta Rising Level cap increase (50-60), Tier 6 ships, Mk XIII-XIV gear (Gear Upgrade System), addition of Delta Quadrant, Captain Specialization system, Delta Alliance reputation faction and Kobali adventure zone
Mid-season update: Command Specialization, Bridge Officer training revamp, Secondary Deflectors, Romulan Mystery arc revamp, Foundry Top 3
Season 10: The Iconian War New enemy (the Heralds), Iconian Resistance reputation faction, expanded Pilot specialization and complete overhaul of Sector Space into Alpha, Beta, and Delta Quadrants
Season 10.5: Fleet Research Lab, Fleet Armada System
Season 11: New Dawn Beginning of new major story arc, Admiralty System, Cardassian Struggle revamp, Badlands Battlezone, Terran Task Force reputation faction
Season 11.5: Skill system revamp, Visual Slots, Romulan Republic Admiralty campaign, Strategist Specialization
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: Agents Of Yesterday New TOS Federation playable faction, Yesterday's War arc, Temporal Operative Specialization, Temporal Defense Initiative reputation faction
Agents Of Yesterday: Artifacts Fleet Station K-13, Kit revamp, graphics and lighting update, beginning of new major story arc
Season 12: Reckoning New enemy (the Tzenkethi), Tzenkethi Battlezone, Kits and Modules R&D School, Lukari Restoration Initiative reputation
Season 13: Escalation Competitive Wargames reputation, Space Skill rebalance, Player Potential System
Edit: 18 votes graph
Instructions: to clarify the ranking system, 1 = Gre'thor fodder and 10 = The Nexus. Here's a template response:
season 1: n/a (write n/a if you didn't play that season)
season 2: 8
season 3: 7
...
Season descriptions (from http://sto.gamepedia.com/Template:Seasons)
Season 1: Common Ground PvP, new fleet actions, more customization options
Season 2: Ancient Enemies Level cap increase (40-50), Tier 5 ships, new content (Undine Advance, Klingon Sector, Diplomacy missions)
Season 3: Genesis The Foundry (Beta), Sector Space graphics revamp
Season 4: Crossfire Ground combat revamp, UI update, revamp of First City
Season 5: Call to Arms Defera Adventure Zone, Duty Officer system, skill revamp and STF overhaul
Season 6: Under Siege Fleet Advancement System (including fleet ships and missions), Nukara Adventure Zone
Season 7: New Romulus New Romulus Adventure Zone, Reputation System and Tau Dewa Sector Block
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: Legacy of Romulus Playable Romulan faction (with its own ships, missions and hubs), Klingon missions for levels 1-20, Nimbus Adventure Zone, UI revamp, New equipment slot: Warp Core
Season 8: The Sphere New enemy (the Voth) and Dyson Joint Command reputation faction, Dyson Sphere Space Adventure Zone & Ground Battlezone
Season 8.5: 4th Anniversary with new Feature Mission, Klingon War revamp, starship switching mechanics
Season 9: A New Accord New Feature Mission advancing timeline to 2410, Space Battlezone, Borg Advance revamp, revamp of Reputation System, 8472 Counter-Command reputation faction, Traits & Kits
Season 9.5: Crafting revamp
Delta Rising Expansion: Delta Rising Level cap increase (50-60), Tier 6 ships, Mk XIII-XIV gear (Gear Upgrade System), addition of Delta Quadrant, Captain Specialization system, Delta Alliance reputation faction and Kobali adventure zone
Mid-season update: Command Specialization, Bridge Officer training revamp, Secondary Deflectors, Romulan Mystery arc revamp, Foundry Top 3
Season 10: The Iconian War New enemy (the Heralds), Iconian Resistance reputation faction, expanded Pilot specialization and complete overhaul of Sector Space into Alpha, Beta, and Delta Quadrants
Season 10.5: Fleet Research Lab, Fleet Armada System
Season 11: New Dawn Beginning of new major story arc, Admiralty System, Cardassian Struggle revamp, Badlands Battlezone, Terran Task Force reputation faction
Season 11.5: Skill system revamp, Visual Slots, Romulan Republic Admiralty campaign, Strategist Specialization
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: Agents Of Yesterday New TOS Federation playable faction, Yesterday's War arc, Temporal Operative Specialization, Temporal Defense Initiative reputation faction
Agents Of Yesterday: Artifacts Fleet Station K-13, Kit revamp, graphics and lighting update, beginning of new major story arc
Season 12: Reckoning New enemy (the Tzenkethi), Tzenkethi Battlezone, Kits and Modules R&D School, Lukari Restoration Initiative reputation
Season 13: Escalation Competitive Wargames reputation, Space Skill rebalance, Player Potential System
Edit: 18 votes graph
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Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: n/a
Season 6: 8
Season 7: 9
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 9
Season 8: 5
Season 8.5: 6
Season 9: 4 EDIT -2 for Trait system improvement
Season 9.5: 8
Delta Rising Expansion: 7
Mid-season update: 6
Season 10: 6
Season 10.5: 7
Season 11: 9 EDIT +2 for Trait system improvement
Season 11.5: 7
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 6
Agents Of Yesterday: 7
Season 12: 5
Season 13: 5
Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: 8 (I'm counting free to play launch since that's when I joined here.)
Season 6: 9
Season 7: 9
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 9
Season 8.5: 9
Season 9: 9
Season 9.5: 7
Delta Rising Expansion: 10
Mid-season update: 9
Season 10: 10
Season 10.5: 10
Season 11: 8
Season 11.5: 7
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 7
Agents Of Yesterday: 8
Season 12: 7
Season 13: 6
Season 2: 5
Season 3: 4
Season 4: 4
Season 5: 5
Season 6: 7
Season 7: 9
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 8
Season 8.5: 6
Season 9: 5
Season 9.5: 5
Delta Rising Expansion: 10 - Best Expansion Ever
Mid-season update: 6
Season 10: 3
Season 10.5: 3
Season 11: 5
Season 11.5: 4
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 8
Agents Of Yesterday: 8
Season 12: 5
Season 13: 3
Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: n/a
Season 6: 9
Season 7: 10
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 9
Season 8.5: 9
Season 9: 9
Season 9.5: 7
Delta Rising Expansion: 0 (It was that bad)
Mid-season update: 4
Season 10: 7
Season 10.5: 7
Season 11: 7
Season 11.5: 0 (Just as pathetic as TRIBBLE Rising)
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 7
Agents Of Yesterday: 9
Season 12: 9
Season 13: 0 ( Again, Still not liking this)
2) na
3) na
4) 5? I consider these early seasons a second beta period really
5) 10 (doffing)
6) 8 (Nukara was fun back in the day, fleet starbases introduced)
7 + LoR) 10 all day
8) 6 (Voth BZ is fun but Im not a fan of the story missions)
9) 7 (standard seasonal stuffs but got points for crafting system the old one blew)
10) 999 (best ever and we loved it)
11) 8 (admiralty restored my faith in having alts)
12/aoy) 10 (HUGE TOS fan)
13) 6 (it just is I suppose nothing incredible)
Season 1: n/a
Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: 7
Season 6: 5
Season 7: 5
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 9
Season 8: 4
Season 8.5: 4
Season 9: 8
Season 9.5: 3
Delta Rising Expansion: 2
Mid-season update: 3
Season 10: 5
Season 10.5: 4
Season 11: 5
Season 11.5: 6
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 10
Agents Of Yesterday: 10
Season 12: 6
Season 13: 4
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
S2 N/A
S3 N/A
S4 N/A
S5 N/A
S6 8.5
S7 9.0
LOR 10.0
S8 8.5
S8.5 6.3
S9 7.5
9.5 2.1
DR 0.1
S10 4.3
S10.5 7.8
S11 3.1
S11.5 2.2
AoY E 10.0
AoY A 10.0
S12 5.2
S13 1.5
Thats how i rate them
9.5: 5
DR: 10
Mid: 8
10: 9
10.5: 7
11: 9
11.5: 5
12: 10
12.5: 6
13: 9
13.5: 6
It's a rather low sample. Maybe you could repeat this on reddit and see what they say?
Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: 9
Season 6: 9
Season 7: 10
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 9
Season 8.5: 8
Season 9: 8.5
Season 9.5: 8
Delta Rising Expansion: 5
Mid-season update: 7.5
Season 10: 6.5
Season 10.5: 7.5
Season 11: 7.5
Season 11.5: 6
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 7
Agents Of Yesterday: 9
Season 12: 5.5
Season 13: 6
Season 2: 5
Season 3: 8 (because of the Foundry)
Season 4: 5
Season 5: 6
Season 6: 4
Season 7: 10
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 8
Season 8.5: 8
Season 9: 8
Season 9.5: 8
Delta Rising Expansion: 9
Mid-season update: 8
Season 10: 9
Season 10.5: 6
Season 11: 9
Season 11.5: 8
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 9
Agents Of Yesterday: 9
Season 12: 10
Season 13: 8
Its far from clear to me that the layers of complexity post season 6 improved the game in terms of more fun to actually go out and shoot stuff in queues and pvp. For example the introduction of roms was great solo content and probably the best open world type space the game will get, but flooded pvp with cloaked ships and accelerated the buying ships culture with the big rom pack. Similar goes for delta-rising, having great missions, interesting mechanics but another round of ship buying and damage to pvp plus that ridiculous level grind.
I'd say most the seasons at around a 6, LoR at a 10 and AoY at a solid 8, I didn't think I'd care at all about AoY but enjoyed the TRIBBLE outta it, the main detractor was the fact that it was Fed only and Rom's where hurtin hard for anything in my eyes at the time
Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: n/a
Season 6: n/a
Season 7: n/a
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 8
Season 8.5: 7
Season 9: 8
Season 9.5: 3
Delta Rising Expansion: 0 -the upgrade system is too expensive (even for a whale, poor casual players); + the missions are really crappy
Mid-season update: 2
Season 10: 3 - the iconians are so pitiful, the end of this arc is a shame
Season 10.5: 4
Season 11: 5
Season 11.5: 6
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 9
Agents Of Yesterday: 9
Season 12: 6
Season 13: 4
IMO this MMO used to be so much better in every sense among Season 1 to Delta Expansion.
PVP was alive and at times buggy but doable. The golden days of the PvP league were just before DR launched, not as much waiting on PvE maps and random awards for doing reputation...YES "random" not guaranteed rewards as it is now. Heck it was like a kid excited to open a Xmas present everytime you finished a PvE. The emphasis was to some degree on design and players. Even the CMs were really involved in "talking" to the community. One could create foundry missions that could be repeated with easy rewards as straight EC/Dilithium/fleet marks...now all nerfed rewards to oblivion or non existent from foundry.
Unfortunate for those who were only here post Delta Expansion you missed that a perspective.
Definitely not the same MMO as it was started and now the emphasis lies mostly on the mighty $$$, lockboxes and R&D packs as major income for this game.
For this time I will. It was the worst thing to happen and we lost a lot of people as a result of it. I don't care how everyone else ranks the other seasons, but Delta Rising was the worst.
Season 2: n/a
Season 3: n/a
Season 4: n/a
Season 5: n/a
Season 6: n/a
Season 7: 10
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 10
Season 8.5: 8
Season 9: 10
Season 9.5: 7
Delta Rising Expansion: 8
Mid-season update: 6
Season 10: 8
Season 10.5: 6
Season 11: 9
Season 11.5: 7
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 4 (absolutely nothing for Romulan and Klingon players - not even a full Temporal Ship (except for "Galactic Union" Starfleet ones....)
Agents Of Yesterday: 6
Season 12: 7 (I was really looking forward to Tzenkethi. While the mission was amazing, bugs in the space battlezone and the lack of ground battlezone were quite a letdown.)
Season 13: 3 (I can't believe this was called a season. Only one episode, in what, last 3 months? I miss the Iconian War arc where we got a new one every month. New queues were fun but they were killed when Competitive Marks were added to Red Alerts and Mirror Invasion)
Season 2: 6
Season 3: 7
Season 4: 8.5
Season 5: 7.5
Season 6: 7
Season 7: 8.5
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: The 10est of 10s
Season 8: 7.5
Season 8.5: 7
Season 9: 6.5
Season 9.5: 5
Delta Rising Expansion: 4
Mid-season update: 7.5
Season 10: 6.5
Season 10.5: 6
Season 11: 7.5
Season 11.5: 6
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: The 9est of 9s
Agents Of Yesterday: Artifacts 8
Season 12: 7
Season 13: 5
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I absolutely hate the drip-feeding of missions we've had since then: play a new mission once a week and wait what seems like a couple of months for the next one, while seasons get shorter and shorter.
AoY was an improvement but it's about time we had another full expansion where we can play a mission and not have to wait god knows how long for the next one. That's without me donning my cynicism hat and wondering out loud about how many lockboxes were crammed into Future Proof.
Season 2: N/A
Season 3: N/A
Season 4: N/A
Season 5: 7 First season playing, still learning the game, lots of research into the skill system
Season 6: 8 Well built characters and upper level ships. Am living in the STF's, got most of the gear
Season 7: 6 not impressed with new rep system. Rom adventure zone gets old FAST
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 5 Klingon missions were about the only thing I noticed, PvP dying, mines killed my interest
Season 8: 8 Voth zones are a blast (tho the dinosaurs are the stupidest sh*t even in STO)
Season 8.5: 0 not pleased with rolling KDF into feds. I STILL don't use the silly ship switching whatever
Season 9: 4 meh, not even remembering this season.
Season 9.5: -1 why the fek did they think the crafting system needed to get borked ? grind,grind,grind
Delta Rising Expansion: 1 So much un-needed fluff added I spent more time on the forums than playing
Mid-season update: 1 more mission reworks that werent needed. Still trying to keep PvP alive but it's in ICU
Season 10: 5 map revamp was cool, and Iconian arc was nice addition to a stagnant mission list
Season 10.5: 1 umm, what ? more grinding and a new bottomless resource pit ?
Season 11: 3 am not sure I even played this yet, and admirality is a pretty meh sidegame
Season 11.5: -10 disaster. left game is disgust. PvP dead, 5+ seasons building PvP toon wasted.
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: N/A Only played in the winter zone
Agents Of Yesterday: N/A returned just long enough to get skrewed out of a T-5 ship z-store givaway
Season 12: 2 spent more time researching new skill system, built 1 toon since then-
Season 13: 1 toon nuked again. PvP revamp was a joke, just grinding battlesones for rep.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Agreed. I generally believe the time from Season 6 to just before Delta Rising was this game's prime. I watched a video that took place during Season 6 I believe. The player pulled up the zone list and there had to be 15 zones of around 70 people. I don't think it even comes close to that at ESD now. Not to mention the fact that the PvP queues were alive even at low levels. Now you barely can get a game going at end game.
Other than Red Alerts/Crystal Entity and ISA which pop slower than pre-season 13, trying to get any other STF to pop in the public queues is like pulling teeth.
All 3 Vintage Borg Space used to pop fairly quickly ISA/KSA and CSA. Now KSA and CSA are a pain to get a pug going.
I spent 2hrs yesterday queued for a Binary Circuit Elite, When it finally did pop I got taunted with Map cancelled as not enough people accepted their invite 4 times before finally getting into the map. I swear this is the current fad to troll people. Get it nearly everytime I queue for something.
1hr this morning for Miner Instabilities and didn't pop.
Getting so pissed off with waiting to play the game i'm considering asking Cryptic to just add every type of mark at CCA/ISA drop rates to Borg Red Alerts, they are about the only STF I can actually guarantee queuing up and playing.
You could say use private channels. I'm part of DPS 10-75K and tbh they are pretty much dead as well.
All I want to do is play and I can't because it feels like there's no one else around to play with
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
Season 2: 10
Season 3: 10
Season 4: 9
Season 5: 9
Season 6: 8
Season 7: 9
Legacy of Romulus Expansion: 10
Season 8: 2
Season 8.5: 1
Season 9: 0
Season 9.5: 0
Delta Rising Expansion: 0 (if I could -100)
Mid-season update: 2
Season 10: 5
Season 10.5: 2
Season 11: 1
Season 11.5: 0
Agents of Yesterday Expansion: 0 (if I could -10000000000000000000000000000 WORST EVER!)
Agents Of Yesterday: Artifacts 0
Season 12: 3
Season 13: 0
Season 13.5: 0
Sorry for those who did not see GLORIOUS seasons of the past. Yes it used to much better than now.