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Please allow claim of admiralty cards without having to commission ships.

It gets a bit old juggling available ship slots, dry dock and then having to discharge ships after claiming them from the event tab or c-store, just to build up your admiralty deck on an alt etc.

Oh, btw it's not cool that alts that aren't the same faction as your main character have to buy the same ships again just to claim the admiralty cards. If there's any way the above could be implemented, it would an alt-friendly idea to allow reclaim of the admiralty card for the equivalent kdf/rom ships, where an equivalent ship exists.

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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    koppster wrote: »
    ...Oh, btw it's not cool that alts that aren't the same faction as your main character have to buy the same ships again just to claim the admiralty cards...

    What ships did you have to re-buy? C-Store ships are all account unlocks.​​
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    koppster wrote: »
    ...Oh, btw it's not cool that alts that aren't the same faction as your main character have to buy the same ships again just to claim the admiralty cards...

    What ships did you have to re-buy? C-Store ships are all account unlocks.​​

    This. My FedRom had no problems claiming c-store Fed ships they were allowed to have.

    Though Klingons can't buy any Fed ships at all.

    Also, it's not that much trouble to claim/dismiss ships. Yes, it could take time, depending on the number of ships I can claim at one time. Especially through the rep reclaim store.

    Still, it's time well spent.

    This sounds like the posters who don't want to do Flying High in order to claim their Event ship.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,032 Community Moderator
    edited June 2017
    I support this 100%. We need a Tab, somewhere, like the recently added Trait claim tab, to claim Admiralty Cards for ships that have been commissioned anywhere on an account without needing to re-commission the ship on another character. In fact, all C-Store ship Admiralty cards, regardless of Faction affilation, should be claimable account wide across all characters, regardless of Faction affiliation, on an account. KDF and ROM characters having access to FED Admiralty cards would go a long way to helping alleviate their lack of Science focused ships.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    Now that does makes sense. Let them claim admiralty cards but not the ships.
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    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,032 Community Moderator
    edited June 2017
    echatty wrote: »
    Now that does makes sense. Let them claim admiralty cards but not the ships.

    Exactly. The Admiralty Cards, not the ships. This wouldn't apply to Lock Box, Lobi, or Dilithium ships, just C-Store ships. It might actually encourage more cross Faction sales.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Absolutely 100% support this. I would even prefer that once a ship is purchased from the C-Store, it automatically adds those Admiralty cards to all characters on the account.

    Really, it is a pain when you get a new alt leveled to then have to claim & then dismiss every ship you've bought over the years just to get the cards.
  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    I see the lengthly claim/discharge experience to be immersive. It shows that being an Admiral sometimes involves "paperwork" and "boring desk job stuff".

    I cannot support a change to the system at this time.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    Regardless of my question earlier, I also do support the ability to claim an Admiralty card without taking the ship. However, I still do want to know which ships the OP had to re-purchase.​​
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

    The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    You 'repurchase' them in the C-store for free. It's not the Zen cost, it's the time cost with which the OP has issue.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,032 Community Moderator
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

    The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.

    By the time you have access to Admiralty, storyline-wise, we're all in the Alliance together. Giving orders to other Faction ships is not beyond reason in a joint operations environment.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

    The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.
    Did you miss the iconian war, where the KDF dude was giving orders to everyone? Your origin story doesn't matter.

    Except I want to claim the ships, too. Not just admiralty card.

    And clothes. Especially clothes.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    koppster wrote: »
    ...Oh, btw it's not cool that alts that aren't the same faction as your main character have to buy the same ships again just to claim the admiralty cards...

    What ships did you have to re-buy? C-Store ships are all account unlocks.​​


    What I think he said, was, that it's annoying to reclaim a ship from C-Store, and having to commission it first, only to discharge it immediately, just to get the card. So, I think what he meant was, Why not just let us claim the Admiralty card directly? (As the system already knows we have access to it)
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    brian334 wrote: »
    You 'repurchase' them in the C-store for free. It's not the Zen cost, it's the time cost with which the OP has issue.


    Not really. It also means you need to have at least 1 free ship slot handy (and, if not, do a convoluted drydock/commission/discharge/undrydock cycle). Just let us claim the card directly already.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

    The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.
    Did you miss the iconian war, where the KDF dude was giving orders to everyone? Your origin story doesn't matter.

    Except I want to claim the ships, too. Not just admiralty card.

    And clothes. Especially clothes.

    you can be L60 and still not do those storylines...

    can you on your fed toon go and buy kdf ships? can your rom toon buy T5 and above faction ships? nuff said.

  • koppsterkoppster Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    What ships did you have to re-buy? C-Store ships are all account unlocks.

    If you have a non-fed aligned Rom alt, or the alt is a Klink, if you've bought say, an Arbiter battlecruiser on your fed main, having opted for a single ship purchase rather than buying the cross-faction pack, you would then have to buy the Kurak/Morrigu to claim the exact same stat admiralty card on your faction alt.

    Now you could riposte with, "serves you right for being a cheapskate", but Zen costs money, unless you're a rabid dil farmer and play the market and I imagine a lot of players don't see themselves rolling alts, but change their mind down the road, as I did.

    My argument is I forked out for that ship and I indeed have no problem not getting the actual different faction ship variant for free, but the Admiralty system is just a mini-game and the current system seems unfairly punitive in that respect. We should be able to claim the CARD for the ship for what is, in essence, a minor, albeit incredibly useful, part of the game. There's a greater issue here also with regards to Lobi ships. 900 Lobi is no laughing matter, but I'll only ever get the card on the character I unlocked that ship on. Bah!

    I myself have played STO on and off since day 1. I'm a lifer also. In that time, I have spent a very significant amount of money/dil on ship purchases on my fed main. What happens if, down the road (likely to happen) we get a 4th faction? Say I go to level my spanking new Cardassian(!) alt and I get to 52. Damn, I'm sol. Gl gaining spec points and levels through admiralty when you have half a dozen cards to your name, unless you decide to spend megabucks on new ships.

    It's also a quality-of-life issue. Some people, indeed there are some judging by replies, might enjoy devoting loads of time to building their decks through rsi-inducing clickfests of claim/commission/dry dock/discharge/repeat, but I don't. Wouldn't be that hard to implement surely?
  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,450 Arc User
    It would be nice if we could have Admiralty Cards slotted at the time we requisition our ships at the low levels. By the time Admiralty is unlocked at level 52, we could have all of the ships we have leveled up with, and all the ships we have claimed from all other sources already taken care of.

    Like the Doff system, you can start adding Doffs to your roster (Not to Active Ground/Space, mind you) before you even unlock the Doff system at level 11.
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  • daciaeternadaciaeterna Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    This is one hell of a great ideea. Had to do this on 4 new toons and it was a nightmare. This game is becoming better in better from many points of view and such a feature will only add to this.
    I support this 100%.
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    • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
      It would be nice if we could have Admiralty Cards slotted at the time we requisition our ships at the low levels. By the time Admiralty is unlocked at level 52, we could have all of the ships we have leveled up with, and all the ships we have claimed from all other sources already taken care of.

      Like the Doff system, you can start adding Doffs to your roster (Not to Active Ground/Space, mind you) before you even unlock the Doff system at level 11.

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    • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
      I still have four or five Characters that only have the ships they have in the Ship Selector. They have not been fully set up for Admiralty even after two years. I just haven't gotten around to claiming all the ships they have access to.

      It can take me well over an hour to claim and dismiss all the ships I own or have access to. I own all the Event Ships, all the C-Store ships, Promotion Ships, or Admiralty Cards, a bunch of Fleet Ships, and Lockbox Ships. I also claim all level up Ships that I have not already taken.

      I usually save the 'U.S.S. ' or 'I.K.S. ' so I can paste them into the Delete dialog box when dismissing the ships to save some time. Then you also have to be cognizant of the lag in the Admiralty Card showing up.

      It is a bit of a PITA but does give me a plethora of options in running Admiralty Assignments multiple times a day.
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    • shadowwraith#9264 shadowwraith Member Posts: 379 Arc User
      tigeraries wrote: »
      Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

      The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.

      by the time you get to that stage your faction becomes irrelevant since you are already receiving orders from npcs of other factions (most are well below your rank) especially in the delta, dyson, romulan and undine rep areas.

      outside of the game it does make sense since notable characters in the startrek shows have commanded ships of other factions, especially in ds9 (Worf, Dukat, Enabran Tain and Sisko)
      • Draal - FED, Saurian, LV60 - TAC
      • Mirak - FED 23c, Vulkan, LV60 - TAC
      • Ascaran Bloodclaw - KDF, Gorn, Lv18 - TAC
      • Melchiah - KDF, Gorn, LV60 - TAC
      • Ne'roon - KDF,Lethian, L60, TAC
      • Turel - ROM-KDF, Reman, 30, TAC
      • Elric - ROM-Fed, Romulan, L60, TAC
      • Richtor Belmont - FED 23c, Human,LV20, SCI
      • G'Kar - KDF, Gorn, L10

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    • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
      tigeraries wrote: »
      warpangel wrote: »
      tigeraries wrote: »
      Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

      The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.
      Did you miss the iconian war, where the KDF dude was giving orders to everyone? Your origin story doesn't matter.

      Except I want to claim the ships, too. Not just admiralty card.

      And clothes. Especially clothes.

      you can be L60 and still not do those storylines...

      can you on your fed toon go and buy kdf ships? can your rom toon buy T5 and above faction ships? nuff said.
      You should be able to. Nuff said.
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    • shadowwraith#9264 shadowwraith Member Posts: 379 Arc User
      tigeraries wrote: »
      Does NOT make sense... your a fed admiral and your giving orders to KDF ships to do missions? and vice versa?

      The account unlock should be ok but it needs to be restricted by faction... roms can claim their factions T1 to T4 ships, but nothing higher since that's how it is in game.

      since we are talking about admirality cards, your character already gets the USS Rhode island, IKS Hegh and RRW Zdenia when your character reaches level 10 admirality in the respective faction regardless of your characters faction.
      • Draal - FED, Saurian, LV60 - TAC
      • Mirak - FED 23c, Vulkan, LV60 - TAC
      • Ascaran Bloodclaw - KDF, Gorn, Lv18 - TAC
      • Melchiah - KDF, Gorn, LV60 - TAC
      • Ne'roon - KDF,Lethian, L60, TAC
      • Turel - ROM-KDF, Reman, 30, TAC
      • Elric - ROM-Fed, Romulan, L60, TAC
      • Richtor Belmont - FED 23c, Human,LV20, SCI
      • G'Kar - KDF, Gorn, L10

      USS Sharlin NCC79713 B (part of sheridans access code) - T6, Hestia Class Advanced Escort
      USS Babylon IV - T6 Krenim Science Vessel
      USS Brakiri - T6 Elachi Escort
      270?cb=20061004071055
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