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Is every season going to be about time travel now?

binkleyboy#3920 binkleyboy
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Pretty simple question. Once Cryptic opened the 'pandora's box' of making the players temporal agents, does that mean pretty much every season and story arc is going to be about time travel now?

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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    Your second future past self will have known the answer 2 weeks ago in the future.
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  • discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    If you don't like time travel, then Star Trek is probably not the franchise for you. It's a pretty integral part of it, even before the Temporal Cold War of Enterprise
  • binkleyboy#3920 binkleyboy
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    edited April 2017
    discojer wrote: »
    If you don't like time travel, then Star Trek is probably not the franchise for you. It's a pretty integral part of it, even before the Temporal Cold War of Enterprise

    What is with people these days? You don't have to not like something just to ask a question. I never said I didn't like time travel. But just because I may like something does not mean I want it all the time.

    Plus, your comment about time travel being "integral" to Trek is flawed. Yes, Trek definitely has time travel in it. Not denying that. But you have to learn to math.

    There are 703 episodes of Star Trek. (725 if you count TAS)

    Now, if we add up all the episodes of the main series, and TAS, and the movies that have time travel, guess how many there are?

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Time_travel_episodes

    57. That's 57 out 703 episodes (725 counting TAS) and movies.

    That is roughly 8%.

    So no, time travel is not an "integral" part of Trek. It's in Trek about 8% of the time.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    binkleyboy#3920 wrote: »
    discojer wrote: »
    If you don't like time travel, then Star Trek is probably not the franchise for you. It's a pretty integral part of it, even before the Temporal Cold War of Enterprise

    What is with people these days? You don't have to not like something just to ask a question. I never said I didn't like time travel. But just because I may like something does not mean you want it all the time.

    Anyway, your comment about time travel being "integral" to Trek is flawed. Yes, Trek definitely has time travel in it. Not denying that. However, math is math.

    There are 703 episodes of Star Trek. (725 counting TAS)

    Now, if we add up all the episodes of the main series, and TAS, and the movies that have time travel, guess how many there are?

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Time_travel_episodes

    57. That's 57 episodes out of 703 episodes (725 counting TAS) and a dozen movies.

    That is roughly 8%.

    So drop the whole "time travel is integral to Trek" thing. Yeah, Trek has time travel in it. About 8% of it's stories.
    Well, considering Tellarites only appeared 15 times in all Star Trek, that the Kelvin Timeline only appeared in 3 and soon 4 "episodes", that, excluding Worf and B'Elanna, Klingons have only appeared in 123 episodes, that Khan only appeared in 3 episodes and that Earth itself properly appeared in 60 episodes... I don't think quantity is good enough to say if an element is integral to Star Trek or not.
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  • binkleyboy#3920 binkleyboy
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    edited April 2017
    saurializard wrote: »
    binkleyboy#3920 wrote: »
    discojer wrote: »
    If you don't like time travel, then Star Trek is probably not the franchise for you. It's a pretty integral part of it, even before the Temporal Cold War of Enterprise

    What is with people these days? You don't have to not like something just to ask a question. I never said I didn't like time travel. But just because I may like something does not mean you want it all the time.

    Anyway, your comment about time travel being "integral" to Trek is flawed. Yes, Trek definitely has time travel in it. Not denying that. However, math is math.

    There are 703 episodes of Star Trek. (725 counting TAS)

    Now, if we add up all the episodes of the main series, and TAS, and the movies that have time travel, guess how many there are?

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Time_travel_episodes

    57. That's 57 episodes out of 703 episodes (725 counting TAS) and a dozen movies.

    That is roughly 8%.

    So drop the whole "time travel is integral to Trek" thing. Yeah, Trek has time travel in it. About 8% of it's stories.
    Well, considering Tellarites only appeared 15 times in all Star Trek, that the Kelvin Timeline only appeared in 3 and soon 4 "episodes", that, excluding Worf and B'Elanna, Klingons have only appeared in 123 episodes, that Khan only appeared in 3 episodes and that Earth itself properly appeared in 60 episodes... I don't think quantity is good enough to say if an element is integral to Star Trek or not.

    Fair point. Let's use your "Khan" example. Sure, he only made 3 appearances(counting Into Darkness), but he is one of the most iconic villains of Trek. I will grant you that.

    Now the question is: just because Khan is one of the most iconic villains, do you want him to be the main bad guy in every season going forward? If you do, that's cool. But I doubt most people would want the same thing all the time.

    So I will admit time travel may be an integral PART of Trek(among many others). Does that mean people want it to be the main focus of every season going forward?
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    binkleyboy#3920 wrote: »
    Does that mean people want it to be the main focus of every season going forward?
    That's not your first question. Your first question was and I quote:
    does that mean pretty much every season and story arc is going to be about time travel now?
    then, you went into answering with a positive by yourself and went with this second question.

    For your first question:
    What makes you think every new season has time travel as the MAIN focus? Because so far, after the Future Proof arc, that's not the case. There is still time travel involved sometimes and the fact you're a temporal agent means you can get future/past/alternate tech, but it's not the main reason of the seasons. So far, the current season is about fighting the Tzenkethi.

    Really, only 4 arcs are focused on time travel: Agents of Yesterday, Spectres, Yesterday's War and Future Proof and you could argue the last episodes of the Iconian War are focused on that.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    My guess is that this is just a one off. Allegedly from another forum poster, this mission (Survivor) was originally supposed to come out a lot earlier. We'll probably return to the Tzenkethi, and their rocks, soon.

    If I had to guess, the mission was originally not going to get finished in time for when it was supposed to be released, so someone finished it later. And now here it is.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    kjwashington wrote: »
    My guess is that this is just a one off. Allegedly from another forum poster, this mission (Survivor) was originally supposed to come out a lot earlier. We'll probably return to the Tzenkethi, and their rocks, soon.

    If I had to guess, the mission was originally not going to get finished in time for when it was supposed to be released, so someone finished it later. And now here it is.
    It's written almost like it should be part of Future Proof.
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    Yes
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  • rimmarierimmarie Member Posts: 418 Arc User
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    kjwashington wrote: »
    Allegedly from another forum poster, this mission (Survivor) was originally supposed to come out a lot earlier.
    Yes, I recall people had found Data relating to this mission all the way back before AoY even IIRC.

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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    The plot line for STO is stuck in a temporal anomaly. It'd take a Doctor with experience in wibbly wobbly to fix it.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    discojer wrote: »
    If you don't like time travel, then Star Trek is probably not the franchise for you. It's a pretty integral part of it, even before the Temporal Cold War of Enterprise

    Not really 'integral', imo. They did it every now and again, but it was usually a one-off adventure, not a season spanning story arc till ENT. And I do agree that Cryptic using time travel so heavily does make things annoying. Makes any meaningful story-lines hard to pull off. It's just too easy a crutch for writers 'we'll just go back in time and...'
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    binkleyboy#3920 wrote: »
    But just because I may like something does not mean I want it all the time.

    It's a natural product of plot threads that developed through the Iconian War. S11 and AOY dealt with the consequences. S12 connected those consequences to a new arc (Lukari/Tzenkethi) which isn't finished yet. Eventually Cryptic's going to move to something else, just as they've moved from every single arc they've ever worked on (for ex. we didn't stay in the Delta Quadrant even though several seasons were dedicated to getting us there and exploring it.)
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    nimbull wrote: »
    The plot line for STO is stuck in a temporal anomaly. It'd take a Doctor with experience in wibbly wobbly to fix it.
    ^^^^
    Well, before he died Kal Dano did fly what looked like (internally) a TARDIS. ;)
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    I'm with you on this one. I have been busy with RL for a while, returned to the game, and played through the episodes, but everything in my memory keeps merging in a never ending time shift without some real story plot. Perhaps this is my fault. But i miss some development :D
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,630 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    I would assume (but you know where that gets you) that 'Survivor' will be made part of the Yesterday's War floating arc, so it really isn't part of the current Lukari 'season'. That said...
    crashdragon wrote: »
    A season entirely aimed at finding Sulu.

    this ^ :D
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