It's really hard to miss that, with rare and minor exceptions, missions are completely linear and do not allow for alternative solutions.
There are a handful of missions where you're told you have to do one thing if a science officer, another if engineering, a third if tactical. But that doesn't even slightly change the flow of the mission.
Missions are so consistent about this that I have to assume it's a strongly-enforced official policy for mission design.
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Yeah, you do have the option to wait until the enemy things start shooting. Of course, there's a lot of missions where it doesn't make sense for peaceful resolution to be possible.
would be great if cryptic allowed us to scan/interact with things during combat even under heavy fire , in the TV shows there was numerous occasions in TNG, voyager and DS9 where the above happened during combat, hell even the use of transporters.
Draal - FED, Saurian, LV60 - TAC
Mirak - FED 23c, Vulkan, LV60 - TAC
Ascaran Bloodclaw - KDF, Gorn, Lv18 - TAC
Melchiah - KDF, Gorn, LV60 - TAC
Ne'roon - KDF,Lethian, L60, TAC
Turel - ROM-KDF, Reman, 30, TAC
Elric - ROM-Fed, Romulan, L60, TAC
Richtor Belmont - FED 23c, Human,LV20, SCI
G'Kar - KDF, Gorn, L10
USS Sharlin NCC79713 B (part of sheridans access code) - T6, Hestia Class Advanced Escort
USS Babylon IV - T6 Krenim Science Vessel
USS Brakiri - T6 Elachi Escort
"I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star."
"We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Yeah, you do have the option to wait until the enemy things start shooting. Of course, there's a lot of missions where it doesn't make sense for peaceful resolution to be possible.
Yes. "Survivor" is not one of them.
The tholian ships are trying to close the anomalies. They tell us not to interfere. There's no compelling reason we couldn't respond with "ok, no problem" and continue the mission as normal with the scanning of the third anomaly (which doesn't have a tholian ship near it) and beaming down to search the planet.
Of course, the tholians would still attack us when we find T'nae, but that's on them.
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Yeah, you do have the option to wait until the enemy things start shooting. Of course, there's a lot of missions where it doesn't make sense for peaceful resolution to be possible.
Yes. "Survivor" is not one of them.
The tholian ships are trying to close the anomalies. They tell us not to interfere. There's no compelling reason we couldn't respond with "ok, no problem" and continue the mission as normal with the scanning of the third anomaly (which doesn't have a tholian ship near it) and beaming down to search the planet.
Of course, the tholians would still attack us when we find T'nae, but that's on them.
Did you forget that our mission is to find the source of the anomalies? And that the Tholians won't even let us scan one?
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Yeah, you do have the option to wait until the enemy things start shooting. Of course, there's a lot of missions where it doesn't make sense for peaceful resolution to be possible.
Yes. "Survivor" is not one of them.
The tholian ships are trying to close the anomalies. They tell us not to interfere. There's no compelling reason we couldn't respond with "ok, no problem" and continue the mission as normal with the scanning of the third anomaly (which doesn't have a tholian ship near it) and beaming down to search the planet.
Of course, the tholians would still attack us when we find T'nae, but that's on them.
Did you forget that our mission is to find the source of the anomalies? And that the Tholians won't even let us scan one?
Did you read anything you quoted? As I said we could've just left the tholians alone and went for the unoccupied third anomaly. Which is the one we actually end up scanning in the end anyway, because the first two close when we shoot the tholians.
Nevermind we didn't even ask if they would let us scan the other ones, either.
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Yeah, you do have the option to wait until the enemy things start shooting. Of course, there's a lot of missions where it doesn't make sense for peaceful resolution to be possible.
Yes. "Survivor" is not one of them.
The tholian ships are trying to close the anomalies. They tell us not to interfere. There's no compelling reason we couldn't respond with "ok, no problem" and continue the mission as normal with the scanning of the third anomaly (which doesn't have a tholian ship near it) and beaming down to search the planet.
Of course, the tholians would still attack us when we find T'nae, but that's on them.
Did you forget that our mission is to find the source of the anomalies? And that the Tholians won't even let us scan one?
Did you read anything you quoted? As I said we could've just left the tholians alone and went for the unoccupied third anomaly. Which is the one we actually end up scanning in the end anyway, because the first two close when we shoot the tholians.
Nevermind we didn't even ask if they would let us scan the other ones, either.
The third anomaly didn't pop into existence until after the first two collapsed.... That's why it wasn't guarded by Tholians.... it didn't exist yet.
Someone might even, hail the enemy and use their diplomatic skills to convince the enemy to let them scan the thing in peace.
Picard: Hail them.
Data: No response, sir.
Worf: They're charging weapons!
Picard: Red Alert!
We don't even get that much. We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon. And we always at least try to talk out problems. But not in this game, it's shoot first and ask questions never.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
Yeah, you do have the option to wait until the enemy things start shooting. Of course, there's a lot of missions where it doesn't make sense for peaceful resolution to be possible.
Yes. "Survivor" is not one of them.
The tholian ships are trying to close the anomalies. They tell us not to interfere. There's no compelling reason we couldn't respond with "ok, no problem" and continue the mission as normal with the scanning of the third anomaly (which doesn't have a tholian ship near it) and beaming down to search the planet.
Of course, the tholians would still attack us when we find T'nae, but that's on them.
Did you forget that our mission is to find the source of the anomalies? And that the Tholians won't even let us scan one?
Did you read anything you quoted? As I said we could've just left the tholians alone and went for the unoccupied third anomaly. Which is the one we actually end up scanning in the end anyway, because the first two close when we shoot the tholians.
Nevermind we didn't even ask if they would let us scan the other ones, either.
The third anomaly didn't pop into existence until after the first two collapsed.... That's why it wasn't guarded by Tholians.... it didn't exist yet.
So wait for the tholians to close the first two, then.
That line of thought assumes we have some way of knowing that a third rift will open. Also if we did wait, then the Tholians would move to rift 3 since rifts 1 and 2 collapsed and now they have nothing better to do.
So that won't work for at least 2 reasons. Also, it's probable that the rifts destabilized because we were fighting near them.
I'm at the new mission right now, having entered the Pictae system and been told "Tolians here are new, they hate time travel (hey me too ) and its better to avoid them; Prisoners are on that planet over there". Cool for me; I avoid the Tolians, fly to the planet and hang in orbit doing nothing. Why?
Because the mission window tells me to shoot Tolians. Why? I don't want and according to the story told don't even need to. Even more so they probably deal with some time stuff of which I'm so fed up anyways that they could gladly nuke the entire system after I beamed up the prisoners.
*sigh*
Going to shoot the poor guys now to progress that.
edit:
Overall a nice mission with a surprising end sequence
As the man above said Tholians are quite xenophobic, and prefer shooting anyone not Tholian as opposed to negotiating usually.
They probably share a genetic marker or two with species 8472.
That line of thought assumes we have some way of knowing that a third rift will open. Also if we did wait, then the Tholians would move to rift 3 since rifts 1 and 2 collapsed and now they have nothing better to do.
So that won't work for at least 2 reasons. Also, it's probable that the rifts destabilized because we were fighting near them.
No, that line of thought assumes that if the anomalies were going to just go away and no new ones open, there would be no point in getting into a fight over the chance to scan one at all.
In fact we could have left the space anomalies to the tholians entirely and went straight for the planet and the people we were searching for.
That line of thought assumes we have some way of knowing that a third rift will open. Also if we did wait, then the Tholians would move to rift 3 since rifts 1 and 2 collapsed and now they have nothing better to do.
So that won't work for at least 2 reasons. Also, it's probable that the rifts destabilized because we were fighting near them.
No, that line of thought assumes that if the anomalies were going to just go away and no new ones open, there would be no point in getting into a fight over the chance to scan one at all.
In fact we could have left the space anomalies to the tholians entirely and went straight for the planet and the people we were searching for.
Right.... it's more likely that the Tholians would have sent away teams to hunt us down if we did somehow manage to beam down. Why? because that's what the crazy crystal spiders do.... do you really think the Tholians don't know that there are temporal anomalies on the planet? Of course they know. And they don't want us messing with those either.
That line of thought assumes we have some way of knowing that a third rift will open. Also if we did wait, then the Tholians would move to rift 3 since rifts 1 and 2 collapsed and now they have nothing better to do.
So that won't work for at least 2 reasons. Also, it's probable that the rifts destabilized because we were fighting near them.
No, that line of thought assumes that if the anomalies were going to just go away and no new ones open, there would be no point in getting into a fight over the chance to scan one at all.
In fact we could have left the space anomalies to the tholians entirely and went straight for the planet and the people we were searching for.
Right.... it's more likely that the Tholians would have sent away teams to hunt us down if we did somehow manage to beam down. Why? because that's what the crazy crystal spiders do.... do you really think the Tholians don't know that there are temporal anomalies on the planet? Of course they know. And they don't want us messing with those either.
The tholians sent away teams after us anyway.
All enemies always send away teams, blowing up their ships never stops them.
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There are a handful of missions where you're told you have to do one thing if a science officer, another if engineering, a third if tactical. But that doesn't even slightly change the flow of the mission.
Missions are so consistent about this that I have to assume it's a strongly-enforced official policy for mission design.
"We're Starfleet, we do not fire until fired upon" That is still an option we have. On my Starfleet chars I usually behave that way (in single-player missions).
My character Tsin'xing
USS Sharlin NCC79713 B (part of sheridans access code) - T6, Hestia Class Advanced Escort
USS Babylon IV - T6 Krenim Science Vessel
USS Brakiri - T6 Elachi Escort
"We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."
– Grey Council greeting
The tholian ships are trying to close the anomalies. They tell us not to interfere. There's no compelling reason we couldn't respond with "ok, no problem" and continue the mission as normal with the scanning of the third anomaly (which doesn't have a tholian ship near it) and beaming down to search the planet.
Of course, the tholians would still attack us when we find T'nae, but that's on them.
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Nevermind we didn't even ask if they would let us scan the other ones, either.
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So that won't work for at least 2 reasons. Also, it's probable that the rifts destabilized because we were fighting near them.
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As the man above said Tholians are quite xenophobic, and prefer shooting anyone not Tholian as opposed to negotiating usually.
They probably share a genetic marker or two with species 8472.
In fact we could have left the space anomalies to the tholians entirely and went straight for the planet and the people we were searching for.
My character Tsin'xing
All enemies always send away teams, blowing up their ships never stops them.
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