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I think all that we've seen in STO is too much to cram in 18 months. 18 months is supposed to be what? From when you graduate to the end of the Breen Arc? Then we have the Iconian war, which was bloody. I think we need to revise the timeline... could we not have a clock of sorts, that when you finish an arc, it advances? Account wide or whatever... so you know what year you're in.

This probably has been done to death...

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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,470 Arc User
    It was 18 months to Delta Recruits. We are beyond that now.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • flumfflumf Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    Video game devs have never really bothered to have coherent timelines, and as little sense as it may make cryptic have put more effort into theirs than most.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,914 Community Moderator
    Personally, I try to ignore the in-game time as it makes no sense to have all of that going on in a short 18 months* (Tutorial to Breen Arc end), and have the player character involved in every single event.

    If we assume the FED Tutorial takes place in February (the month the game launched) 2409, 18 months puts the end of the Breen Arc around July/August 2410. Although in-game "Cold Storage" is given to be in June 2410, backtracking 18 months would put the FED Tutorial around December 2408/January 2409.**

    I believe we are now in 2411 as of "Of Signs and Portents", but not sure when in 2411. Even so, you're talking about the entirety of post-Breen Arc, which includes fighting the Voth and Undine in the Dyson Sphere, the Delta Arc and fighting the Vaadwaur, the Iconian War and developing/building the Annorax along with all the temporal theories and testing that went along with it, taking place in the span of 6 months on the short side, 12 months if you're being generous, which of course would push many other events into 2411 as well.

    Trying to pin it all day can make your head hurt. And then it makes no sense for so much to happen in such a short time and still have your character involved in all of it.

    I head canon the year as 2417, with all of the events spread out from 2409 to 2417. It makes a lot more sense to me.

    *Although it's only a slightly longer timeframe for Romulans since their tutorial takes place prior to the FED Tutorial.

    **Depending upon when in the month it takes place.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,914 Community Moderator
    I think all that we've seen in STO is too much to cram in 18 months. 18 months is supposed to be what? From when you graduate to the end of the Breen Arc? Then we have the Iconian war, which was bloody. I think we need to revise the timeline... could we not have a clock of sorts, that when you finish an arc, it advances? Account wide or whatever... so you know what year you're in.

    This probably has been done to death...
    The game begins in January 2409, and the switch between 2409 and 2410 happens after the Romulan arc, but before the Cardassian arc, with the Cardassian, Breen, and Borg arcs taking up the first 6 months of 2410.

    According to a comment made by GECKO on Priority One Podcast, the newest mission, "Of Signs and Portents" takes place in 2411, meaning the year has changed again.

    At this rate
    -The Klingon War(20 missions which includes the Specters sub arc) = 180 days, or about 6 months
    -Yesterday's War(First 3 of 4 missions) = 27 days, aka, just under a month
    -Wasteland(6 missions) = 54 days, or nearly 2 months
    -Romulan Mystery + Cloaked Intentions(10 missions) = 90 days, aka 3 months
    -Cardassian Struggle + 2800(10 mission) = 90 days, aka 3 months
    -Breen Invasion(5 missions) = 45 days, aka 1.5 months
    -Borg Advance(5 missions) = 45 days, aka 1.5 months

    Which isn't that hard to believe given how often things happen in Trek.

    This would mean that Nukara, New Romulus, the Dyson Sphere, the Delta Quad, and the Iconian War, would round out the last 6 months of the year.
    If we assume the FED Tutorial takes place in February (the month the game launched) 2409, 18 months puts the end of the Breen Arc around July/August 2410. Although in-game "Cold Storage" is given to be in June 2410, backtracking 18 months would put the FED Tutorial around December 2408/January 2409.**
    I think you need to recheck your math there, because the game begins in January.

    1. January
    2. February
    3. March
    4. April
    5. May
    6. June
    7. July
    8. August
    9. September
    10. October
    11. November
    12. December
    13. January
    14. February
    15. March
    16. April
    17. May
    18. June

    18 months

    I did have a footnote that said **depending upon when in the month it takes place. January 2409 to June 2410 does fall within my margin of error, so I stand by my math, but will concede to agree with that timeframe for argument's sake.

    You seem to be using 9 days as a baseline for each mission. What is your basis for using that as the timeframe for your calculations? Not trying to start an argument, just genuinely interested. I know we've had this conversation before in other threads, I just cannot recall right now the particulars.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,914 Community Moderator
    @somtaawkhar

    OK, so you just went with the straight math. Cool. While that helps, I suppose, break things down, so one can attempt to pin down certain events to a particular timeframe, I couldn't logically see the events of, say, Wasteland actually taking 2 months.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,914 Community Moderator
    It just seems to me that, for example, the founding of New Romulus or the temporal theories/testing and building of the Annorax should've taken much longer than allowed by the game's timeline.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,914 Community Moderator
    75 days seems like an incredibly short amount of time to the master temporal mechanics involved with building and testing the Annorax. Especially since Annorax himself spent 200 years also trying to achieve a particular outcome with his temporal manipulations.
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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    75 days seems like an incredibly short amount of time to the master temporal mechanics involved with building and testing the Annorax. Especially since Annorax himself spent 200 years also trying to achieve a particular outcome with his temporal manipulations.

    With a time machine, you have all the time in the world.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    I thought the end of the Voth/Undine arc was when we switched from 09 to 10 ... Didn't it say "welcome to 2410" in the mission cut scene?
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    But isn't there a reference to 2409 in the New Romulus Arc (one of the rom rep missions) ... which takes place after the Breen/Borg Arc now?
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    I think all that we've seen in STO is too much to cram in 18 months. 18 months is supposed to be what? From when you graduate to the end of the Breen Arc? Then we have the Iconian war, which was bloody. I think we need to revise the timeline... could we not have a clock of sorts, that when you finish an arc, it advances? Account wide or whatever... so you know what year you're in.

    This probably has been done to death...

    I look at the timeline this way. In real life major conflicts people climb the ranks quickly very quickly. We start the game in a war so you rise through ranks quickly. Then to my view each season is like a season of the various TV series where only the major highlights of the ships logs or station logs were ever made into episodes. Think about it would you care to watch an episode where nothing happens but this... Captians Log Stardate 586.97.3 ... Fuel consumption normal, On course warp 2 to Gamma Bannana 29 for resupply. No engineering reports out side of a clogged toilet on deck 12, No romulan or Klingon vessels in scanning range, No priority messages from Star fleet command , Enterainment tonight is the cult comedy film from Earth called "Alien"... This is how I look at the Game timeline.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    so something happens on an average of once a week like in star trek? haha...

    I suppose. Some of the assignments are back to back...so the average could work out.
  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
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    Still, eighteen months to go from cadet to admiral seems a bit of a stretch even for Trek. And yes I'm leaving out JJverse because I try to leave that out of my STO experience. I do own a Vengeance and a KT Connie(which I fly exclusively at the moment) but I have a prime universe head canon that explains their existance. Just my opinion.
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