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zerosinder
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Ok can someone please explain this to me? Is a T6 the best ship you can get or is a T6 Fleet ship a better overall ship?
The reason I am asking this is I just got a T6 Fleet Intel Cruiser. It has 4 mastery tiers where as my T6 Intel cruiser (Non Fleet but a similar ship) has 5 mastery tiers to unlock.
This makes 0 sense to me. As far as ship progressions go, I thought T6 Fleet ships were the "Top dog" when it comes to ship status. If this is the case why would the lesser ship get more mastery tiers the the T6 ships?? If the T6 ships are better then the T6 fleet ships why would they cost more to buy?
If someone could explain this that would be awesome.
The reason I am asking this is I just got a T6 Fleet Intel Cruiser. It has 4 mastery tiers where as my T6 Intel cruiser (Non Fleet but a similar ship) has 5 mastery tiers to unlock.
This makes 0 sense to me. As far as ship progressions go, I thought T6 Fleet ships were the "Top dog" when it comes to ship status. If this is the case why would the lesser ship get more mastery tiers the the T6 ships?? If the T6 ships are better then the T6 fleet ships why would they cost more to buy?
If someone could explain this that would be awesome.
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The T6 Fleet ships have better stats and an additional material BUT they lack the console and starship trait of their T6 counterpart.
So you're sorta "forced" to get both T6 and a fleet module (instead of 5 if you don't buy the non-Fleet T6) for the T6 Fleet version so you can have the complete set... and that's not including the various ENG/SCI/TAC variants a T6 can have.
It's really to make you pay 5 additional dollars if you want the top of this ship line.
C-store, Fleet, Lobi.
Plus it will only cost 1 fleet ship module to purchase the fleet T6 variant after you buy the C-store vrsion first.
And the C-store one: ALL your faction toons get to use it, a fleet ship is a one ship purchase.
So in those respects, T6 C-store is superior.
^ The best method right here. ^ Get the trait, then go for the "extras." Lobi ships are already top of the line.
Fleet T6 is a single character unlock that comes without the ship trait or universal console but it does come with an extra console slot (11 in total compared to 10 for c-store T6 ships. Fleet ships also come with extra hull visuals, hull hit points and bonus shield modifier.
As others have said, the typical path is to buy the C-store version for the account unlock, then buy the fleet version after so you only pay 1 fleet ship module instead of 5. Also, I only buy fleet versions on one character usually. But it's up to you.
Also, there are some C-Store ships that come at fleet level with the extra console slot and all the regular C-store goodies. Examples include....
T6 Odyssey Flagships
T6 Romulan Scimitars
T6 Bortasqu' Ships
T6 Command Cruisers (Original Command Ships)
T6 Pilot Ships (Original Pilot Ships)
Also, Lock Box and Lobi ships also come at fleet level.
Also another thing I don't get is why there is a T5 and a T5-Upgraded status. Why buy one when you can use the T6 at the same level (Or am I wrong, which I could be)? Is it just another cash grab to get you some console or trait or something? I have the Nih (whatever it's called) Destroyer also but I have never used it as I have the higher T6 lobi ships. Would there be any benefit to leveling though that ship? Would there be any benefit to upgrading that ship?
Thanks for the help all. It is starting to kinda make sense to me. I still find some of this very confusing and poorly explained (By the game, not you guys). I also think that personally ship unlocks like the Jem hadar or the Astika BC I have should be account wide, not character wide. Sucks you can only use them with one character when they are so very expensive to get.
Not really. Fleet T6 is comparable to T6 Lobi in terms of stats and consoles.
T6's were released years after T5's, and Cryptic very wisely gave people the opportunity to upgrade those T5's to T5U, which gives them comparable stats to T6's. There is only a tiny difference in performance, and some T5U's, which still don't have a T6 version, are extremely potent, such as the Kar'Fi Battle Carrier (4/3 and 2 Hangers).
As a buying choice, true, but fleet ships do have some utility as a straight unlock if you'd rather pick-up a ship with on-hand EC than dilithium/zen (and aren't particularly bothered by the lack of account access, skins, consoles, and mastery abilities.) If you have the option, go C-store but people may find a quick fleet ship all they really need for a specific build or flight of fancy.
This is simply untrue. Lobi ships have the same total bridge officer and console space and come with appropriate HP, SP, speed, and ship class accessories (ex. cruiser commands, hangar space, weapon layouts). While some Lobi ships are min-max preferred (ex. Vengeance), many are not and this distinction relies entirely on preferred layouts. You'll find competitive ships in the lock boxes, special events, c-store, and fleet roster (Vesta, Paladin, Scimitar, Matha, ect.).
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There didn't used to be a Tier 6. Tier 5 was it (C-store/lobi/lockbox were T5+ essentially) T6 has only been out for, what, 2 years? That's why there are soooo many T5 ships to choose from vs other lower tiers.
Cryptic made T5 upgrades to help minimize the whining when everyone who had bought "max level" ships for REAL money but now found them to be NOT-max-level ships anymore. And, obviously, Cryptic found a way to make some cash in the process from people who didn't want to give up their T5s by letting them 'refit' them (for $5) to almost T6 ships.
Imagine T6 Sci Scimitar with Intel seating and OSS3
Wait, I thought it was lockbox ships. Or did you include those when you were thinking Lobi?
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