Hmmm... Getting rid of ship tiers = an interesting concept.
My immediate questions to it are:
- How does this effect over all game experience? For example; I was forced to play & appreciate ships I'd normally never choose whilst ranking up for "the ship of my dreams". The joy of *finally* geting your very own Defiant or Sovereign would be nullified. In Starfleet you are assigned to various ships & outposts until you get to senior officer whereby you have a little more selection... In that way is the tier system in sto not a means of simulating true trek-verse dynamics?
- Would this reduce c-store ship sales? I would still buy the cool store goodies, but maybe a lot of players would turn away from the c store as they can simply upgrade the heck out of their little ships, how does this change the game economy?
- Over saturation of connies & galaxy class ships... Would star trek online become boring visually as players tend to all use the same ship? Again, the consideration here is that the tier system forces us to try our Barclay- I mean Broccoli.
And what of those of us who have purchased so many c store ships? I am still not thrilled that Cryptic gives things away that I had to pay for... But to be devils advocate against myself here, I could argue that I paid for "early access" to those ships and goodies...
Ultimately I think there's a deeper issue than has been touched on here & a happy medium. Star Trek Online started out wanting to focus on the future. They did a great job with TNG era ships and equipment. They also did great with original 25th century content.
But...
Cryptic left out a vast and key part of Trek... The original series and movies were the foundation upon which this rich phenomenon was built and with out it the game began to feel hollow and with more and more new & original content it did not even look or feel like star trek any longer! Cryptic realized they needed to push for more licensing & go back to grass roots. Now with AoY and the dipping our toes into movie era with the undiscovered lock box, we have the game feeling back on trek!
But it's not complete is it?
In addition to Undiscovered lock box we need to follow the path of the enterprise B excelsior. Maybe voice actor Ferris Bueller could be Capt John H. for one more temporal mission involving the excelsior refit Ent-B... Give us T6 Miranda, Oberth, Stargazer & Ambassador class to match the T6 excelsiors. Give us movie era interiors. Give us the lost years between undiscovered country and TNG... This period is virtually unknown and free for cryptic to explore.
The new series: Star Trek Discovery is going to challenge STO to keep up with the fans and new lore as it takes place in prime timeline... I already cant wait to see the new Discovery ship design and uniforms/weapons. This cage era trek takes us back 10 years prior to kirks command. So meanwhile die hard TNG babies want more Janeway Pi, trek is going back to grass roots to re invent itself in an era it deserved to be in. Tos was cancelled due to being ahead of its time... Now with modern graphics and a more open minded society we get to see trek as it was meant to be.
So give these kids their miranda... Theres already an amazing miranda variant in the latest Discovery promo.... Hang on guys the future is now!
While I agree ship tiers are a BS artificial game mechanic concept.... I seriously doubt they will EVER get rid of them... its built into the core of the game's systems and would require a total overhaul of too much. Maybe in STO 2.0 they'll clue in
Hmmm... Getting rid of ship tiers = an interesting concept.
My immediate questions to it are:
- How does this effect over all game experience? For example; I was forced to play & appreciate ships I'd normally never choose whilst ranking up for "the ship of my dreams". The joy of *finally* geting your very own Defiant or Sovereign would be nullified. In Starfleet you are assigned to various ships & outposts until you get to senior officer whereby you have a little more selection... In that way is the tier system in sto not a means of simulating true trek-verse dynamics?
- Would this reduce c-store ship sales? I would still buy the cool store goodies, but maybe a lot of players would turn away from the c store as they can simply upgrade the heck out of their little ships, how does this change the game economy?
- Over saturation of connies & galaxy class ships... Would star trek online become boring visually as players tend to all use the same ship? Again, the consideration here is that the tier system forces us to try our Barclay- I mean Broccoli.
And what of those of us who have purchased so many c store ships? I am still not thrilled that Cryptic gives things away that I had to pay for... But to be devils advocate against myself here, I could argue that I paid for "early access" to those ships and goodies...
- The joy of finally getting my own Sovereign.
For me actually getting to it, was slightly annoying drudgery having to get to the one ship I always knew I wanted and the only one I intended to fly. It's an interesting dichotomy. Starship captains having their own choice of ship class isn't something usually touched on. Picard became the Stargazer's Captain by battlefield promotion after the captain was killed. He had the command for decades before he received the Enterprise when the Stargazer was lost. Kirk was assigned the Enterprise as his second command after an exceptional first command. Sisko helped design and build the Defiant, and was authorized to pull her out of mothballs.
My preference and what I would think would be more natural is selecting the design family of ship you want and then modifying and personalizing it as you go along. Geordi spent a lot of time on the Enterprise-D competing with the Intrepid's chief engineer to see who could push their engine efficiency higher. So by the time you're years in, with all your specializations filled out your ship is uniquely tweaked for you. She's yours.
- C-Store sales would need to be restructured. If you were to convert to this system, then purchased C-store ships would represent the parts that you have on hand for ship building. Ship schematics, consoles, unique components, weapons. When the new ship specialization comes out, you get to purchase a seat for it and install it on your bridge. And how effective it is depends on what components you add to the rest of your ship. Do you go full Intel and install the probe that Intel ships come with? Do you go full Temporal and install a Molecular Reconstruction beam in your deflector? And what are you going to remove to add it in? Larger ships would have more space for equipment. A much more in-depth version than what we have now, with more options. For instance, my dream to be able to swap warheads, so I could put the Quantum Phase Torpedo warhead into a Wide Arc Quantum Torpedo casing and tube.
- I wouldn't worry about a clone Starfleet. There are lots of people who fly the ships they truly want and Earth Orbit has a wide variety of starships.
Ultimately I think there's a deeper issue than has been touched on here & a happy medium.
Star Trek Online started out wanting to focus on the future. They did a great job with TNG era ships and equipment. They also did great with original 25th century content.
But...
Cryptic left out a vast and key part of Trek... The original series and movies were the foundation upon which this rich phenomenon was built and with out it the game began to feel hollow and with more and more new & original content it did not even look or feel like star trek any longer!
Cryptic realized they needed to push for more licensing & go back to grass roots. Now with AoY and the dipping our toes into movie era with the undiscovered lock box, we have the game feeling back on trek!
But it's not complete is it?
In addition to Undiscovered lock box we need to follow the path of the enterprise B excelsior. Maybe voice actor Ferris Bueller could be Capt John H. for one more temporal mission involving the excelsior refit Ent-B... Give us T6 Miranda, Oberth, Stargazer & Ambassador class to match the T6 excelsiors. Give us movie era interiors.
Give us the lost years between undiscovered country and TNG... This period is virtually unknown and free for cryptic to explore.
The new series: Star Trek Discovery is going to challenge STO to keep up with the fans and new lore as it takes place in prime timeline... I already cant wait to see the new Discovery ship design and uniforms/weapons. This cage era trek takes us back 10 years prior to kirks command. So meanwhile die hard TNG babies want more Janeway Pi, trek is going back to grass roots to re invent itself in an era it deserved to be in. Tos was cancelled due to being ahead of its time... Now with modern graphics and a more open minded society we get to see trek as it was meant to be.
So give these kids their miranda... Theres already an amazing miranda variant in the latest Discovery promo.... Hang on guys the future is now!
I actually disagree with this. Aside from time travel missions.
Time moves on. A modern era Star Trek game in this case the 25th century, is not going to have 140 year old starships front and center, in the same way the modern navy doesn't have brig sloops patrolling the seas.
I grew up on TOS and TMP era films. So while the history must be acknowledged, I don't feel it should be lived in.
While I agree ship tiers are a BS artificial game mechanic concept.... I seriously doubt they will EVER get rid of them... its built into the core of the game's systems and would require a total overhaul of too much. Maybe in STO 2.0 they'll clue in
Agreed.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
I've been waiting for an endgame Miranda since my day 1 way back at the end of Season 5. Still waiting.
I would honestly be happy for the Light Cruiser to be a temporal vessel with abilities in accordance. The Miranda is my number 1 favorite sci fi vessel, but yes, its obviously too old now as it used to be. TBH, the Excelsior would most definitely been a temporal ships as well, if they hadn't released her so early in the games lifetime.
Like someone earlier in the thread suggested, make it a 3 pack:
Escort, Science Vessel, Cruiser configurations. That makes it useful for virtually any player but it doesn't need to perform exceedingly good at either. Personally, I would fly the darn thing no matter what stats it has, I just love it that much.
With temporal TOS ships being a thing now, I am hopeful again that one day I might get to fly the ship I started out with properly. Remember the Galaxy threadnought? The one that went on for thousands of posts, years on end about how awful the Galaxy Retrofits layout was? Guess what? T6 Andromeda happens, fixes all the problems.
I can't think of any reason at this point why this of all Star Trek ships should be left out. There just isn't a reason anymore. Its just a matter of time and whether or not the game will be around at that point. So do what I have done for 4+ years and be patient. Fly your other favorite ships in the mean time!
I allways thought if it like a reputation system. The more tac tasks completed would result in more tac ships unlocked. Each one starting on lvl 1 then u add points into the verious systems allowing upgradable stats. With cstore ships being accesed from the start and useable like they r now with there counterparts
I also like the Intrepid though calling it Intrepid class is a bit of a stretch since Voyager is of the Intrepid class. Make her an NX class, or an NX Gamma class.
That's because it isn't an Intrepid Class. It's also not an NX Class. It's commonly referred to as an NV Class (for some odd reason, nobody seems to know why) within fandom.
This follows on from the NX-01 being of the NX Class and the NC-27 (The Sarajevo) being of the NC Class (as noted behind the scenes not onscreen but most ship classes are only noted BtS).
The Intrepid didn't have any class name attached to it's digital model, not even the name 'Intrepid' (it's unlabelled in the episode), the model files are labelled as 'Half-Saucer' in the same way the older ship is the 'Warp-Delta'.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
But the Constitution was designed to be a front line deep space exploration ship. The Mirandas were always scout ships, patrol vessels, ships that weren't required to go far abroad. When you're calling ships up for a massive war, the ships on deep space exploration are the LAST ones to get to the party while the patrol ships within Federation space are always close at hand.
Imo Miranda would be closer to a corvette its a scout and patrol ship sure it can fight but its mant more to do short range shore patrols and scouting for the fleet, now within a fleet a corvette serve a role as a swift attack ship but its not mant as a front line warship.
As well as before a T-6 Constitution refit...That classic lady really deserves an upgrade to not only her performance, but her appearance in the game as well...
Regarding ship design, I want more forward thinking in design and aesthetic. I'm of the same opinion as Captaind3, acknowledge the past but stop repeating it. Imo Mirandas (and Intrepids/Vestas/Jupiters/Fed command vessels) are fugly.
If anything, start making the transition from actual 25th century design into 26th. The temporal designs were a good start. Star Trek is about progress and forward thinking ideals. Not standing still in the 25th while continuing on with the stagnations of the 24th century.
Definitely ditch the four nacelle concept, and start making universe classes!
I also like the Intrepid though calling it Intrepid class is a bit of a stretch since Voyager is of the Intrepid class. Make her an NX class, or an NX Gamma class.
That's because it isn't an Intrepid Class. It's also not an NX Class. It's commonly referred to as an NV Class (for some odd reason, nobody seems to know why) within fandom.
This follows on from the NX-01 being of the NX Class and the NC-27 (The Sarajevo) being of the NC Class (as noted behind the scenes not onscreen but most ship classes are only noted BtS).
The Intrepid didn't have any class name attached to it's digital model, not even the name 'Intrepid' (it's unlabelled in the episode), the model files are labelled as 'Half-Saucer' in the same way the older ship is the 'Warp-Delta'.
Never seen it referred to as an NV class myself, rather I've always seen it called the Intrepid-Type. Even it's page on memory-alpha.wikia.com refers to it as such. I call it the 22c Intrepid just cause I think it sounds better than the Intrepid-Type.
Cryptic really needs to give us more ship name space... ESPECIALLY for Romulan Vessels.... so many words become 6 miles long in Romulan.... like "Raptor" becomes "Hatham'Dhael"
I also like the Intrepid though calling it Intrepid class is a bit of a stretch since Voyager is of the Intrepid class. Make her an NX class, or an NX Gamma class.
That's because it isn't an Intrepid Class. It's also not an NX Class. It's commonly referred to as an NV Class (for some odd reason, nobody seems to know why) within fandom.
This follows on from the NX-01 being of the NX Class and the NC-27 (The Sarajevo) being of the NC Class (as noted behind the scenes not onscreen but most ship classes are only noted BtS).
The Intrepid didn't have any class name attached to it's digital model, not even the name 'Intrepid' (it's unlabelled in the episode), the model files are labelled as 'Half-Saucer' in the same way the older ship is the 'Warp-Delta'.
Never seen it referred to as an NV class myself, rather I've always seen it called the Intrepid-Type. Even it's page on memory-alpha.wikia.com refers to it as such. I call it the 22c Intrepid just cause I think it sounds better than the Intrepid-Type.
Like I say it's a fan name. The designer dosn't even refer to it as 'Intrepid'. I've also seen NY-Class for it.
Memory Alpha's cabal don't generally use any fan material, they'll use the hell out of non-canon material all over pages supposedly limited to canon, but I haven't found any outright fannon there.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
You know, I've been wondering if the Temporal Battle Cruiser was intended to have the Miranda/Centaur/Shi'kar skins and it got shot down. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see the Ranger class looks eerily like a TOS Miranda predecessor.
You know, I've been wondering if the Temporal Battle Cruiser was intended to have the Miranda/Centaur/Shi'kar skins and it got shot down. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see the Ranger class looks eerily like a TOS Miranda predecessor.
In the last Jayce's Navy Interstellar, the expose on the Ranger class leaves a lot of hints that one can use to infer it is the immediate predecessor to the Miranda design. There are a few bits that talk about successor design changes that, when you put all the pieces together, make a ship that sounds suspiciously like the Miranda class.
The idea of a T6 Miranda is simply ridiculous. As said before, it's the 'red shirt' of the fleet.. the garbage they send into the battle to draw fire off the good ships. People think that just because you see them on screen in current Star Trek that it was somehow refit and turned into some awesome fighting machine.. it's scrap.
Now, while the idea of a T6 version is asinine and completely stupid.. so is the idea of a T6 Connie and the dumbest thing ever.. a T6 NX class. With that in mind, I'm absolutely certain that a T6 Miranda is on the horizon. It might not make any sense, but we're talking about a game where everyone in Star Fleet is an Admiral flying around in Iconian ships the size of a small moon.
What makes sense is irrelivant, if they think it will sell, they'll make it. That doesn't mean it isn't stupid though. Just keep making noise and eventually your completely nonsensical request will be fulfilled.
You don't like it, DON'T USE 'EM. Let those of us who want these be able to use 'em and have fun.
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My immediate questions to it are:
- How does this effect over all game experience? For example; I was forced to play & appreciate ships I'd normally never choose whilst ranking up for "the ship of my dreams". The joy of *finally* geting your very own Defiant or Sovereign would be nullified. In Starfleet you are assigned to various ships & outposts until you get to senior officer whereby you have a little more selection... In that way is the tier system in sto not a means of simulating true trek-verse dynamics?
- Would this reduce c-store ship sales? I would still buy the cool store goodies, but maybe a lot of players would turn away from the c store as they can simply upgrade the heck out of their little ships, how does this change the game economy?
- Over saturation of connies & galaxy class ships... Would star trek online become boring visually as players tend to all use the same ship? Again, the consideration here is that the tier system forces us to try our Barclay- I mean Broccoli.
And what of those of us who have purchased so many c store ships? I am still not thrilled that Cryptic gives things away that I had to pay for... But to be devils advocate against myself here, I could argue that I paid for "early access" to those ships and goodies...
Ultimately I think there's a deeper issue than has been touched on here & a happy medium.
Star Trek Online started out wanting to focus on the future. They did a great job with TNG era ships and equipment. They also did great with original 25th century content.
But...
Cryptic left out a vast and key part of Trek... The original series and movies were the foundation upon which this rich phenomenon was built and with out it the game began to feel hollow and with more and more new & original content it did not even look or feel like star trek any longer!
Cryptic realized they needed to push for more licensing & go back to grass roots. Now with AoY and the dipping our toes into movie era with the undiscovered lock box, we have the game feeling back on trek!
But it's not complete is it?
In addition to Undiscovered lock box we need to follow the path of the enterprise B excelsior. Maybe voice actor Ferris Bueller could be Capt John H. for one more temporal mission involving the excelsior refit Ent-B... Give us T6 Miranda, Oberth, Stargazer & Ambassador class to match the T6 excelsiors. Give us movie era interiors.
Give us the lost years between undiscovered country and TNG... This period is virtually unknown and free for cryptic to explore.
The new series: Star Trek Discovery is going to challenge STO to keep up with the fans and new lore as it takes place in prime timeline... I already cant wait to see the new Discovery ship design and uniforms/weapons. This cage era trek takes us back 10 years prior to kirks command. So meanwhile die hard TNG babies want more Janeway Pi, trek is going back to grass roots to re invent itself in an era it deserved to be in. Tos was cancelled due to being ahead of its time... Now with modern graphics and a more open minded society we get to see trek as it was meant to be.
So give these kids their miranda... Theres already an amazing miranda variant in the latest Discovery promo.... Hang on guys the future is now!
- The joy of finally getting my own Sovereign.
For me actually getting to it, was slightly annoying drudgery having to get to the one ship I always knew I wanted and the only one I intended to fly. It's an interesting dichotomy. Starship captains having their own choice of ship class isn't something usually touched on. Picard became the Stargazer's Captain by battlefield promotion after the captain was killed. He had the command for decades before he received the Enterprise when the Stargazer was lost. Kirk was assigned the Enterprise as his second command after an exceptional first command. Sisko helped design and build the Defiant, and was authorized to pull her out of mothballs.
My preference and what I would think would be more natural is selecting the design family of ship you want and then modifying and personalizing it as you go along. Geordi spent a lot of time on the Enterprise-D competing with the Intrepid's chief engineer to see who could push their engine efficiency higher. So by the time you're years in, with all your specializations filled out your ship is uniquely tweaked for you. She's yours.
- C-Store sales would need to be restructured. If you were to convert to this system, then purchased C-store ships would represent the parts that you have on hand for ship building. Ship schematics, consoles, unique components, weapons. When the new ship specialization comes out, you get to purchase a seat for it and install it on your bridge. And how effective it is depends on what components you add to the rest of your ship. Do you go full Intel and install the probe that Intel ships come with? Do you go full Temporal and install a Molecular Reconstruction beam in your deflector? And what are you going to remove to add it in? Larger ships would have more space for equipment. A much more in-depth version than what we have now, with more options. For instance, my dream to be able to swap warheads, so I could put the Quantum Phase Torpedo warhead into a Wide Arc Quantum Torpedo casing and tube.
- I wouldn't worry about a clone Starfleet. There are lots of people who fly the ships they truly want and Earth Orbit has a wide variety of starships.
I actually disagree with this. Aside from time travel missions.
Time moves on. A modern era Star Trek game in this case the 25th century, is not going to have 140 year old starships front and center, in the same way the modern navy doesn't have brig sloops patrolling the seas.
I grew up on TOS and TMP era films. So while the history must be acknowledged, I don't feel it should be lived in.
Agreed.
I would honestly be happy for the Light Cruiser to be a temporal vessel with abilities in accordance. The Miranda is my number 1 favorite sci fi vessel, but yes, its obviously too old now as it used to be. TBH, the Excelsior would most definitely been a temporal ships as well, if they hadn't released her so early in the games lifetime.
Like someone earlier in the thread suggested, make it a 3 pack:
Escort, Science Vessel, Cruiser configurations. That makes it useful for virtually any player but it doesn't need to perform exceedingly good at either. Personally, I would fly the darn thing no matter what stats it has, I just love it that much.
With temporal TOS ships being a thing now, I am hopeful again that one day I might get to fly the ship I started out with properly. Remember the Galaxy threadnought? The one that went on for thousands of posts, years on end about how awful the Galaxy Retrofits layout was? Guess what? T6 Andromeda happens, fixes all the problems.
I can't think of any reason at this point why this of all Star Trek ships should be left out. There just isn't a reason anymore. Its just a matter of time and whether or not the game will be around at that point. So do what I have done for 4+ years and be patient. Fly your other favorite ships in the mean time!
"Let them eat static!"
That's because it isn't an Intrepid Class. It's also not an NX Class. It's commonly referred to as an NV Class (for some odd reason, nobody seems to know why) within fandom.
This follows on from the NX-01 being of the NX Class and the NC-27 (The Sarajevo) being of the NC Class (as noted behind the scenes not onscreen but most ship classes are only noted BtS).
The Intrepid didn't have any class name attached to it's digital model, not even the name 'Intrepid' (it's unlabelled in the episode), the model files are labelled as 'Half-Saucer' in the same way the older ship is the 'Warp-Delta'.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Imo Miranda would be closer to a corvette its a scout and patrol ship sure it can fight but its mant more to do short range shore patrols and scouting for the fleet, now within a fleet a corvette serve a role as a swift attack ship but its not mant as a front line warship.
If anything, start making the transition from actual 25th century design into 26th. The temporal designs were a good start. Star Trek is about progress and forward thinking ideals. Not standing still in the 25th while continuing on with the stagnations of the 24th century.
Definitely ditch the four nacelle concept, and start making universe classes!
Never seen it referred to as an NV class myself, rather I've always seen it called the Intrepid-Type. Even it's page on memory-alpha.wikia.com refers to it as such. I call it the 22c Intrepid just cause I think it sounds better than the Intrepid-Type.
Faith of the Heart is like two digits too long
Oh, and I have that picture setup as a link to a certain youtube video as well
Like I say it's a fan name. The designer dosn't even refer to it as 'Intrepid'. I've also seen NY-Class for it.
Memory Alpha's cabal don't generally use any fan material, they'll use the hell out of non-canon material all over pages supposedly limited to canon, but I haven't found any outright fannon there.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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In the last Jayce's Navy Interstellar, the expose on the Ranger class leaves a lot of hints that one can use to infer it is the immediate predecessor to the Miranda design. There are a few bits that talk about successor design changes that, when you put all the pieces together, make a ship that sounds suspiciously like the Miranda class.
Now, while the idea of a T6 version is asinine and completely stupid.. so is the idea of a T6 Connie and the dumbest thing ever.. a T6 NX class. With that in mind, I'm absolutely certain that a T6 Miranda is on the horizon. It might not make any sense, but we're talking about a game where everyone in Star Fleet is an Admiral flying around in Iconian ships the size of a small moon.
What makes sense is irrelivant, if they think it will sell, they'll make it. That doesn't mean it isn't stupid though. Just keep making noise and eventually your completely nonsensical request will be fulfilled.
You don't like it, DON'T USE 'EM. Let those of us who want these be able to use 'em and have fun.
I think that would bring my guys in. As they say, "it's close enough for government work!"
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