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question regarding the10mil dilithium cap

Does anyone know if the 10 million cap on dilithium is TOTAL dilithium? In other words, does that total include unrefined ore and refined Dilithium? Or can I hit the cap on refined, and continue to accumulate unrefined ore?

Just curious, as I'm coming up on the refined dilithium cap (just about 9.5 mil at the moment) and I'd like to know if I am going to start losing ore if cross the threshold.

thanks.

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    There's separate caps for both of them, as explained in the tooltip.

    But you will have to start spending that dil (or transfering to other toons) before you hit 10m refined.
  • phenomenaut01phenomenaut01 Member Posts: 714 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    There's separate caps for both of them, as explained in the tooltip.

    But you will have to start spending that dil (or transfering to other toons) before you hit 10m refined.

    why is that? Seems to me that as long as I don't refine any more ore, and I can keep accumulating unrefined ore, I should be mostly okay.

    I mean, of course I'm going to spend it, or transfer some of it to one of my other toons maybe, once I grab a screenshot at the 10mil mark of course. :D

  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    There's separate caps for both of them, as explained in the tooltip.

    But you will have to start spending that dil (or transfering to other toons) before you hit 10m refined.

    why is that? Seems to me that as long as I don't refine any more ore, and I can keep accumulating unrefined ore, I should be mostly okay.

    I mean, of course I'm going to spend it, or transfer some of it to one of my other toons maybe, once I grab a screenshot at the 10mil mark of course. :D
    Well sure, it shouldn't do anything besides stop you from getting any more, but not being able to refine means you're losing out on your refining capability.
  • mkm1911#2674 mkm1911 Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    S**t. I wish I could get 19m. I'd be happy with 300k. Wtf? How does someone gather 10m?
  • stee1maxstee1max Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    S**t. I wish I could get 19m. I'd be happy with 300k. Wtf? How does someone gather 10m?
    With 8-9 toons and a couple of hours per day, you can grind 1M dili in less than 2 weeks. Do the math. And no tedious "replaying content" required.
  • phenomenaut01phenomenaut01 Member Posts: 714 Arc User
    S**t. I wish I could get 19m. I'd be happy with 300k. Wtf? How does someone gather 10m?

    It's taken about 5 or six months of running DOFF and Admiralty missions (sometimes on 1 or 2 characters, sometimes on all 7), and consciously not spending the dilithium on anything. Though I did do some upgrades here and there which ate into the pile a bit. Oh, and I picked up a couple100k worth of the Phoenix prize packs when those came out.

    I initially started out wondering how long it would take to get the dilithium to buy all of the costumes in the dilithium store, then I decided that I wasn't going to support that, because the pricing is just insane. From there I just kept going until now. No idea what I'm going to do with it all, since there's nothing that I want in the C-store that I don't already have, so why bother trading it in for Zen, and the offering in the dilithium store is just worthless.

    So basically I guess I'm just going to sit on it until something worthwhile comes along.
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    Turn it into Zen, buy keys, open lockboxes, spend the Lobi on consumables. There we are. There's always a cure for swollen wallets in this game! :D
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  • phenomenaut01phenomenaut01 Member Posts: 714 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    No no, save the Lobi for the imminent release of the T6 Monbosh then use or sell the ship. Never waste lobi on those garbage consumables.

    agreed. I've never spent lobi on consumables. There's just no need for them.

    As for spending Lobi on ships to sell them...I've already got billions of EC...so I really don't need that either. Plus I've got the ships I want already...mostly.

    wow...I hadn't realize until now what a waste of time it was getting all of this Dilithium and EC, when there's really nothing I want to spend any of it on. I should probably get out more.
  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User

    Always try to stay atleast 300k below the 10 mil refind cap, it sneaks up on you fast.
    Armada: Multiplying fleet projects in need of dilithium by 13."
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    No no, save the Lobi for the imminent release of the T6 Monbosh then use or sell the ship. Never waste lobi on those garbage consumables.
    Didn't they already remove the consumables from the lobi store?
  • kf4tvikf4tvi Member Posts: 165 Arc User
    I am still at a point in the game where I need to use Dil for upgrades and such, plus I also like to contribute to fleet projects so I can earn fleet marks and credits to buy the shiny stuff. I was amazed anyone could have so much Dil or EC as to have to worry about the caps...until I hit the 10 mil cap of EC one day and lost about 40K down the singularity hole. What a problem huh :-)...anyway I wonder why the refinement cap on dil is set to only 8500/day. I've noticed the lack of refined dil is what holds most fleet projects back too....well that and the availability of common DOFFs. It seems that at some point in the game you start earning more ore than you could ever possibly refine...so why the dil refinement limit?
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    kf4tvi wrote: »
    I am still at a point in the game where I need to use Dil for upgrades and such, plus I also like to contribute to fleet projects so I can earn fleet marks and credits to buy the shiny stuff. I was amazed anyone could have so much Dil or EC as to have to worry about the caps...until I hit the 10 mil cap of EC one day and lost about 40K down the singularity hole. What a problem huh :-)...anyway I wonder why the refinement cap on dil is set to only 8500/day. I've noticed the lack of refined dil is what holds most fleet projects back too....well that and the availability of common DOFFs. It seems that at some point in the game you start earning more ore than you could ever possibly refine...so why the dil refinement limit?

    to keep people for getting everything in a week therefore having no reason to even log on except for events and new missions.


    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    agreed. I've never spent lobi on consumables. There's just no need for them.

    As for spending Lobi on ships to sell them...I've already got billions of EC...so I really don't need that either. Plus I've got the ships I want already...mostly.

    wow...I hadn't realize until now what a waste of time it was getting all of this Dilithium and EC, when there's really nothing I want to spend any of it on. I should probably get out more.

    Spend the lobi on ships to give away to fleet mates or hold impromptu contests (like, first person to find you on the Dyson ground battlezone gets a lobi ship). Head to ESD and give people random stuff. Gamble it away at the dabo tables. Give it all away and try to make it back, starting with a single shield capacitor.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    kf4tvi wrote: »
    I am still at a point in the game where I need to use Dil for upgrades and such, plus I also like to contribute to fleet projects so I can earn fleet marks and credits to buy the shiny stuff. I was amazed anyone could have so much Dil or EC as to have to worry about the caps...until I hit the 10 mil cap of EC one day and lost about 40K down the singularity hole. What a problem huh :-)...anyway I wonder why the refinement cap on dil is set to only 8500/day. I've noticed the lack of refined dil is what holds most fleet projects back too....well that and the availability of common DOFFs. It seems that at some point in the game you start earning more ore than you could ever possibly refine...so why the dil refinement limit?

    to keep people for getting everything in a week therefore having no reason to even log on except for events and new missions.
    More like to keep poopsockers and goldsellers from completely crashing the market.
  • kf4tvikf4tvi Member Posts: 165 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    kf4tvi wrote: »
    I am still at a point in the game where I need to use Dil for upgrades and such, plus I also like to contribute to fleet projects so I can earn fleet marks and credits to buy the shiny stuff. I was amazed anyone could have so much Dil or EC as to have to worry about the caps...until I hit the 10 mil cap of EC one day and lost about 40K down the singularity hole. What a problem huh :-)...anyway I wonder why the refinement cap on dil is set to only 8500/day. I've noticed the lack of refined dil is what holds most fleet projects back too....well that and the availability of common DOFFs. It seems that at some point in the game you start earning more ore than you could ever possibly refine...so why the dil refinement limit?

    to keep people for getting everything in a week therefore having no reason to even log on except for events and new missions.

    I can see how it may have looked as though I was suggesting we should have no refinement limit, but what I was actually trying to say or ask was why is the limit so low? It just seems that it is a bottleneck at this time. I was thinking about maybe having a choice on those top level missions that include something like 10,000 or more Dil as part of the reward. Why not give the option to accept the ore, or accept a token to refine that amount ore, which you already own? Earlier I had noticed that my fleet had 11 active projects, all had one thing in common, they all lacked dil to complete. I didn't realize that it was a built-in mechanism to slow game progression and to insure we return to the game each day. I try and learn something new each day, so I guess I just got schooled! Thanks for the enlightenment. LLAP
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    kf4tvi wrote: »
    I can see how it may have looked as though I was suggesting we should have no refinement limit, but what I was actually trying to say or ask was why is the limit so low?


    One word: inflation. A sudden huge influx of Dilithium into the economy -- just like printing a lot of extra money in the real world -- would severely devaluate Dilithium as a currency for Zen. You'd wind up paying tens of thousands of Dils, for just 1 Zen.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    what on earth do you have that much dil for? you need to trade it for zen while the rate is still low

    Some people like PILES and PILES of Dil!!!
    Armada: Multiplying fleet projects in need of dilithium by 13."
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  • phenomenaut01phenomenaut01 Member Posts: 714 Arc User
    what on earth do you have that much dil for? you need to trade it for zen while the rate is still low

    Why?

    I've already stated there's nothing I want to buy for Zen...or for Dilithium for that matter. The rates have been way lower in the past, and even if they go back up, they'll eventually drop back down again.

    *shrug*
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  • phenomenaut01phenomenaut01 Member Posts: 714 Arc User
    what on earth do you have that much dil for? you need to trade it for zen while the rate is still low

    Why?

    I've already stated there's nothing I want to buy for Zen...or for Dilithium for that matter. The rates have been way lower in the past, and even if they go back up, they'll eventually drop back down again.

    *shrug*

    What do you mean why?

    So you can get more dil...

    I suppose there's some logic in that. :D
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