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Provisioning of K13.

stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I do appreciate there are time gates on many things, but provisioning needs looking at again.
The wait for K13 Provisions is long and very slow and to be honest is not in players or cryptics interest.
I think after each upgrade, K13 tier 1-3, items for sale should be immediately available to buy.
Surely items available to buy immediately, would attract real money going into the game there and then?
Ok maybe its wishful thinking, but I hope someone from cryptic reads this, and perhaps get cryptic to consider scrapping the provisions rule for fleet holdings. Moneywise it would be in cryptics interest.

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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    Not talking about your request for immediate provisioning as such, but as a question:

    Where exactly is the money in this for Cryptic? I do get a "???" on the step before "Profit" here.
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  • stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    New items to buy via buying zen using real money. then its dilithium, ec, and fleet credits etc. abit obvious.
  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    Not talking about your request for immediate provisioning as such, but as a question:

    Where exactly is the money in this for Cryptic? I do get a "???" on the step before "Profit" here.

    Are there ship unlocks for the shipyard with the K-13 holding? I never checked. If so, then I suppose the sooner you could unlock them, the sooner you would need Modules, and spend zen.

    But that is just a guess.

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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,515 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    It's only a 20 hour 'time-gate', not exactly an eternity, and certainly quicker delivery than real-life!
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    stuart1965 wrote: »
    New items to buy via buying zen using real money. then its dilithium, ec, and fleet credits etc. abit obvious.

    Still this would only shift when money is spent, not how much money. Not a non issue, but different. (And the way you proposed does not affect the amount of fleet credits gathered or their speed, actually you would need less dil, ec, etc. for provisioning if you don't have to do that).
    admiralkogar wrote: »
    Are there ship unlocks for the shipyard with the K-13 holding? I never checked. If so, then I suppose the sooner you could unlock them, the sooner you would need Modules, and spend zen.

    Not that I'd be aware. But I am not really invested in this. We'll do our holding and then see what it holds. We'd do it anyway even if it wouldn't contribute anything ;)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    The presence of a shipyard NPC does make one wonder though...
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    stuart1965 wrote: »
    I do appreciate there are time gates on many things, but provisioning needs looking at again.
    The wait for K13 Provisions is long and very slow and to be honest is not in players or cryptics interest.
    I think after each upgrade, K13 tier 1-3, items for sale should be immediately available to buy.
    Surely items available to buy immediately, would attract real money going into the game there and then?
    Ok maybe its wishful thinking, but I hope someone from cryptic reads this, and perhaps get cryptic to consider scrapping the provisions rule for fleet holdings. Moneywise it would be in cryptics interest.

    Moneywise, Cryptic's "best interest" is fulfilled with the 30 minute completion 200k Dilithium "basic blank provisioning" mission(s).

    Mainly because 95% of the playerbase that's exercising this option did so after a trip to the Dilithium Exchange. Which means zen was involved, which means money changed hands to Cryptic (at one point or another)...

    On the other hand, if the 20 hour provision mission was actually set and filled, then you're on the last leg of a long timegate, let it ride and you'll have your shiny soon enough... :)
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    markhawkman wrote: »
    The presence of a shipyard NPC does make one wonder though...

    Well, there's shipyards NPCs in other places without them offering new ships or similar, just for general buying. A new vendor won't make people buy more, only more stuff to buy would.
    dareau wrote: »
    Mainly because 95% of the playerbase that's exercising this option did so after a trip to the Dilithium Exchange.

    I'd really like a cite on this one. Even if it is obviously meant as an exaggeration for "a large part of the playerbase", I'd doubt even that. My theory (but I can't give a cite either) is that the majority of players will maybe grind a bit and apart from that mostly see how far their dil gets them, without purchase of substantial amounts. Not least because other would mean the sellers hardly use any dil themselves, only grind to sell...
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I get where the OP is coming from but I think they're not seeing things from the other end of the spectrum. Large fleets or even small ones with whale-ish players have K-13 at tier one already, it's only a 3 tier holding and once that's closed we'll be returning to the "Need new holding" and "I have nothing to spend my dil on" threads en masse.
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    I get where the OP is coming from but I think they're not seeing things from the other end of the spectrum. Large fleets or even small ones with whale-ish players have K-13 at tier one already, it's only a 3 tier holding and once that's closed we'll be returning to the "Need new holding" and "I have nothing to spend my dil on" threads en masse.

    The K-13 special projects that are being promoted will act like a money sink to some degree. You are still right about that cycle.

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  • angrybobhangrybobh Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    K-13 has, like the other holdings, a basic provisioning for each track that costs dil only and a timer of 30 minutes. Convenient store prices for your convenience. I would hope that is fast enough.
  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    angrybobh wrote: »
    K-13 has, like the other holdings, a basic provisioning for each track that costs dil only and a timer of 30 minutes. Convenient store prices for your convenience. I would hope that is fast enough.

    I support this comment.

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