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Returning to the 23rd Century?

colonelmarikcolonelmarik Member Posts: 2,221 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
So, I've been playing my 23c character. Before leaving the 23rd Century, I picked up the Edren IV mission. Once I was in the "present," I found I could return to the 23rd Century by using the Transwarp to mission button. This allowed me to return to 23c Earth Spacedock, which meant I could continue to pick up 23rd Century Bridge Officers.

Today, I thought I'd go back and get a couple of new officers, but I found the transwarp function just took me to the present day Edren. Nice that I can still do the MISSION, but not so nice that I can't get to the 23rd Century anymore.

Anyone know of any other way?
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    Sling Shot across the sun next time you get stuck on one
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    can you still pack your BO into the mail box and ship them like cargo?
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    colonelmarik wrote: »
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    can you still pack your BO into the mail box and ship them like cargo?

    I don't think so, if I recall correctly, they bind on purchase to the character. That means I can't make another character and send the officers to the existing one.
    Pretty sure they do; I know that the 23c. Training Manuals do.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    Join a fleet, wait for K-13 to get going. That's kind of a return to the 23rd C.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Arent those boffs low quality anyway? Low quality are undesirable.

    Maybe someday we can get upgradable boffs and low quality boffs will have a use.
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    Yeah, it'd be nice since we're Temporal Agents to ask Phillip Crey on ESD to send us back to the 23c ESD. It could be its own instance to keep our level 60 characters from interacting with the new level 1 characters, just as long as all the services are still there. Heck, make it a hub for level 60 adventures in the 23rd century!
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    Arent those boffs low quality anyway? Low quality are undesirable.

    Maybe someday we can get upgradable boffs and low quality boffs will have a use.

    Some people - in fact, quite a few judging by these forums - want to go with 23c theming even if it's sub-optimal in game mechanics. Because, y'know, fun.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    Yep, I have the VR mission reward boffs, Delta Pack VR boffs and the LTS android but ignore them all in favor of 23rd C white-quality boffs.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Why?
  • captainkorakcaptainkorak Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    I was seriously disappointed when my 23rd century character ended up in the 25th century :(

    I would rather stay and play in the 23rd century for good.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Well why about the boffs?
    Whats the real difference between 23c and regular. You put two vulcans and two humans and two tellarites together and you cant tell them apart
  • lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Join a fleet, wait for K-13 to get going. That's kind of a return to the 23rd C.

    It's not a bug, it's a feature. :wink: It might go some lengths to explain why there was never a way to get back, not when the K-13 holding has basically everything you would want to buy in 23c ESD.
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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    lopequil wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Join a fleet, wait for K-13 to get going. That's kind of a return to the 23rd C.

    It's not a bug, it's a feature. :wink: It might go some lengths to explain why there was never a way to get back, not when the K-13 holding has basically everything you would want to buy in 23c ESD.

    Yeah, but what about those folks who aren't part of a Fleet?
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    lopequil wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Join a fleet, wait for K-13 to get going. That's kind of a return to the 23rd C.

    It's not a bug, it's a feature. :wink: It might go some lengths to explain why there was never a way to get back, not when the K-13 holding has basically everything you would want to buy in 23c ESD.

    Yeah, but what about those folks who aren't part of a Fleet?

    Just like with Fleet Spire and Embassy Kits, R&D/DOff/Admiralty slots that require the Fleet Research Lab, etc, it's all part of trying to make players join Fleets to get stuff they can't as solo players.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    Well why about the boffs?
    Whats the real difference between 23c and regular. You put two vulcans and two humans and two tellarites together and you cant tell them apart

    For starters beam in/out effects and, second, 23c tellarites are VERY different.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    lopequil wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Join a fleet, wait for K-13 to get going. That's kind of a return to the 23rd C.

    It's not a bug, it's a feature. :wink: It might go some lengths to explain why there was never a way to get back, not when the K-13 holding has basically everything you would want to buy in 23c ESD.

    Yeah, but what about those folks who aren't part of a Fleet?

    Honestly, this has to be the most annoying thing about STO. I don't think I've ever seen so much content locked behind not just being in a guild, but being a huge guild that can afford all these projects.

    It's truly baffling, too. Re-building stuff like K-13 is often used in MMORPGs as busy work to keep players busy in between major content patches. Instead, it's just walled off from most people, I would say.

  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Koda, not if you have unlocked the appearance at the tailor then you can make your fed tellarites look 23c.
    That is what i based my answer on.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    Koda, not if you have unlocked the appearance at the tailor then you can make your fed tellarites look 23c.
    That is what i based my answer on.

    Do the beam-out effects match? What about the Andorian antenna position?

    If "modern" feds can be made to look 100% 23rd C then I guess I could replace mine, but they've been fine through the Delta arc and Kobali dailies. I haven't done the Iconian arc with my TOS captain yet.

  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    How do beam out effects affect gameplay?

    I cant get matching beam out effects on my roms, so I have to live with that.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    You can, after you have it unlocked, make all Gorn/Tellarite/Andorians look exactly the same, no matter whether they're 23rd or 25th. Same probably for Vulcans and Humans if there's a difference to start with, which I wouldn't have noticed so far. But yes, you can make a 23rd look like a 25th and vice versa.
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    How do beam out effects affect gameplay?

    They don't. But they do affect feel for some. For me it's already the different symbol for 23rd and 25th boffs, which will always remind me that I had to cheat on my Vulcan, since he forgot one boff to buy. (Also, 23rd still have different animations, namely the standard "standing" animation, in the character selection screen, instead of the kneeling down and watching your padd ones 25th got).

    But it is similar to the question somebody asked a while ago about why people are thinking so much about names or looks for boffs and ships, if they don't change anything at all. Some are in the game for the mechanics, some for the story, most for a little of both. I know a similar situation from my main hobby, board gaming, where there is a distinction between "American" style games, which start with the story and then add the mechanic, and "European" or "German" style games, which start with the mechanic and then add the story. Fortunately both learned a lot from each other, so we're more and more getting the best of both worlds, but then, different people prefer different things.

    Me, I have enough toons to do everything. Try and max my builds on my older ones, have some more story for my newer ones. They may never reach the top DPS but they'll have stories to tell.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    K-13 is the answer. If your objection is joining a fleet in general, look at it this way: You appear to be willing to make all kinds of concessions to playing the game in order to keep the 23c Theme going, including using substandard BOffs just to have the right beam out. Why not make the concession of joining a fleet? Many fleets would be happy to let you in to get what you want, no strings attached.

    At this point, whining about stuff not being accessible because you don't want to join a fleet is asinine.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • xayssxayss Member Posts: 391 Arc User
    use delorian to travel time i cant resist say that XD
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    considering how many fleets with t5 there are and place 0 requirement on a new player to contribute or chat... I can't see any decent reason to avoid fleets in sto
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Yep, I have the VR mission reward boffs, Delta Pack VR boffs and the LTS android but ignore them all in favor of 23rd C white-quality boffs.
    My TOS character has been dressing them in TOS outfits. :D
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    ummm have you tried the numerous repeatable DOFF recruitment options at Klink Academy/NRC/Fed Academy?
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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