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New T6 Jem'Hadar ships question
chitowngrizz420
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I read the news on the Jem'Hader ship upgrading and I was a little confused. The info says,
"In addition to these added items, we’re very excited to announce the inclusion of new Tier-6 versions of a few of our previous Tier-5 Lock Box starships! Each of these new vessels will be replacing their Tier-5 counterparts"
From what this is saying is all the T5 dominion ships are being turned into T6. My question is are our T5 versions we have active going to automatically be converted to T6?
"In addition to these added items, we’re very excited to announce the inclusion of new Tier-6 versions of a few of our previous Tier-5 Lock Box starships! Each of these new vessels will be replacing their Tier-5 counterparts"
From what this is saying is all the T5 dominion ships are being turned into T6. My question is are our T5 versions we have active going to automatically be converted to T6?
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Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
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Because, when you opened your T5 Jem'Hadar ship, you got exactly what you wanted: a T5 Jem'Hadar ship. Just because the game changes in the future, and your T5 Jem'Hadar ship is made obsolete, doesn't mean you get a free upgrade.
Not so much the same since the T5 bugship had no console part of the set and the T6 versions are new updated ships with the console. The Dread and Escort carriers are literally being over written to replace the T5 and has the exact same consoles.
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
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First, you may think that the T6 ship is just the T5 ship re-issued, and Cryptic is trying to sell you what you already have. If so, it's simple. Don't buy it. Why would you buy something the same as what you already have?
Second option, you think the T6 ships are significantly better than the T5 ships were, and you want to buy them therefore. If so, you're clearly not being asked to buy something you've already got, are you? You're buying a new ship that's better. If it helps you sleep at night, pretend it's a completely different ship with a different name. It just happens to be similar in profile to something else you liked before.
If we say we want to buy the new ship, and then claim we should get it free or discounted because it's the same as what we've got, we're being willfully contradictory. Free stuff is awesome, no doubt. But it's not time for the Winter Event yet.
Ok, not so much the same because of the console thing, but my point still stands.
Put some pilot seats on that beast!!
It isn't about what's ethical, what's moral, or what's right. The precedent has already been set. Enough players said they didn't care, and to bring it on. They're willing to throw hundreds (or thousands of dollars) at master keys all over again. The avalanche started a while ago, the pebbles no longer have a vote.
You and I are both in the minority. But still, enough people are in the majority that they said it was cool. And that's fine. I like seeing Cryptic getting monetary support, and they could do so much worse with the execution of this T6 lockbox ship roll-out.
I may not like it, but I've gotten over it.
@crypticspartan#0627 are you out there?
The real offenders to me were things like the original flagship packs - 3 identical looking ships for the prize of 2? Not really a great deal.
All T6 variants have a new customization options. Ships with interchangeable parts basically means getting 3 to 8 new ship design options. Being able to make a ship my own is valuable to me. I think it is a fair price.
This time its a little different from past ships since they are being discontinued. The T5 versions are literally being replaced with the exact same ships with the exact same consoles with just a starship trait added and a hybrid seat.
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That's a good point, given Consoles release schedules of ships, I can see the T6 treatment of existing lockbox/lobi T5s over a long period of time to be released as well and be placed in infinity boxes, which is great assuming enough players still open infinity boxes and not just for the new T6.
Thanks for putting it that way, was considering getting a T6 JHDC for my delta, a character that already has the T5 JHDC, but I never use command abilities on my ships that have the seating (command absolutely sucks imho, even if it does make sense), and the addition of a trait isn't enough to get me to buy it.
If T7 happens, I will be eager to see the tears flow by all these shocked players.
You can use the old skins on these T6s, but not kit-bash the two versions together.
Confirmed in tomorrow's patch notes as the JHDC being Infinity Box and JHEC being Lobi. I find it odd that the two are flipped in which store they belong too, compared to the how the T5s were. Particularly annoying as the JHEC got a specification bump and its console gained nice passives, and now it'll be more expensive when buying with EC than the JHDC thanks to it being Lobi instead of drop.