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roborobin96
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I have an idea for the next part of the story.
Essentially, it is a STO equivalent to the novelverse's http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Typhon_Pact. In the novels, it is an alliance of multiple powers against the Federation. Here, there could be races trying to counterbalance the Alpha Quadrant Alliance. A good explanation would be that some races got wary of the Alliance's temporal technology they started developing, and feel threatened.
In the novels, its members are the Romulan Star Empire, the Tholian Assembly, the Breen Confederacy, the Gorn Hegemony, the Tzenkethi Coalition and the Holy Order of the Kinshaya.
Four of them are already in the game, and I'm going to list possible reasons for them to form/join such an alliance.
1. Romulan Star Empire: This should be pretty clear, they want to destroy the Romulan Republic and an alliance with other powers might improve their position. Sela might be included in this too.
2. Tholian Assembly: The on-again off-again villains of STO. In the Temporal Accords, they said they'd prefer no alterations to the timeline at all, so it's clear why they might be wary of the Alliance developing temporal technology.
3. Breen Confederacy: Their blunder in Deferi space, on top of having lost the Dominion War. They simply might want to improve their standing in the quadrant.
4. Gorn Hegemony: I guess you can all see where this one is going. They want to emancipate themselves from the Klingons, and the Pact might allow them to do so.
Now, with the remaining two, this won't be so easy. The Tzenkethi were only mentioned in DS9, we never saw them on screen. They were fleshed out in the novelverse, and I found their concept (and their looks) quite interesting. The producer who came up with the name imagined them as "heavily armored lizard things", but that would be pretty uninteresting, especially since we already have the Gorn and the Voth. They are slightly easier to get into the the game because they are canon, but it remains to be seen how they would be implemented. The Kinshaya however are exclusive to the novels, which will make implementing them pretty difficult. Again, I found their concept quite interesting (and relevant to today's state of the world). They might have to be replaced by a canon power (Sheliak Corporate, maybe?), though.
This "Cold War" concept could create tension and give us an opportunity to explore various species.
What do you think of this concept? And would you want different members in the Pact?
Essentially, it is a STO equivalent to the novelverse's http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Typhon_Pact. In the novels, it is an alliance of multiple powers against the Federation. Here, there could be races trying to counterbalance the Alpha Quadrant Alliance. A good explanation would be that some races got wary of the Alliance's temporal technology they started developing, and feel threatened.
In the novels, its members are the Romulan Star Empire, the Tholian Assembly, the Breen Confederacy, the Gorn Hegemony, the Tzenkethi Coalition and the Holy Order of the Kinshaya.
Four of them are already in the game, and I'm going to list possible reasons for them to form/join such an alliance.
1. Romulan Star Empire: This should be pretty clear, they want to destroy the Romulan Republic and an alliance with other powers might improve their position. Sela might be included in this too.
2. Tholian Assembly: The on-again off-again villains of STO. In the Temporal Accords, they said they'd prefer no alterations to the timeline at all, so it's clear why they might be wary of the Alliance developing temporal technology.
3. Breen Confederacy: Their blunder in Deferi space, on top of having lost the Dominion War. They simply might want to improve their standing in the quadrant.
4. Gorn Hegemony: I guess you can all see where this one is going. They want to emancipate themselves from the Klingons, and the Pact might allow them to do so.
Now, with the remaining two, this won't be so easy. The Tzenkethi were only mentioned in DS9, we never saw them on screen. They were fleshed out in the novelverse, and I found their concept (and their looks) quite interesting. The producer who came up with the name imagined them as "heavily armored lizard things", but that would be pretty uninteresting, especially since we already have the Gorn and the Voth. They are slightly easier to get into the the game because they are canon, but it remains to be seen how they would be implemented. The Kinshaya however are exclusive to the novels, which will make implementing them pretty difficult. Again, I found their concept quite interesting (and relevant to today's state of the world). They might have to be replaced by a canon power (Sheliak Corporate, maybe?), though.
This "Cold War" concept could create tension and give us an opportunity to explore various species.
What do you think of this concept? And would you want different members in the Pact?
Who's the prettiest of them all?
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Romulan star empire
Tholian Assmebley
Breen Confederacy
The True Way
Terran Empire
Na'Kuhl
The point is to have a "Cold War" where there are skirmishes or wars by proxy but both sides never actually face one another other, other then skirmishes here and there similar to how the klingons and federation did during the first khit accords.
So much this. Star Trek is mostly about exploration. Either by "to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life, and new civilizations" or to explore the human condition. Although, it seems like there will always be a new enemy to defeat. If we can't have exploration, then I rather encounter the First Federation and other races to see how they are doing since we last saw them than have something from the Novel Universe.
There is also the problem of licensing for the Typhon Pact. Cryptic would have to get the rights to use the Typhon Pact in STO even if they use another name, but the same group of alien races.
The Romulan star empire still exists although its a shell of what it once was, and the only thing (as far as sela is concerned) standing in the way of a total rebirth of the RSE, is the federation and its allies namely the romulan republic.
So actually i could see sela actually being the driving force in forming the typhon pact.
as i said its a shell of what it once was, but in selas eyes its only where it is because of the federation and the republic aka sela blaming everyone else for her screwups.
I can also see sela being the driving force behind the formation of the typhon pact.
Even a bunch of races come together to form an anti-alliance could be a legal problem if it is done similar to the Typhon Pact. The current Krenim rebels, Sphere Builders, Terran Empire, Na'kuhl, Vorgan, and I might be missing a few others alliance fits the anti-alliance concept well enough that a Typhon Pact would be redundant.
did you miss the blog where she makes her escape from earth? she does what blames the federation and their allies for the whole thing, she took 0 responsibility for it but blames others for her actions.
However, the novels have developed kind of their own ST universe and timeline that diverges significantly from the STOverse (Romulus not destroyed in the novels f.e.).
Something similar to the TP would be nice to have, but then again, this kind of no shooting, espionage, high-tension atmosphere is impossible to translate into STO, where - as a rule - we kill 5 groups of enemies and perhaps a boss to complete a mission.
I don't see it working.
"Another war" wasn't really what I had in mind when I posted this idea. I even said that this could give us the opportunity to explore various species by fleshing them out more, and maybe even introduce some new ones that we can make contact with and try to sway to our side. The concept includes exploration - with a political component.
Who's the prettiest of them all?
it sounds quite interesting, but if i remember well Tzenkethi Coalition isn't so "technological" advanced that it should present any real threat, while Breen Confederacy maybe lost Dominion war, but they didn't suffered large casulites like the Cardassians, and they then become one of major Military power in quadrant. Tho their power hungry could explain why they would ally with other powers.
So its quite fascinating idea and it will be interesting to see will STO develop in that way.
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^This.
Who's the prettiest of them all?
While most of these would be good, for in-game purposes, some don't make sense.
The True Way, for example, probably wouldn't have as much power or support as they got without the discreet aide of the Terran Empire (which itself became allied with the Temporal Liberation Front). Their concerns are also incredibly narrow: they just want to take over Cardassia, and seem to care for little else. Also, the Terran Empire is out as, depending on the point in time in the game, they are either already allied with the TLF or have retreated to their home space.
Swap them for the New Link, who'd probably look for an alliance that would help preserve their privacy.
The Star Empire also makes little sense, as they seem too preoccupied with their own internal conflicts to devote much to forging an alliance with other governments (if they even had the disposition to do so, frankly).
Use the opportunity to introduce the Tzkenkethi, finally. Since the Tzenkethi are relatively unknown in canon Trek, Cryptic can do as they please with them.
In the present, people seem to forget that the Na'kuhl are relatively underdeveloped compared to their neighbors. They are also now incredibly suspicious of outsiders. Even though they eventually develop some kind of alliance or understanding with the Federation, it probably won't be any time soon, and they probably just want to be left alone for now.
No one needs to replace them in the lineup, as a four member Typhon Pact seems sufficient.
Except that the Federation (or KDF or RR) exposed the traitor founder (who was working with the Terrans and True Way), placed "do not disturb" beacons, and all three are more likely to respect their privacy than other empires. So the new link is off the table too barring new timey-wimey retcons.
Certainly its parent body found some comfort in establishing borders around their residences larger than a couple of light hours...
They may feel uncomfortable at the new Alliance that formed between the Federation, the Empire, and the RRW, in the wake of the Iconian War.
Plus, we don't know how they themselves fared through it. They may have suffered losses of their own, but not wanting to ally with former enemies, turned to closer just as secretive allies nearby.
It's parent body had the time and resources to actually do that. For all the Jem'hadar pretend they let you go after the mission is over, the New Link was at the mercy of a single starship. While it's unlikely the Alliance would've actually destroyed them, if they had turned out hostile we would've finished off what was left of their military, hoovered them all up from their puddle and sent them back to their own kind in the gamma quadrant like a giant slush drink.