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Lifetime Sub transfer?

columba13columba13 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I played Star Trek Online on PC back before the launch with the beta, and so loved the game that I ended up paying for a Lifetime Subscription. I haven't played the game for a while due to lack of an adequate PC, but I was really excited when they first announced it was coming to Xbox One and PS4. I downloaded the game on my Xbox and have been really enjoying it so far. The UI feels really good, and the controls on console - while perhaps not as precise or extensive as on PC - work great. I'm likely not going to come back to PC after playing on Xbox, even if I get a gaming PC again.

I'm a little bummed there's no cross-play, but I understand the reasoning. What I'm most curious about, however, is the possibility of my Lifetime Sub transferring over to Xbox. Ultimately it'll be up to developer discretion, but I'm just wondering if it's a possibility, because the PC account and the Xbox account are both linked to ARC.

Any ideas on whether or not this could be a thing? I'd gladly forgo all my benefits on PC if it meant I could switch the Lifetime sub over to Xbox.

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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    Nope, they have not announced any plans to offer this.

    Microsoft / Sony might also be against it since they get a cut of all STO purchases on consoles. Cryptic might have to charge you $20 - $60 to cover that share even if they could get approval.
  • columba13columba13 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Nope, they have not announced any plans to offer this.

    Microsoft / Sony might also be against it since they get a cut of all STO purchases on consoles. Cryptic might have to charge you $20 - $60 to cover that share even if they could get approval.

    I'd probably be okay with some kind of nominal fee for the transfer. Seems like something they could offer just for the customer service brownie points and good PR it would generate. Hopefully they are, or will be, considering it for the future.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    I hope they never offer this. As a PC player I can see a lot of friends who would jump ship to play consoles if this were offered, and that would be a bad thing for the PC playerbase.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • columba13columba13 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    bergins wrote: »
    I hope they never offer this. As a PC player I can see a lot of friends who would jump ship to play consoles if this were offered, and that would be a bad thing for the PC playerbase.

    So your preference would be to limit the choices of your friends, preventing them from playing on the their system of choice?
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    columba13 wrote: »
    bergins wrote: »
    I hope they never offer this. As a PC player I can see a lot of friends who would jump ship to play consoles if this were offered, and that would be a bad thing for the PC playerbase.

    So your preference would be to limit the choices of your friends, preventing them from playing on the their system of choice?
    As long as this change isn't reality, I don't have to do anything.

    Leaving my friends out of it, the fact that this would be bad for the PC playerbase stands.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    I could also see this generating the usual whine-storm of rabble rabble rabble.

    Cryptic offers the transfer now, explaining they can only transfer unlocks that already exist on consoles and that everything else will be lost in the transfer.

    6 months later they add a lock box ship that the player owned.

    "Where's ma ship! I ownsed it! I wants it! RAGE!!!"
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Yeah, the Technical aspects of this would end up being a nightmare for both PWE/Cryptic and the players.

    But the forum rage would be glorious.

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  • siliconpsychosiliconpsycho Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    If, and I stress IF, they did have some kinda subscription transfer, would you like them to delete everything in the free account bank, inventory, ship roster, drydock roster, over the 10m ECcap, doff, boff, Character and other assorted storage slots / benefits you received as a lifer, on your PC account?

    Everyone's answer would be no, and that's why they wont
  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    I understand the reasoning is greed honestly.

    There is no actual reason why we can't take our characters with us after spending months and months building up crafting, commendations, specialization points, fleets, and once in a lifetime items from lifetime memberships and anniversaries.

    Nothing can justify that.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    the1tigglet wrote: »
    I understand the reasoning is greed honestly.

    There is no actual reason why we can't take our characters with us after spending months and months building up crafting, commendations, specialization points, fleets, and once in a lifetime items from lifetime memberships and anniversaries.

    Nothing can justify that.

    Now if the PC and console versions were synched up properly with consoles getting everything that the PC gets, then it might be possible. However, consoles are currently missing out on Fleets, Crafting, Admiralty, Duty Officers, and Agents of Yesterday content.

    If we had Lifetime transfers available right now, then I would lose all my progress from the Temporal Reputation, lose my TOS Starfleet character with all their Temporal Agent Recruitment unlocks, and any items from the Kelvin Lockbox and the new Tier 6 TOS Constitution if I had them. There is also the problem of how Cryptic will deal with Crafting, Duty Officers, and Admiralty. Would you be able to get all your progress back once these systems are available or will everyone start at zero?

    The only way for it to happen is wait for the PC and console versions to synch up and have a limited time transfer event. However, they won't do it until every new console user can acquire the various Account unlocked Event rewards that we have obtained over the years since Cryptic has to keep things fair for the console users and former PC users.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    ... and they still may need to charge $20 - $60 to satisfy Microsoft and Sony, if they can get them to agree.

    Bethesda planned to add user mods to Fallout 4 on X1 and PS4. Microsoft agreed but they could not get Sony to sign off on it. No mods for PS4.
  • columba13columba13 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    siliconpsycho wrote: »
    If, and I stress IF, they did have some kinda subscription transfer, would you like them to delete everything in the free account bank, inventory, ship roster, drydock roster, over the 10m ECcap, doff, boff, Character and other assorted storage slots / benefits you received as a lifer, on your PC account?

    Everyone's answer would be no, and that's why they wont

    I'd say yes, just because the odds of my being able to go back to PC are very slim. Playing STO on Xbox is better than not playing it at all.
  • ueturuetur Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    the1tigglet wrote: »
    I understand the reasoning is greed honestly.

    There is no actual reason why we can't take our characters with us after spending months and months building up crafting, commendations, specialization points, fleets, and once in a lifetime items from lifetime memberships and anniversaries.

    Nothing can justify that.

    I don't think it is greed because the number one thing a game like this wants to do is increase its player base so that you get more people buying lockboxes new ships that come out bring their friends into the game, etc. Not allowing some level of cross platform support while totally normal can potentially hurt the overall player base. This probably hurts overall revenue.

    My guess is you have an issue where Xbox and PS and STO don't have the resources to do Cross Platform Play correctly, via contract won't allow differences between each of these games, and don't really have the corporate drive to go for longer term sales versus shorter term purchases.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    Transferring a lifetime subscription and transferring your actual assets on the PC are two different things. But assuming the lifetime could be transferred..... do your liberated Borg characters just vanish on the PC ?

    It has way too many repercussions, also they don't want people to switch, they want new people to join and spend money.
  • flumfflumf Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    The console doesn't have a subscription, there is a bundle on the console c-store which is called lifetime subscription but it is not an actual sub. The Lifetime subscription bundle on console is just a great big expensive bundle that has all of the lifetime sub perks and all of the veteran sub rewards included, it does not give the 500 zen per month stipend for the lifetime of the game that the lifetime sub on pc gives.
  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    Too lazy to search the existing forum threads, huh OP?

    Already answered....this is not happening.
    You can close the thread now, ForumJesus.
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