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jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
Hate to say this but at this junction, the only species that can be made a faction would be the borg, unless cryptic in their infinite incompetence starts putting borg ships in boxes (Truth be told i expect that soon).

Cryptic is pretty much showing us they are not interested, in doing an expansion on the level of LoR ever again sad really, and with the console version being developed and worked on , what resources could they put into a new faction, tbh im starting to wonder how long the game has left , im only seeing money grab after money grab but nothing as far as real gorwth, even the console version is just a way to grab a new source of money.

Sure its a business as the white knights and cryptic fanbois would tout , but with newer and better games coming out and on the horizon, how long can this game compete with such titles like "No mans sky" and what not, sooner or later everyone will need to face facts that STO is not in a good place, and cryptic needs to relise whether you have the players or not ,new factions keep players already in game interested and will attract new players if for anything else so they can play their favorite race.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    I am fine with the current 3 factions no need to add more... especially since the 4th faction will still be tiny compared to the Fed faction and I think smaller than the Romulan faction which has lowest number of captains.

    I think a 4th faction will just drain resources away from other aspects of the game especially since it takes resources to develop and test ships. Sales of ships may not even recoup the cost to develop and test them. Time and money are resources that are better spent elsewhere to improve the game for everyone rather than a possible small minority interest in a 4th faction.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,660 Arc User
    but with newer and better games coming out and on the horizon, how long can this game compete with such titles like "No mans sky" and what not

    Quite easily. You apparently haven't been paying attention to how badly that one fizzled post-launch :)
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,284 Arc User
    Yeah Hooray for the BORGs!!!​​
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    but with newer and better games coming out and on the horizon, how long can this game compete with such titles like "No mans sky" and what not

    Quite easily. You apparently haven't been paying attention to how badly that one fizzled post-launch :)

    Yeah, I think two days after it's release it received a new unofficial name of "No Man's Lie".
  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    We don't need more micro factions.
    If anything we somehow need the Romulan faction to be expanded to stand entirely on its own.

    The Classic Big 3 have always been the Federation, Klingons and Romulans.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    If there were going to be a new faction, not a mini fact like the aoy or romulan are, than I think it should be a delta-quad faction that comprise several of the larger races of that quadrant. I dcoud see it being you can choose to play as a rebel Vaadwaur, Voth, Hazari, Banthen, borg coupertive, and maybe one other race like the Turei.

    Though i would much rather see these be a semi-faction that either you can have as your main faction ala fed/Kdf, or as a faction we as players can opt to join with a current existing captain. This way you can have different points of view of many different missions via you joining different factions, but also that all such content is available to all players (maybe have the truly high end ships an gear for that faction locked behind being a full-member of the faction).

    To me this is how factions should be honestly in that you start factionless maybe in one of the faction's areas, but than you can elect to join one of the factions thru game-play as you move thru the universe, but can elect to shift your alliance between different factions as well. This would make all of the content playable an usable by the playerbase, and that players might actually feel more faction pride then they even do now.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    We don't need more micro factions.
    If anything we somehow need the Romulan faction to be expanded to stand entirely on its own.

    The Classic Big 3 have always been the Federation, Klingons and Romulans.

    Romulan standalone will never happen as the game is coded to be a two faction game for pvp concerns (listens to the howls of laughter at the mention of pvp in this game).

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  • desdinova216desdinova216 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    Romulan standalone will never happen as the game is coded to be a two faction game for pvp concerns (listens to the howls of laughter at the mention of pvp in this game).

    There's pvp in this game?
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  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 641 Arc User
    It's obvious that the next new faction, if there is one, should be Cardassian. Given everything they went through in the Dominion War there's no shortage of story material that they can use.
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    I could see the cardassians getting a full story arc, maybe a place in a faction coming up, but a stand alone cardassian faction that might be like the Kdf not so sure. that comes from just how weak the actual faction would be kinda like how the romulans feel kinda after the hobus event. Though I can say that it would have been interesting if we saw a cardassian/romulan faction with maybe the alpha Jem'hadar bringing the full romulan faction up to five races, and which would have a good selection of ship types as well. Also I could easily see the obsidian order as well as the Tal Shiar being good early story arc villains, while the romulan republic an cardassians liberated from the obsidian order after their fall could see use in allying.
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  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    Sheliak Corporate perhaps?
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,468 Arc User
    Yet another 'Vote for a new faction' thread *Rolls eyes*. Just had one last week. Even if this thread doesn't provide a poll options, it's still a poll!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    Tamarian Union also
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    None, least of all the friggin' Borg. The next logical step would be Cardassians, but I don't see that happening. What should be done is a further expansion of the Republic. As alexraptorr has rightly stated, the Romulans, alongside the Federation and Klingon have always been the big three, and the excuse (not reason) that they're tied down because of the launch PvP setup is just that; an excuse.

    Cryptic should have made more than enough money from it's playerbase by now to employ enough intelligent people to rewrite their launch code a little to enable a proper third faction, and that faction should be the Republic. Cardassian characters (and bridge officers) should be added to the c-store (or lobi store if necessary), and the Borg should remain isolated from being playable, though wih CBS's eventual grant of a T6 Constitution, I wouldn't put playable Borg completely out of reach.

    If Cryptic ever felt the need to release another full faction (excluding Republic here) then they should get really creative and create something from scratch; flesh them out, give them a purpose, a fleet, and a reason for players to be interested in playing them rather than the Federation; such may even attract more players who don't want a Trek experience, but would like a space experience.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    What about a new race? Something we can play as we crush the Federation Alliance!

    Failing that, just expand the current three with more stories. (Maybe a Cardassian Arc? That has Cardassian themed missions)
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  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    *Yawn* we still only have two "factions" in game- Fed and KDF.

    Romulans are attached to either/or but still can't play as their own "faction".

    That said, they need to sort out the mess they've already created before they introduce more "factions" into the game.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    That said, they need to sort out the mess they've already created before they introduce more "factions" into the game.
    They need to give people a reason for playing different factions before they even consider making more.

    If you're playing as a FED, you should be primarily suited to say, SCI & ENG, if you're KDF, you should be suited to TAC & ENG, and if Republic, maybe TAC & SCI? Break them up a bit, maybe develop unique and specific abilities or skills for each faction? Klingons could have (alongside Tactical, Pilot etc) a Warrior themed ability set, the Federation could have a Diplomacy themed set of abilities or something?

    There's so much they could have done, though I fear most of that is too late by now. Instead we've got the KDF which are a lesser played carbon copy of the FED, and then the Republic are even less than that! So much wasted potential.

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  • catsmeatcatsmeat Member Posts: 106 Arc User
    Kilrathi!
  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 641 Arc User
    *Yawn* we still only have two "factions" in game- Fed and KDF.

    Romulans are attached to either/or but still can't play as their own "faction".

    That said, they need to sort out the mess they've already created before they introduce more "factions" into the game.

    The first thing that needs to happen is to add a security officer to New Romulus so that prisoners and contraband can be offloaded- if there actually is one I've certainly never seen him/her.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    The first thing that needs to happen is to add a security officer to New Romulus so that prisoners and contraband can be offloaded - if there actually is one I've certainly never seen him/her.
    There isn't. The community (the Republic community) has been asking for this, and better Republic Boff acquisition for ages, to no avail.

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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I had always hoped for a True Way type faction that combined the Dominion and Cardassians, but Cryptic has already released the majority of their ships as T5 and T6 box prizes. I guess that leaves only the Borg Cooperative.
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    Don't know about any species that are left, but there is one species that would be right to add as a faction:
    Voth.

    Doesn't necessarily have to be a full faction, something like AoY could work too: just a handful of missions that explain your arrival in the Alliance, and then you're just another playable species within that alliance.

    I think that would be the best way to add new 'factions': just as playable species, preferably with some premium variant that has an unique active ability trait, with a couple of unique episodes and maybe a small unique social zone. Full factions should not be added anymore imo. It's just not possible to properly maintain them and we end up being part of the same Alliance anyway so I don't see the need for true unique factions.
  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    Vaadwaur supremacy, Terran Empire, Romulan Star Empire, Lyran star empire, hydran empire, liberated Gorn Hegemony, Tholians, Krenim Imeprium, Zahl Technocracy, Kazon Sects, Bentheans, B'Omari Sovergainity, Quaranns, Q, Ferengi Alliance, Cardassian Union, Suliban state(at some point), Son'a, Quantum singularity life forms which lives inside romulan ships, Organians, that black thing in space from TOS and TNG, that looks like hole in space, Terran Empire, Hurq, Voth, Breen, Deferi, Species 8472/Undine, Na'Kuhl, Iconians, Tamarians, etc.......etc...etc and many not yet discovered
  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 641 Arc User
    Vaadwaur supremacy, Terran Empire, Romulan Star Empire, Lyran star empire, hydran empire, liberated Gorn Hegemony, Tholians, Krenim Imeprium, Zahl Technocracy, Kazon Sects, Bentheans, B'Omari Sovergainity, Quaranns, Q, Ferengi Alliance, Cardassian Union, Suliban state(at some point), Son'a, Quantum singularity life forms which lives inside romulan ships, Organians, that black thing in space from TOS and TNG, that looks like hole in space, Terran Empire, Hurq, Voth, Breen, Deferi, Species 8472/Undine, Na'Kuhl, Iconians, Tamarians, etc.......etc...etc and many not yet discovered

    If we're going down that route, let's include the Mirak Star League and the Interstellar Concordium.
  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 376 Arc User
    Honestly at this point id just like cardassian fed/kdf.

    Just let me get a proper cardassian character model and uniforms.i can take care of the ships.

    Emersion already tanked with all my Roms having to be aligned
  • hugin1205hugin1205 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    Borg Cooperative
    Jem'Hadar
    Cardassians
    Ferengi

    Are all species with large enough fanbases to warrant a possible faction of some kind according to repeated statements by Cryptic devs.

    Cardassians and Jem'Haddar could be together in one faction - either "old" dominion or new way
    Ferengi are part of Federation - some Ferengi ships could be added though
    Borg should be a different faction

    all those can/could be done in Romulan Fashion ie: join with either Fed or KDF as allied if cryptic doesn'T want to get rid of the faction System.
    And I guess that covers the big species.
    18 characters
    KDF: 2 tacs, 2 engs, 3 scis
    KDF Roms: 3 tacs, 1 eng, 1 scis
    FED: 2 tacs, 1 eng, 2 scis
    TOS: 1 tac
    all on T5 rep (up to temporal)
    all have mastered Intel tree (and some more specs Points)
    highest DPS: 60.982
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