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So.. no character sharing on PC > Console. Great for new players! Sad for current players...
liyamu86
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As the title states, I was excited to try STO on my ps4 and play my toons, linked my account and logged in and yep, no toons.
I can see this as a great way to invite a new player base to the game but what about the people who are currently playing and supporting the game and want a change of game play style/interface?
Does anyone know of an article or post where it is detailed why this was done? If we are sharing the same server then why the hell can we not use our bought and paid for toons?
Dunno about anyone else but this is a bit of a middle finger to us current players in saying "just start again and give us more money" its not really a supportive stance.
Can people please post their reasons for liking or disliking this decision? I surely cannot be the only one who thinks this is a bad outcome from a player base stand point... The game wouldn't be in the state its in or have gotten this far and to this point if it wasn't for us fans so why did we just get shafted?
I can see this as a great way to invite a new player base to the game but what about the people who are currently playing and supporting the game and want a change of game play style/interface?
Does anyone know of an article or post where it is detailed why this was done? If we are sharing the same server then why the hell can we not use our bought and paid for toons?
Dunno about anyone else but this is a bit of a middle finger to us current players in saying "just start again and give us more money" its not really a supportive stance.
Can people please post their reasons for liking or disliking this decision? I surely cannot be the only one who thinks this is a bad outcome from a player base stand point... The game wouldn't be in the state its in or have gotten this far and to this point if it wasn't for us fans so why did we just get shafted?
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Can you find a quote supporting your statement?
And you know the technical reasons as to why this is? Could you please elaborate as to why this would be "impossible"? The two versions may indeed be radically different but not technically "impossible" to implement.
That isn't necessary. Its been stated and known about since literally the day the console announcement was made. You clearly haven't been paying attention
Clearly not, still no harm in asking for an official written statement from the devs on the matter and there is none clearly labelled or visible to find on the website, so clearly you have not been paying to attention to the visibility on the matter but thank you for your less then helpful reply to the topic...
Don't play Neverwinter but that is a shame :-( hopefully in the future it will be addressed.
Of course with enough effort Cryptic could implement a one-way character transfer to console, stripping away all items, traits, unlocks that are not supported by the console. But they would need to keep updating this over and over as the console and PC features change, to deal with what can be moved and what can't. They would probably rather assign developers to work on adding missing features to the consoles instead.
MS and Sony also might not want transfers since they don't get paid for purchases made on PC. SWTOR charges $20 per character for a one-way permanent server transfer, if STO did that and shared the revenue with MS & Sony that might work.
Suppose that is one way to look at it, I was really giddy to try out my ships on the ps4 not start all over again and of course... buy them all over again
https://www.destructoid.com/star-trek-online-console-editions-won-t-have-cross-play-361396.phtml
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4jecph/no_crossplatform_play_no_characteraccount/
Cheers dude, will have a read! Have not really been in the loop past few months but I really do appreciate you linking me the link!
LOL Loved the "Khaaaaaaaaaan" picture in the background but now I'm up to speed and understand, thanks again for sharing. maybe I might start again... maybe... lol
Yeah that is the case, the link above said the same thing which is totally understandable, also considering they are using a new f2p model on the ps4 asking for minor enhancements like being a lifer on pc is also unlikely to be brought over cause it would conflict with the new model. Bit of a shame but overall an understandable one.
Now its just a case of is it decent to play on the ps4/xbox and worth starting again
If I desired to play the PC version, I would have to buy the PC version. Anything and everything that I did on Xbox 360 wouldn't transfer over. The same would be true for all of the console and PC games that I own. FIFA, Deus Ex, Skyrim, Fallout 4, among many many others. STO is no different.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
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I'm going to be real with you for a minute as a few things need to be said and pointed out.
First, the move to console is NOT meant to attract pc players to the console and it's not geared towards pc players. It's meant to bring new people to the game that otherwise would never be able to play it, or have no interest in playing it. Linking pc and console servers together is a monumental task technologically as there's literally hundreds and even thousands of variables to take into account. The thought of being able to play with folks on console while you're on your pc is cool, but not always practical or possible.
We're not sharing the same server as consoles and pcs are on different servers. In most of the hundreds if not thousands of games out there that are cross platform, if you go from one platform to another you've traditionally never been able to transfer anything from one platform to the other. This is no different here.
Again, this is NOT and I repeat NOT, meant for current players, so the thought that this is a "middle finger to current players" is complete foolishness. This is a brand new launch on a brand new platform. If you want to go to console as well, more power to you, however this was not, and is not, geared towards getting current players to go to the console. To be perfectly blunt since we're all adults, or of reasonable age at least, I'm not sure what gave you people the idea this was meant for the rest of us on pc, but if you thought this was meant for us, you've been comatose to the last 20 years of game development. To expect to be able to carry over data in this instance is like expecting to be able to play an old Gamecube game on a PS4. It's essentially 2 completely different games for 2 completely different audiences.
Again you didn't get shafted since it was never meant for you in the first place.
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I'm going to guess you haven't leveled a captain on the PC lately...literally a new level with each mission. Lvl60 is just 60 missions away from start and if you've leveled 8 captains on the PC side and know what you are doing, that should be a breeze.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sto+pc+console+cross+platform+character+swap
Last I checked this wasn't "@mustrumridcully0 Online" so you hardly set the standard on what can and can't be done in STO.
In the end, people here are right, they launched on consoles to expand to new player markets (the console market is around 10x the size of the PC gaming market), not to entice PC players to move to them.
They COULD have made it work, if Sony and MS actually cooperated about cross platform play (which Sony appears to have no interest in other than the occasional "maybe some day" comment, with that day being very close to when hell freezes over with Sony's attitude towards XBox and PC gaming in general), and Cryptic were to port the PC version over to running on the Win10 XBox app instead of their own platform (which is what MS requires for cross platform play), and they worked out a structure to get players to pay them their share of what they import. Needless to say, it wasn't something that was going to work at this point in time.
On the bright side, just like NW, the PC version will benefit greatly from the console versions. We will get the updates and new content first, and bug fixes will be more frequent and thorough because the consoles require a lot of time and effort to patch and goes through stability testing by MS and Sony before it approved, so the new content needs to be stable before they can do so. In the end, we get to keep getting things like we always have, but we'll have fewer bugs and problems overall.