The new Faction is it what you want ?

grazyc2

Ok before the fire starts just wanted to know now that all players had a change to play the new faction, is this what you wanted for a faction or you think that this could have much more love, or maybe you didn't want this at all and wanted a whole other thing. ok I'l keep it simple it's a yes or no poll, so fill out Yes, and your commentary or No, and your commentary. Respect each player in what he writes so please no flaming over people's opinions. Ok let me No what you think ?....

mas134gluck123

Yes,

"more the merrier"

Quote by Cpt. Walker
same works and for STO, can you imagine a universe with lot of new factions, and faction wars for boders, that would be cool

so that we get Dominion, Cardassian Union, Krenim Imperium, Ferengi Alliance, Voths, Vaadwaur supremacy, Kobali, Turei, Romulan Star Empire, Terran Empire, Sheliak Corporate, Quarrans, Organians, ................

And all playble, and some sort for conflicts for border expansion

Tho probability that something like will happen is 0%

But it sounds cool

grazyc2

No,

My own answer is NO, First of there are only 10 Episodes even Romulus had more, The story's are fine till they bring up the Na'Kull I raised a brow then, played on and then with Hunter or Daniels. To say the least is was hasty like the game ran out off time or money. It certainly didn't get my attention. If they wanted to tell about the Time Agents they should do that, and not use the TOS era for that they could run this whole thing in the 25th century as well. Or they should have insert the Klingons and Romulans as well they also have tons off story's in that timeline.

To be honest I feel awkward about this new Faction was it really necessary to finish it like this, a big space map for only Ten missions and why the early launch, and why put in that you have to go true every federation mission from start to end.
It just don't feel complete it feels just cheap that's all I can think of right now. Cryptic for all the money players spend on this game you gave a poor job of launching a new faction the only thing I can applaud is the Graphic Guys they made a bad story look good, that's the only plus on this whole faction, and Scotty very well done indeed !!!

hugin1205

No,

I liked the TOS Flair and this year was certainly the opportunity for bringing this one out. I also liked the account wide rewards - otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered.
I do not see it as a new faction though - as it only is for 6 episodes. Then it's the old faction again.

Comparing this to Legacy of Romulus...
LOR gave us a whole planet to explore
tons of missions
a new faction (unlike this one)
warp cores/sing cores
embassy + consoles
patrols
tons of new ships...

this Season isn't over yet and I expect more to come. It's fun to Play...but I really struggle with the new "faction", even calling it "Mini faction" is a bit odd. Now we have full faction (FED and KDF - one of which isn't supported properly) a half faction (Rom) and a Minifaction (TOS). maybe they should call the latter one a "Fraction"?

peterconnorfirst

Yes,

Yea I like it. Compared to Romulan and Klingon I always liked playing FED most! While every other faction (let it be Borg, Dominion or B’omar) would have been lined up somewhere behind Romulan or Klingon the 23C FED faction managed to become my second favorite in game. Perhaps it is even my most favorite.

Well done Cryptic. Only criticism is that it is too small and could use more exclusive stuff.

On the other hand the new faction is the one which has the most inclusive stuff.

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mas134gluck123

Yes,

i think that usually all new factions polls finish with more NO then yes, i gues the reason is that people want bug fixing instead a new content, tho its understandable but yet i would li

crashdragon wrote: »

No Gorn fix. That killed it for me. Was so looking forward to having a Gorn in the captains chair of a FED ship was going to do a TOS one in the KDF. Was the only reasons why I checked it out.

So I erased my AOY toon that I was using to check it out, if they couldn't be bothered to fix simple things, then I won't play their simple faction.​​

i guess that soon you will be able to play as Gorn fed, as Klingon empire will become a part of federation at least according to memory alpha.

In at least one version of the 26th century, the Klingon Empire and races such as the Ithenites and Xindi joined the Federation. In the 2550s of this timeline, the Federation proved instrumental in halting an invasion of the galaxy by a power known as the Sphere-Builders. This action caused the Sphere-Builders to try to stop the Federation from ever being formed by manipulating the Xindi into attempting to destroy Earth in 2153. (ENT: "Azati Prime") By the timeline's 31st century, the Federation had become embroiled in the Temporal Cold War, attempting to maintain the integrity and outcome of its subjective history. (ENT: "Storm Front", "Storm Front, Part II")

Link: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets

So i guess then Gorn will be in starfleet, also we saw one in The Temporal Front commanding one of federation ships, also one of Gorn in 29 century uniform was been at table also. So soon we will have gorns, and then i will also create one to command his new command flagship to crush and conquer new worlds in name of Federation, thats i wanted to say to explore and meet new one, tho it will be mostly pew pew :P as exploration isn't so popular in mission arc

mustrumridcully0

Yes,

I didn't know I wanted this, but I like it. I probably wuld have liked any type of faction- mini or otherwise, but the AOY stuff might still have one with its most unique feeling, even if there are ever new (mini/sub/)f(r)actions.

angrytarg

The question is difficult to answer.

Is the faction what I wanted? Probably, I mean it's a (kind of) faction with unique missions, lots of unique visuals and abilities and so on. It's just very, very short lived and that's the more important question:

Is the expansion what I wanted? No. I would have welcomed a 23c "parallel game" or "pocketverse" as it was supposedly discussed by Cryptic at one point as a expansion. It would feature all current factions with a 23c version with ships, a few missions and queues and open-ended content (like Star Clusters) to end-game with the option to leave the 23c to partake in regular content but with the option to also return to the 23c. The characters created in the 23c faction would be limited to 23c ships and equipment all the way, though, so they can return here without dirupting the setting. A cross-time-fleet holding would connect those characters to the others.

Creating a 23c character that's only Fed and having the 23c to explore and play in for a whooping six missions without the ability to ever come back is not what I'd call a good way to handle this.​​

warpangel

Yes,

Absolutely. In fact, it's what I want for the old factions, too. Origin stories, not restrictions.

bergins

Yes,

I didn't really want another faction, but...
They didn't really give us a faction.

So yeah. Exactly what I wanted.

horridperson

No,

It had some great classic moments, I bought a few pretty ships that justified running around in TOS costumes all the time but it ended much too fast. TOS Sector Space and the Neutral Zone were begging for tension along that border. I wanted to cause trouble for a bratty god child, trash talk Kor, go on a single season mission to seek out new life. It was a good dream and I would have got away with it too if it wasn't for that rotton Daniels.

angrytarg

horridperson wrote: »

It had some great classic moments, I bought a few pretty ships that justified running around in TOS costumes all the time but it ended much too fast. TOS Sector Space and the Neutral Zone were begging for tension along that border. I wanted to cause trouble for a bratty god child, trash talk Kor, go on a single season mission to seek out new life. It was a good dream and I would have got away with it too if it wasn't for that rotton Daniels.

That's what I mean. AoY never ever put us into the "real" 23c. It was tied to the Na'Kuhl story from the very beginning, sabotaging any kind of cozy TOS feeling.​​

feiqa

Yes,

I liked it and did not even realize how much I wanted it more than the rest till I noticed I fly the 23rd cen hulls all the time now. Now this might seem nitpicking. But I bought the full prepack for this expansion. All the ships, uniforms etc. But it feels like there really isn't much need for it with how short the mission chain was.

So I am hoping that they plan to fill things out. The classic Klingon, gorn, and Romulan ships would be awesome. (They have the models and they could just stuff the existing layouts under the hood and swap phasers for disruptors.

I have loved going back to ToS and hope they keep expanding on this.

horridperson

No,

@angrytarg

You articulated it better than I did. I didn't expect a faction but I wanted an unspoiled 23rd c. experience.

alexraptorr

No,

I am deeply disappointed by the lack of story content and faction exclusive ships.
I especially think the new set of temporal ships being cross-faction was a terrible mistake and should have been exclusive to the ToS faction much in the same way Warbirds are Romulan exclusive.

jade1280

No,

I liked the idea of it overall.
The cross faction T6 ships were cute as an idea but they were not for me.
There are more then a few missed oppertunities for some temporal wackiness in missions

5/10
Lets go back in time and change a few things.

ltminns

No,

The First Federation. Remember they were the first, even before us.

warpangel

Yes,

ltminns wrote: »

The First Federation. Remember they were the first, even before us.

What about the First Evil?

ltminns

No,

I guess the First Evil is as evil as you can get. But really, in today's society he was probably just misunderstood.

grazyc2

No,

Lot of No I read, If they wanted my support they should at least bring out missions till captain much more verity along the way. It's in my opinion not even worth a mini faction, it's another shot to get more Feds into the game. The way they did it right now they could easily do the same thing for the romulans and the klingons. I find this way they did it a cheap fix. They could save there self a lot off trouble and make an time agent available in the 25th century. they would save there self a lot of work.

dragnridr

No,

I said no since the LoR half faction is still more of a faction the the AoY fraction is. Devs said there was more missions, but all we got was a lousy few then plopped into the future with no chance to go back to the 23rd century for anything. Being limited to Fed only also sucked. I wanted a TOS Romulan and TOS Klingon. Where is the AoY only hub? KDF has Qonos, Feds have Sol System and the Rommies have Romulas. Even the Rommies have more exclusive ships than AoY. Oh, that's right, one free ship and it's back to the same ships as everyone else. Not everyone has $200 to toss to the devs for a pack of ships that are mostly useable by one faction.

AoY should have been more fleshed out and much, MUCH bigger than what was given. I think it was rushed out to try and make up for the Delta expansion.

forcemajeure

Passed on voting because it's not a new faction, nor was there anything particular I 'wanted' from it. As a celebration of Star Trek's 50th anniversary, it ranks pretty decent.

As a 'faction', or as an 'expansion', it doesn't qualify on either count since it simply doesn't compare to previous releases.

So, good celebration/callout to 50th anniversary and the original series. Was fun and entertaining in that respect. Because of it's unique flavor I didn't even mind having to create new captains for the event.

In future, I do hope they steer away from the 'create a new captain to experience the event' style of play. I really don't need more captains. It also creates a haves/have nots divide between people who were here for the event and those who weren't able to be.

I can particularly see the MkXIII UR rep unlock being an issue for people in the future who weren't able to have an AoY captain.

plaztikman64

I'm holding my breath until further development. Hopefully, they'll open the border to the new-old quadrant, perhaps even add the 23c ESD as a fleet holding?! I know, I know... apart from that really, I've been having a blast with my first 23c toon, and I intend to continue to have some more fun with my second one as well. I see no reason to compare this expansion, this faction with the others, as they came within different timeframes and conditions to begin with. "The more, the merrier" indeed

duncanidaho11

Yes,

The question of whether or not this is the faction I wanted is a pretty leading one. I am not building this game, what I want will invariably differ from what comes out of development. What I want is a Borg Cooperative faction starting at Vega, Xindi as standard FED boffs, and for the Whale Probe builders to be the master enemy we faced after the Iconian war. There's oh so many ways for the AOY faction not to live up to my expectations (which doesn't say a thing about how it actually works) so I will instead judge it on whether or not I like it's outcome, not whether or not I specifically requested it in its present form (even after the announcement).


And I do really like it. What I personally needed was a new way of viewing old content after years upon years of alting, and the AOY faction accomplishes that magnificently. It doesn't have the fluffy volume of unique content that the republic faction (far from it) had but the missions were consistently better and lead to a very interesting starting point with the rest of the game. In short, it's highly complimentary and shifts at just the right point in the TOS story for it not to wear.

The only things that I would have done differently (knowing the outcome and impact) are:

1. Copy the old ESD interior and use it as a Starbase K-13 TOS social hub in the 25c sector block (it's a great space and needs more of a presence in the game).
2. Cut some of the early KDF war missions from the 25c TOS leveling arc which are still easing players into STO gameplay and don't serve a specific point for later story (they're a step down.)
3. Written a lot more for the 25c introduction dialog you get at ESD (have fun with the fact that this one guy's been told to bring you up to speed on centuries of technological and cultural evolution moments before you meet the head of Starfleet. Three player dialog paths: resignation, shock, and utter incomprehension.)

But overall I'm quite happy with it.

storules

No,

Like I said before...This is not a faction not even 1/10th of LOR or 1/3 of DR. Shameful gimmick and should have just been called a "recruiting event" instead.​​

dalolorn

It's... smaller, than the name would imply. However, I'd say it's decently executed barring the occasional (or not so occasional) irritating bug, and ties nicely into the overarching plot.

mas134gluck123

Yes,

its interesting that every poll that been opened showing more NO then Yes tho i bealive its cause bugs and short story lines

duncanidaho11

Yes,

dalolorn wrote: »

It's... smaller, than the name would imply. However, I'd say it's decently executed barring the occasional (or not so occasional) irritating bug, and ties nicely into the overarching plot.

Well, for me the name implies "more than a season." I think if you hold that an expansion must always be equivalent in scope to whatever came before (LOR for example was absolutely required to fill the leveling arc for the Roms to its current point so they could enter the multi-faction arcs where it could simply make sense) you're really just asking for the devs to, at some point in the future, TRIBBLE up (in building out something which for its own sake doesn't need the same approach.)

mas134gluck123

Yes,

duncanidaho11 wrote: »

The question of whether or not this is the faction I wanted is a pretty leading one. I am not building this game, what I want will invariably differ from what comes out of development. What I want is a Borg Cooperative faction starting at Vega, Xindi as standard FED boffs, and for the Whale Probe builders to be the master enemy we faced after the Iconian war. There's oh so many ways for the AOY faction not to live up to my expectations (which doesn't say a thing about how it actually works) so I will instead judge it on whether or not I like it's outcome, not whether or not I specifically requested it in its present form (even after the announcement).


And I do really like it. What I personally needed was a new way of viewing old content after years upon years of alting, and the AOY faction accomplishes that magnificently. It doesn't have the fluffy volume of unique content that the republic faction (far from it) had but the missions were consistently better and lead to a very interesting starting point with the rest of the game. In short, it's highly complimentary and shifts at just the right point in the TOS story for it not to wear.

The only things that I would have done differently (knowing the outcome and impact) are:

1. Copy the old ESD interior and use it as a Starbase K-13 TOS social hub in the 25c sector block (it's a great space and needs more of a presence in the game).
2. Cut some of the early KDF war missions from the 25c TOS leveling arc which are still easing players into STO gameplay and don't serve a specific point for later story (they're a step down.)
3. Written a lot more for the 25c introduction dialog you get at ESD (have fun with the fact that this one guy's been told to bring you up to speed on centuries of technological and cultural evolution moments before you meet the head of Starfleet. Three player dialog paths: resignation, shock, and utter incomprehension.)

But overall I'm quite happy with it.

what about using some Foundry missions, as i saw quite good ones based in TOS era, so why not to take them it, revamp if its needed and put in 23th century, everyone happy, creators, players ok maybe not all but mostly certainly, as never everyone are happy,

hanover2

No,

If you expected more than this, you're either a newcomer, oblivious to history and/or unrealistic in your expectations.