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Admiralty - um... WHAT?!

wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
30 minute mission...
4 hour Maintence on the ships?!

What the heck?!
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    30 minute mission...
    4 hour Maintence on the ships?!

    What the heck?!
    Makes perfect sense actually.
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  • wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    Owning an aircraft is that much different. A couple hours of flight, and a couple days of maintenance.
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  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    sry. was in error. Not 4 hours. 12 hours! (just checked. and USS P -Hero ship is on hour 12 wait)

    :(
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    That's why shuttles exist, to resupply fuel and provide repairs to make the maintenance faster.

    Though, I still don't get how a shuttle can efficiently counter a doomsday machine or an enemy fleet and live to tell the tale.
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  • kontarnuskontarnus Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    The higher the tier of the ship the longer the maintenance time.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    It don't matter to me. I set it up, then collect and set it back up again the next day. Only time it gets me is during the "Tour of Duty" those take longer to do.
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  • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    It don't matter to me. I set it up, then collect and set it back up again the next day. Only time it gets me is during the "Tour of Duty" those take longer to do.

    It's pretty much a set-and-forget game mechanic. Or at least, that's how I play it also.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,117 Arc User
    (a) Gameplay reasons. That's actually all there is to it. (And the cry to integrate maintenance into mission time would nerf admiralty gameplay wise and thus also not be very welcome by everybody)

    (b) There has been a lot of threads about this. Modern ships and especially aircraft can easily spend many times as long in maintenance as they do in active missions. Bombers or helicopters are often grounded for days after a short routine run. It probably won't be as bad in space, but it depends on a lot of factors. Bottom line: it's not unrealistic. Our perception of how maintenance scales with high tech probably is.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    I just set and forget Admiralty missions as well. By the time I'm ready to collect and reset, the maintenance is over with.
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    Starfleet, is built by Ford. :*
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,645 Arc User
    Pay attention to the ships and shuttles that can reduce maintenance time by 10% - 25% per other ship. Note that shuttles do not count as an other ship for this, or for any other bonuses like +x science points.

    Pay attention to the total time of the mission + maintenance. You could do a 30 minute mission with some 30 minute - 2 hour ships and be ready to use the ships again in 1-3 hours. If you do a 3-hour mission with a 25% maintenance discount shuttle and two 12-hour ships then the ships will be ready again in 9 hours.
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    A.S.S. offers noticeably better rewards than the doff system, therefore it requires a limiting factor. Obviously you can counter that by collecting more asscards.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    A.S.S. offers noticeably better rewards than the doff system, therefore it requires a limiting factor. Obviously you can counter that by collecting more asscards.

    Hehehe. Asscards.​​
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    toiva wrote: »
    A.S.S. offers noticeably better rewards than the doff system, therefore it requires a limiting factor. Obviously you can counter that by collecting more asscards.

    Hehehe. Asscards.​​

    Thanks for the laugh. Asscards...LOL
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  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    What really bugs me is the 10k per day cap on Adm points. Forced slow progression of the tiers.
  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    30 minute mission...
    4 hour Maintence on the ships?!

    What the heck?!

    Pfft.

    15 minute assignment. 18 hour maintenance on high tier ships. Whaaaa?

    It is what it is. All this was complained about during beta of the admirality system.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I do agree its way better than the Doff system. I basically quit doing Doffs, and all my new characters don't even get any new ones. Other than ones to buff my ship and crew. About only Doff I do is turn in prisoners on KDF since that makes a good profit, or the colonist, and the Contraband.

    When it first came out, I thought it was lame and just like the Doff. I decided to give it a try. And now I see its well worth doing.
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  • chozoelder2ndchozoelder2nd Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    saurializard wrote: »
    That's why shuttles exist, to resupply fuel and provide repairs to make the maintenance faster.

    Unless the assignment has an event that gives bonus rewards, I usually just send mine to die on ones that are between 15 and 45 minutes. I like them as bonus pass tokens. Obviously there's still the wait time, but it goes by real fast when I'm off doing other things.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    cptjhunter wrote: »
    Starfleet, is built by Ford. :*
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    Actually some of the small craft and cruisers in the admirality sytem cut the refit time by 25% so if you have enough points to do the misssion and its a long refit time throw one of them in the mix.
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    Perhaps they should increase the cooldowns to at least 24-36 hours depending on the rarity of the ship.

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Been there...
    Done that conversation...
    Got the A.S.S.cards...

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  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    spacebaronline wrote: »
    What really bugs me is the 10k per day cap on Adm points. Forced slow progression of the tiers.

    This is by far a bigger issue than maintenance times. If I have enough ships to get 25k+ admiralty points a day, why am I artificially held back by some poor design choice?
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,117 Arc User
    talien wrote: »
    This is by far a bigger issue than maintenance times. If I have enough ships to get 25k+ admiralty points a day, why am I artificially held back by some poor design choice?

    While I don't think it is necessary or called for: because it's a design choice. Like many other progress limiting factors, e. g. timegates. I could have completed my temporal reputation on all my toons by now if it weren't for that, but such is the game.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Yes, the missions are absurdly short, but it's consistent with player content in STO. We can do queue missions in 1-15 minutes and no travel time, the card ships aren't being any faster than we are.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    The 10k limit was a post-implementaion add-on. Not part of the original 'design'. A few weeks later, probably added because Geko's Metrics©® worried them about who knows what. Now it would take you at least 20 days to get to max level for one Campaign.

    Isn't that the same number of days it takes to reach Tier 5 for a Reputation (assuming Sponsorship)? Of course with the hourlies you cut cut that to slightly over 16 days. That, of course, costs an extra 705 Marks, which is in and of itself, more than the cost for the normal 20-day 5k per day (600).
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  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    Im just annoyed I have a decent Armada of ships Ive bought over the years, yet if a mission asks for over 70 Tactical, Im screwed even after putting 3 ships on it. I appreciate the occasional free disposable reward ship that's usually tactical, but they are rare. Im not buying glass escorts to get tactical if I have no intention of playing a toon behind that ship purchase. Tactical variants of 3 packs should pack a lot more tactical punch points than they do, like my Tac Vesta and T6 Tac Odyssey.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Science is the real problem in most cases. That is especially true for KDF and Romulans.
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  • vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I know how to work my A.S.S., I'm fabulous.

    More seriously though, some of the free event ships and various small craft have really excellent modifiers. Worth doing the events alone just for the nice A.S.S. cards. Endlessly redoing the Klingon campaign for a regular 30k Dilithium bump is not bad at all.

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  • acidpresleyacidpresley Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    More important! http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1220223/admiralty-rewards-broken
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