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risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
As much as I hate to post this here, I didn't know how else to report it.

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The Boff bug is an old one, but it looks like people are now using it to get free dilithium and xp points.

There were two players here, both were standing still. All others with the exception of my own character in the bottom right are boffs, camping and waiting for enemies to spawn.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    How is it exploiting if they're waiting for X to spawn?
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    How is it exploiting if they're waiting for X to spawn?

    Because the players just set their boffs to aggressive and go afk while the boffs kill everything and reap the rewards.​​
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  • wylonuswylonus Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    all these guys botting and using fast shooter long range rifles.
    before you were get chance to get quest updated.

    must be something the mobs drop the loots.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Wow, am I outta touch.
    I didn't even know one could bring BOff's to Defera.
    :o
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  • eltecheltech Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    Wow, am I outta touch.
    I didn't even know one could bring BOff's to Defera.
    :o

    You can't, legitimately, that's the exploit...​​
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    eltech wrote: »
    daveyny wrote: »
    Wow, am I outta touch.
    I didn't even know one could bring BOff's to Defera.
    :o

    You can't, legitimately, that's the exploit...​​


    I'm pretty sure me and my boffs have been to Defera together (there are several missions there). As for exploits, I don't think I even understand the nature of said exploit, but if there is one, let it be fixed!
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    One man's exploit is another man's grind.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    It's annoying when everything dies as soon as it spawns but I'm not sure I get the point to it, it's not like you get any worthwhile amount of EXP there and if you're AFK you can't pick up loot.
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    daveyny wrote: »
    Wow, am I outta touch.
    I didn't even know one could bring BOff's to Defera.
    :o

    If you solo a medium to hard level mission,without a team, your Boffs will spawn with you.
    However, you can go back to the easy ones, and they kind of hang around with you.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    OP, you want a truly annoying cheat/exploit? Try guys with 3 or 4 alt accounts monopolizing temple hard runs because they are too lazy to team up with other people.

    At least you can go to other spots to complete the city mediums but if a jerk running a main followed by 4 alts starts the temple hard mission, you are forced to wait 4-5 min for it to complete.
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  • cheesebasketcheesebasket Member Posts: 1,101 Arc User
    Since when is the last time cryptic even looked at defera, it's been a broken mes for the longest time now, and the engineers in powerplant don't have any shields up to signal for them to drop

    short story long defera has been broken for ages, and, like andoria, will probably NEVER be fixed

    Andoria was supposed to be a pvp duel map, anyone in the hostile zone should be a target, but it doesn't work, and challenging a player creates a separate map entirely
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  • wylonuswylonus Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    some do have "combat script" to detect loot grade if they are rare or very rare, bot program will pick up.

    i have seen it few times, on few other games i played.
    remember 2001/2002 when they have "SIK" script locator/alert system, SIK is Sturdy Iron Key is one of old outdated key for tier 6 rare spell scrolls.
    so some of players find several ways to upgrade loot detector scripts for auto-pick ups.

    solution would be a new zone for missions, a single spawns, no respawn zone. once cleared, no new sets of spawns.
    i have found few locations with endless spawns, and that not good.
  • bejaymacbejaymac Member Posts: 448 Arc User
    Only reason I can think of for them doing that is the free dil for every kill AoY characters get, for regular characters that would be a waste of time going AFK as all you would get would be XP.​​
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    It's a pretty lackluster exploit anyway. You'd make more dilithium doing literally anything else.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,657 Arc User
    It might be gold farmers multi-boxing. Set up bots on one box to harvest a bit of dil while they grind contraband and such themselves.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    AOY characters get free dilithium for every kilL? Now, it makes sense. I think you're right Dave. He's probably a gold bot afk grinding for dilithium.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Wow...old stuff.

    It is so old, I remember I used to know how...but it has long left my memories. Only thing I remember was: take your Bat'leth.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    knuhteb5 wrote: »
    AOY characters get free dilithium for every kilL? Now, it makes sense. I think you're right Dave. He's probably a gold bot afk grinding for dilithium.

    AoY chars get 1 dil for every kill as long as the recruitment event lasts. This is, however, pretty damn ineffective to let a bot do so since as already pointed out, doing literally anything else gives you more dilithium. Doing a CCA which takes like a minute these days pays out 720 dil. That's 720 enemies ground kills worth in one minute.​​
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  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    Yeah it's like a tiny amount. Say you kill 5 Borg a minute so 5 dilithium. Or 300 per hour. Wow! Like one admiralty mission
  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    thay8472 wrote: »
    How is it exploiting if they're waiting for X to spawn?

    Because the players just set their boffs to aggressive and go afk while the boffs kill everything and reap the rewards.​​

    How does one set one's BOFFs to aggressive?
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    wylonus wrote: »
    some do have "combat script" to detect loot grade if they are rare or very rare, bot program will pick up.

    i have seen it few times, on few other games i played.
    remember 2001/2002 when they have "SIK" script locator/alert system, SIK is Sturdy Iron Key is one of old outdated key for tier 6 rare spell scrolls.
    so some of players find several ways to upgrade loot detector scripts for auto-pick ups.

    solution would be a new zone for missions, a single spawns, no respawn zone. once cleared, no new sets of spawns.
    i have found few locations with endless spawns, and that not good.

    Farming SIKs was the least of Asheron's Call's botting problems.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    iconians wrote: »
    thay8472 wrote: »
    How is it exploiting if they're waiting for X to spawn?

    Because the players just set their boffs to aggressive and go afk while the boffs kill everything and reap the rewards.

    How does one set one's BOFFs to aggressive?

    It's one of the little buttons at the top of the Away team list. They're in a Passive mode by default, but you can click another button that makes them Aggressive and they'll attack anything in range. Might even be the same button, it's been a while since I did content with bridge officers involved.​​
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  • bejaymacbejaymac Member Posts: 448 Arc User
    From the looks of things they aren't AoY characters, no TOS badge next to their name, so beats me WTF they are doing.​​
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    It's a pretty lackluster exploit anyway. You'd make more dilithium doing literally anything else.

    Nothing else you can be completely AFK for, letting a botting program do all the work for you.

  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Well I don't know about the location show in the picture. Most areas a kill rewards my AOY toon and boffs with zero rewards. A few areas yes, but it's insignificant.
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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,278 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Yeah it's like a tiny amount. Say you kill 5 Borg a minute so 5 dilithium. Or 300 per hour. Wow! Like one admiralty mission

    You call that A LOT? Oh boy you can get 100X doing the old fashion way and just play the real admiralty on alternates. Why there are so many crybabies in this game that called everything an "exploit"? Not sure how can this be called as such. Anyways, the event ends in a few more days and these cry babies will have something else to cry about...

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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    I before el locko. Srsly. Discussimg nevermind.revealing exploits is a big nono
  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    It's hardly an exploitation of the game. Besides it's low rewards and limited for another 3 weeks. There are many more exploits in the game, or let's call them bugs that have been around for years. One is on defra and it yields a lot of marks and dilithium for doing noting. Has been known for at minimum 2 years by the Dev's.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    I before el locko. Srsly. Discussimg nevermind.revealing exploits is a big nono

    Which is why I didn't post any details on how to get those boffs there. I merely pointed out the existence of an exploit, not how to use it.


    Oh and @storules amounts are irrelevant. An exploit is an exploit, regardless of how big the rewards are. And I will report them, always.

    You've earned my respect btw. Resorting to name-calling makes you so much better than these cry babies you seem to be seeing somewhere.

    Yes, that was sarcasm.
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