Holy [Insert Strongest Swear You Can Think Of Here]! And Char ONLY?!
Even at max Dil - Zen (500 - 1), the MACO outfit would cost 4000 Zen, or at least 7.2x more than a normal outfit (550 Zen). AND ONE CHAR ONLY! I hate Char Only outfits, it costs a fortune to get the assorted Lobi outfits, but they are a special currency item and also from a non-starfleet, KDF, RomRep source so I can understand them being char only. But these Dil Store outfits are Standard Fed Patterns, and yet cost over 7 times more (or "(7+ * (Number Of Fed Alts)) * 550 Zen" if you want them on all your fed alts). Oh, and for you that don't use Zen to get large amounts of dil, the MACO outfit will take 250 Days of the daily 8k limit to get.
I know you have the misguided vision that Dil is plentiful and EC isn't (seriously, EC is easy to get a few 100k of, Dil is not especially with the refine limit), but this goes beyond that into the realms of offensively pricey. Why not just make them Account wide for let's say 550 Zen each.
But if you really think making them Char Only is a good idea (it really isn't, char only items that aren't reputation or freely reclaimable (though missions for example) makes me feel cheated for purchasing the max number of char slots), cut the price, significantly, to let's say about 20k, 17.5k and 15k.
I hope these insane prices last at most a week if they even make it to Holodeck. I have a slim hope they make it to Holodeck as Acc-Wide and Lower-cost (550 Zen...).
Remember, the Dil store was dieing and you pretty much killed it off because the items it gave were low quality (Mk X and XI and often not upgradeable (seriously, those Andorian Phasers are a rip off, bad procs and stuck at Mk XI Purple with no ability to upgrade, meaning they are outdated the second you get them)).
EDIT: You have a Z-Store, use it. Please. I would pay Zen (which I would buy with £/$/etc) for Account-Wide unlocks over any other currency for Char-Wide unlocks. Also, have you considered selling Specialisation Points in the Z-store in the boosts section for somewhere between 100 and 500 Zen?
If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.
51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.
The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.
Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
I would like to use the MACO belt with the baton and the WROK uniforms, but not as a char unlock for these prices.
I understand why they do this, highly desired uniforms for lots of dil means a dil sink people have been asking for or at least dangle the carrot for some time longer on others. But I don't think many people will actually fall for these prices for single unlocks aside from making EC by selling them on the exchange. If they would be 200k dil it would still be okay but faction costumes belong in the c-store for 550 zen.
Costumes are questionable dil sinks. Let us have a 23c fleet branch.
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Holy [Insert Strongest Swear You Can Think Of Here]! And Char ONLY?!
Even at max Dil - Zen (500 - 1), the MACO outfit would cost 4000 Zen, or at least 7.2x more than a normal outfit (550 Zen). AND ONE CHAR ONLY! I hate Char Only outfits, it costs a fortune to get the assorted Lobi outfits, but they are a special currency item and also from a non-starfleet, KDF, RomRep source so I can understand them being char only. But these Dil Store outfits are Standard Fed Patterns, and yet cost over 7 times more (or "(7+ * (Number Of Fed Alts)) * 550 Zen" if you want them on all your fed alts). Oh, and for you that don't use Zen to get large amounts of dil, the MACO outfit will take 250 Days of the daily 8k limit to get.
I know you have the misguided vision that Dil is plentiful and EC isn't (seriously, EC is easy to get a few 100k of, Dil is not especially with the refine limit), but this goes beyond that into the realms of offensively pricey. Why not just make them Account wide for let's say 550 Zen each.
But if you really think making them Char Only is a good idea (it really isn't, char only items that aren't reputation or freely reclaimable (though missions for example) makes me feel cheated for purchasing the max number of char slots), cut the price, significantly, to let's say about 20k, 17.5k and 15k.
I hope these insane prices last at most a week if they even make it to Holodeck. I have a slim hope they make it to Holodeck as Acc-Wide and Lower-cost (550 Zen...).
Remember, the Dil store was dieing and you pretty much killed it off because the items it gave were low quality (Mk X and XI and often not upgradeable (seriously, those Andorian Phasers are a rip off, bad procs and stuck at Mk XI Purple with no ability to upgrade, meaning they are outdated the second you get them)).
EDIT: You have a Z-Store, use it. Please. I would pay Zen (which I would buy with £/$/etc) for Account-Wide unlocks over any other currency for Char-Wide unlocks. Also, have you considered selling Specialisation Points in the Z-store in the boosts section for somewhere between 100 and 500 Zen?
the way you think you think everyone has only one character and that is not the case 99% of the player base has more than one character (I have 32 I think, lost count after 30) and then can refine more dilithium and then transfer it to the character you want it on, Dilithium is not hard to come by or to get and theses players that want it decreased I think need there head examined so you saying it will take X number of days to get if you only use one toon is prolly correct but for most that is just not the case when it comes to playing STO.
Holy [Insert Strongest Swear You Can Think Of Here]! And Char ONLY?!
Even at max Dil - Zen (500 - 1), the MACO outfit would cost 4000 Zen, or at least 7.2x more than a normal outfit (550 Zen). AND ONE CHAR ONLY! I hate Char Only outfits, it costs a fortune to get the assorted Lobi outfits, but they are a special currency item and also from a non-starfleet, KDF, RomRep source so I can understand them being char only. But these Dil Store outfits are Standard Fed Patterns, and yet cost over 7 times more (or "(7+ * (Number Of Fed Alts)) * 550 Zen" if you want them on all your fed alts). Oh, and for you that don't use Zen to get large amounts of dil, the MACO outfit will take 250 Days of the daily 8k limit to get.
I know you have the misguided vision that Dil is plentiful and EC isn't (seriously, EC is easy to get a few 100k of, Dil is not especially with the refine limit), but this goes beyond that into the realms of offensively pricey. Why not just make them Account wide for let's say 550 Zen each.
But if you really think making them Char Only is a good idea (it really isn't, char only items that aren't reputation or freely reclaimable (though missions for example) makes me feel cheated for purchasing the max number of char slots), cut the price, significantly, to let's say about 20k, 17.5k and 15k.
I hope these insane prices last at most a week if they even make it to Holodeck. I have a slim hope they make it to Holodeck as Acc-Wide and Lower-cost (550 Zen...).
Remember, the Dil store was dieing and you pretty much killed it off because the items it gave were low quality (Mk X and XI and often not upgradeable (seriously, those Andorian Phasers are a rip off, bad procs and stuck at Mk XI Purple with no ability to upgrade, meaning they are outdated the second you get them)).
EDIT: You have a Z-Store, use it. Please. I would pay Zen (which I would buy with £/$/etc) for Account-Wide unlocks over any other currency for Char-Wide unlocks. Also, have you considered selling Specialisation Points in the Z-store in the boosts section for somewhere between 100 and 500 Zen?
the way you think you think everyone has only one character and that is not the case 99% of the player base has more than one character (I have 32 I think, lost count after 30) and then can refine more dilithium and then transfer it to the character you want it on, Dilithium is not hard to come by or to get and theses players that want it decreased I think need there head examined so you saying it will take X number of days to get if you only use one toon is prolly correct but for most that is just not the case when it comes to playing STO.
Even with the max of 52 Alts (which I have), all refining to absolute max every day (which I think is 10k per char with fleet and LTS), would make 520k. So a little more than half the price of ONE of these ONE CHAR outfits. If they were Acc wide, they would be insanely pricey (way more than any other outfit in STO), but the price wouldn't seem as outrageous. But as a single char unlock, they are way beyond pricey. Especially since most of them are just a shirt and combadge.
If you think they are NOT unreasonably priced, go buy all 4 on every eligible alt. My assessment of the Zen value is still the same though, they are well over 5 times more pricey than any other outfit in the Z-store, which are Acc Wide, not single char.
If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.
51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.
The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.
Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
Holy [Insert Strongest Swear You Can Think Of Here]! And Char ONLY?!
Even at max Dil - Zen (500 - 1), the MACO outfit would cost 4000 Zen, or at least 7.2x more than a normal outfit (550 Zen). AND ONE CHAR ONLY! I hate Char Only outfits, it costs a fortune to get the assorted Lobi outfits, but they are a special currency item and also from a non-starfleet, KDF, RomRep source so I can understand them being char only. But these Dil Store outfits are Standard Fed Patterns, and yet cost over 7 times more (or "(7+ * (Number Of Fed Alts)) * 550 Zen" if you want them on all your fed alts). Oh, and for you that don't use Zen to get large amounts of dil, the MACO outfit will take 250 Days of the daily 8k limit to get.
I know you have the misguided vision that Dil is plentiful and EC isn't (seriously, EC is easy to get a few 100k of, Dil is not especially with the refine limit), but this goes beyond that into the realms of offensively pricey. Why not just make them Account wide for let's say 550 Zen each.
But if you really think making them Char Only is a good idea (it really isn't, char only items that aren't reputation or freely reclaimable (though missions for example) makes me feel cheated for purchasing the max number of char slots), cut the price, significantly, to let's say about 20k, 17.5k and 15k.
I hope these insane prices last at most a week if they even make it to Holodeck. I have a slim hope they make it to Holodeck as Acc-Wide and Lower-cost (550 Zen...).
Remember, the Dil store was dieing and you pretty much killed it off because the items it gave were low quality (Mk X and XI and often not upgradeable (seriously, those Andorian Phasers are a rip off, bad procs and stuck at Mk XI Purple with no ability to upgrade, meaning they are outdated the second you get them)).
EDIT: You have a Z-Store, use it. Please. I would pay Zen (which I would buy with £/$/etc) for Account-Wide unlocks over any other currency for Char-Wide unlocks. Also, have you considered selling Specialisation Points in the Z-store in the boosts section for somewhere between 100 and 500 Zen?
the way you think you think everyone has only one character and that is not the case 99% of the player base has more than one character (I have 32 I think, lost count after 30) and then can refine more dilithium and then transfer it to the character you want it on, Dilithium is not hard to come by or to get and theses players that want it decreased I think need there head examined so you saying it will take X number of days to get if you only use one toon is prolly correct but for most that is just not the case when it comes to playing STO.
Even with the max of 52 Alts (which I have), all refining to absolute max every day (which I think is 10k per char with fleet and LTS), would make 520k. So a little more than half the price of ONE of these ONE CHAR outfits. If they were Acc wide, they would be insanely pricey (way more than any other outfit in STO), but the price wouldn't seem as outrageous. But as a single char unlock, they are way beyond pricey. Especially since most of them are just a shirt and combadge.
If you think they are NOT unreasonably priced, go buy all 4 on every eligible alt. My assessment of the Zen value is still the same though, they are well over 5 times more pricey than any other outfit in the Z-store, which are Acc Wide, not single char.
are all of your alts Fed? doubtful, so you are thinking for all when the costumes are fed only, for me that cuts in half almost (still have more fed toons than any other faction) and not all my fed toons need every costume unless I plan it for the Boffs then it may get a bit pricey
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Bring the price down by 90%, or maybe by 50% and make them account unlocks, then we'll talk.
Even at max Dil - Zen (500 - 1), the MACO outfit would cost 4000 Zen, or at least 7.2x more than a normal outfit (550 Zen). AND ONE CHAR ONLY! I hate Char Only outfits, it costs a fortune to get the assorted Lobi outfits, but they are a special currency item and also from a non-starfleet, KDF, RomRep source so I can understand them being char only. But these Dil Store outfits are Standard Fed Patterns, and yet cost over 7 times more (or "(7+ * (Number Of Fed Alts)) * 550 Zen" if you want them on all your fed alts). Oh, and for you that don't use Zen to get large amounts of dil, the MACO outfit will take 250 Days of the daily 8k limit to get.
I know you have the misguided vision that Dil is plentiful and EC isn't (seriously, EC is easy to get a few 100k of, Dil is not especially with the refine limit), but this goes beyond that into the realms of offensively pricey. Why not just make them Account wide for let's say 550 Zen each.
But if you really think making them Char Only is a good idea (it really isn't, char only items that aren't reputation or freely reclaimable (though missions for example) makes me feel cheated for purchasing the max number of char slots), cut the price, significantly, to let's say about 20k, 17.5k and 15k.
I hope these insane prices last at most a week if they even make it to Holodeck. I have a slim hope they make it to Holodeck as Acc-Wide and Lower-cost (550 Zen...).
Remember, the Dil store was dieing and you pretty much killed it off because the items it gave were low quality (Mk X and XI and often not upgradeable (seriously, those Andorian Phasers are a rip off, bad procs and stuck at Mk XI Purple with no ability to upgrade, meaning they are outdated the second you get them)).
EDIT: You have a Z-Store, use it. Please. I would pay Zen (which I would buy with £/$/etc) for Account-Wide unlocks over any other currency for Char-Wide unlocks. Also, have you considered selling Specialisation Points in the Z-store in the boosts section for somewhere between 100 and 500 Zen?
I understand why they do this, highly desired uniforms for lots of dil means a dil sink people have been asking for or at least dangle the carrot for some time longer on others. But I don't think many people will actually fall for these prices for single unlocks aside from making EC by selling them on the exchange. If they would be 200k dil it would still be okay but faction costumes belong in the c-store for 550 zen.
Costumes are questionable dil sinks. Let us have a 23c fleet branch.
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the way you think you think everyone has only one character and that is not the case 99% of the player base has more than one character (I have 32 I think, lost count after 30) and then can refine more dilithium and then transfer it to the character you want it on, Dilithium is not hard to come by or to get and theses players that want it decreased I think need there head examined so you saying it will take X number of days to get if you only use one toon is prolly correct but for most that is just not the case when it comes to playing STO.
Even with the max of 52 Alts (which I have), all refining to absolute max every day (which I think is 10k per char with fleet and LTS), would make 520k. So a little more than half the price of ONE of these ONE CHAR outfits. If they were Acc wide, they would be insanely pricey (way more than any other outfit in STO), but the price wouldn't seem as outrageous. But as a single char unlock, they are way beyond pricey. Especially since most of them are just a shirt and combadge.
If you think they are NOT unreasonably priced, go buy all 4 on every eligible alt. My assessment of the Zen value is still the same though, they are well over 5 times more pricey than any other outfit in the Z-store, which are Acc Wide, not single char.
are all of your alts Fed? doubtful, so you are thinking for all when the costumes are fed only, for me that cuts in half almost (still have more fed toons than any other faction) and not all my fed toons need every costume unless I plan it for the Boffs then it may get a bit pricey
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