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pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
Tarnh managed to keep his footing as the latest barrage of enemy phaser fire sheared through what was left of his ship’s port shields.

The blood-red lighting of his command bridge fluctuated for a moment before dropping, leaving the room shrouded in eerie blackness.

~Morrigan "LaughingTrendy"
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Hummmmnnn....

    Soooo, Somebody..., Sometime..., Somewhere..., Fixed...,

    Something...

    This should be interesting.

    Nice Shakespeare reference by the way.
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    orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2016
    Uhh. Interesting, I wonder what this means for future (lol) plot developments...

    Also, Nachthexen-class Battle Cruiser? Sounds hot, what is it?
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    lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Based on what we know closing the loop on the Temporal Cold War would likely mean/involve Na'kuhl never being destroyed (because the Tholians are likely to have done that at least partly as vengeance for the temporal assault on the Tholian colony, which they would never have done if Na'kuhl's destruction hadn't turned so many of them into temporal terrorists), although of course it remains to/will never be seen if that is what this is.
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    staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    It's always nice when the Star Trek ideal of a peaceful solution wins out- and frankly we don't see enough of that in this game.

    However, writers, please could you stop taking every chance to ram down our throats that in Cryptic's timeline the Klingons and Romulans end up joining the Federation? Some of us are quite partial to the factions...
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,394 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Based on what we know closing the loop on the Temporal Cold War would likely mean/involve Na'kuhl never being destroyed (because the Tholians are likely to have done that at least partly as vengeance for the temporal assault on the Tholian colony, which they would never have done if Na'kuhl's destruction hadn't turned so many of them into temporal terrorists), although of course it remains to/will never be seen if that is what this is.

    Actually, there is several mentions of how the Na'kuhl star didn't turn into a black hole by the 29th century, which was considered an strange occurrence. Perhaps the star got restored or eventually restored itself between the 29th and 31st centuries.

    Maybe the Tholians modified the Tox Uthat so the effects weren't permanent, just enough to teach the Na'kuhl a lesson.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    What would happen if the Tox-Uthat itself, were to somehow be suddenly destroyed?

    Would everything revert back to the way it was?
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    lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    orion0029 wrote: »
    Uhh. Interesting, I wonder what this means for future (lol) plot developments...

    Also, Nachthexen-class Battle Cruiser? Sounds hot, what is it?

    Probably something on the sneakier side of things for a battle cruiser, although that's purely from it being a Night Witch-class.
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    cuchulainn74cuchulainn74 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    Considering that the Na'Kuhl were so terribly wronged at the start of all this, it's actually comforting to see a "happy" end for them. This was another in a long string of really enjoyable narrative pieces. Thanks!
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    thorodalthorodal Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    Seeing what that class' namesake is I expect something REALLY torp-heavy.
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    kekvinkekvin Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    Maybe sfc restored the star after procyon to get them to sign up to the accords. The star doesent have to b restored proir to the 31st century
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    staq16 wrote: »
    It's always nice when the Star Trek ideal of a peaceful solution wins out- and frankly we don't see enough of that in this game.

    However, writers, please could you stop taking every chance to ram down our throats that in Cryptic's timeline the Klingons and Romulans end up joining the Federation? Some of us are quite partial to the factions...
    It's canon that the Klingons eventually get an education. CBS said so. :p
    orion0029 wrote: »
    Uhh. Interesting, I wonder what this means for future (lol) plot developments...

    Also, Nachthexen-class Battle Cruiser? Sounds hot, what is it?
    It appears to be German for "Night witch".

    Interesting ship class name...
    thorodal wrote: »
    Seeing what that class' namesake is I expect something REALLY torp-heavy.
    Wait... a torpedo bomber... curiouser and curiouser...
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    qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    It's Night Witches, witch would be "Hexe". :)
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    orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    *facepalm* Thanks for the translations, but I was referring to the ship class itself.

    Perhaps a future 31st century ship?

    Uhh, future as in not yet released, I'm not being redundant.

    Temporal shenannigans... :(
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    antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    Maybe it's a Theseus? The escort class. That would be era-appropriate.

    Oh, I'm glad they fixed the star finally - that would explain why it hadn't gone out in The Temporal Front as badly as thought if they had started repairing it.

    I'm a sucker for a happy ending. :)
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    orion0029 wrote: »
    Uhh. Interesting, I wonder what this means for future (lol) plot developments...

    Also, Nachthexen-class Battle Cruiser? Sounds hot, what is it?
    The literal translation from German would be something like "Nightwitches" or "Nightwitch" (or "Nightly Practice of Witchcraft").
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    thorodalthorodal Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    orion0029 wrote: »
    Uhh. Interesting, I wonder what this means for future (lol) plot developments...

    Also, Nachthexen-class Battle Cruiser? Sounds hot, what is it?
    The literal translation from German would be something like "Nightwitches" or "Nightwitch" (or "Nightly Practice of Witchcraft").

    Let me quote myself again:
    thorodal wrote: »
    Seeing what that class' namesake is I expect something REALLY torp-heavy.

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    robertjenkinsrobertjenkins Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    learn your history : "Night Witches" is the English translation of Nachthexen, a World War II German nickname (Russian Ночные ведьмы, Nochnye Vedmy) for the women military aviators of the 588th Night Bomber Regiment, known later as the 46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment, of the Soviet Air Forces. Though women were initially barred from combat, Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin issued an order on October 8, 1941 to deploy three women's air force units, including the 588th regiment.[1] The regiment, formed by Colonel Marina Raskova and led by Major Yevdokia Bershanskaya, was made up entirely of women volunteers in their late teens and early twenties.

    The regiment flew harassment bombing and precision bombing missions against the German military from 1942 until the end of the war.[2] At its largest, it had 40 two-person crews. The regiment flew over 24,000 missions and dropped 23,000 tons of bombs.[3] It was the most highly decorated all-women unit in the Soviet Air Force, each pilot having flown over 800 missions by the end of the war and twenty-three having been awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union title. Thirty of its members died in combat.[4]

    The regiment flew in wood-and-canvas Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes, a 1928 design intended for use as training aircraft and for crop dusting, and to this day the most-produced biplane in aviation history. The planes could carry only six bombs at a time, so 8 or more missions per night were often necessary.[5] Although the aircraft were obsolete and slow, the pilots made daring use of their exceptional maneuverability; they had the advantage of having a maximum speed that was lower than the stall speed of both the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and the Focke-Wulf Fw 190, and as a result, German pilots found them very difficult to shoot down. An attack technique of the night bombers was to idle the engine near the target and glide to the bomb release point, with only wind noise left to reveal their location. German soldiers likened the sound to broomsticks and named the pilots "Night Witches."[1] Due to the weight of the bombs and the low altitude of flight, the pilots carried no parachutes.[6]

    From June 1942, the 588th Night Bomber Regiment was within the 4th Air Army. In February 1943, the regiment was honored with a reorganization into the 46th Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment and in October 1943 it became the 46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment.[7] "Taman" referred to the unit's involvement in two celebrated Soviet victories on the Taman Peninsula during 1943.
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    kasrakenkasraken Member Posts: 213 Bug Hunter
    I really enjoyed this story!
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    piotrtiberiuspiotrtiberius Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    What's the title of this one a reference to? It sounds familiar.
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    crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    That one actually brought a tear to my eye... Well written...

    The one thing... Why couldn't these be missions for us to participate in instead of stories to enjoy... THIS would be the epitome of my expectations in a STO mission...

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    gaevsprivsmangaevsprivsman Member Posts: 314 Arc User
    Good one, keep them coming!
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,394 Arc User
    learn your history : "Night Witches" is the English translation of Nachthexen, a World War II German nickname (Russian Ночные ведьмы, Nochnye Vedmy) for the women military aviators of the 588th Night Bomber Regiment, known later as the 46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment, of the Soviet Air Forces. Though women were initially barred from combat, Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin issued an order on October 8, 1941 to deploy three women's air force units, including the 588th regiment.[1] The regiment, formed by Colonel Marina Raskova and led by Major Yevdokia Bershanskaya, was made up entirely of women volunteers in their late teens and early twenties.

    The regiment flew harassment bombing and precision bombing missions against the German military from 1942 until the end of the war.[2] At its largest, it had 40 two-person crews. The regiment flew over 24,000 missions and dropped 23,000 tons of bombs.[3] It was the most highly decorated all-women unit in the Soviet Air Force, each pilot having flown over 800 missions by the end of the war and twenty-three having been awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union title. Thirty of its members died in combat.[4]

    The regiment flew in wood-and-canvas Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes, a 1928 design intended for use as training aircraft and for crop dusting, and to this day the most-produced biplane in aviation history. The planes could carry only six bombs at a time, so 8 or more missions per night were often necessary.[5] Although the aircraft were obsolete and slow, the pilots made daring use of their exceptional maneuverability; they had the advantage of having a maximum speed that was lower than the stall speed of both the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and the Focke-Wulf Fw 190, and as a result, German pilots found them very difficult to shoot down. An attack technique of the night bombers was to idle the engine near the target and glide to the bomb release point, with only wind noise left to reveal their location. German soldiers likened the sound to broomsticks and named the pilots "Night Witches."[1] Due to the weight of the bombs and the low altitude of flight, the pilots carried no parachutes.[6]

    From June 1942, the 588th Night Bomber Regiment was within the 4th Air Army. In February 1943, the regiment was honored with a reorganization into the 46th Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment and in October 1943 it became the 46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment.[7] "Taman" referred to the unit's involvement in two celebrated Soviet victories on the Taman Peninsula during 1943.

    Thank you, Wikipedia! :P
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    captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    Welcome home. The troubles of the past lead to a better future.

    I approve. That's how you tie up loose ends.
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Based on what we know closing the loop on the Temporal Cold War would likely mean/involve Na'kuhl never being destroyed (because the Tholians are likely to have done that at least partly as vengeance for the temporal assault on the Tholian colony, which they would never have done if Na'kuhl's destruction hadn't turned so many of them into temporal terrorists), although of course it remains to/will never be seen if that is what this is.

    Actually, there is several mentions of how the Na'kuhl star didn't turn into a black hole by the 29th century, which was considered an strange occurrence. Perhaps the star got restored or eventually restored itself between the 29th and 31st centuries.

    Maybe the Tholians modified the Tox Uthat so the effects weren't permanent, just enough to teach the Na'kuhl a lesson.

    Perhaps the Tholians weren't so keen on destroying the star. If it becomes a supernova or a black hole it's a navigational hazard. If they just turn down the temperature so it goes cold they wreck the Nak'hul without damaging the surrounding galaxy. But stellar fusion is powered by mass, so without the mass of the star going anywhere eventually once whatever effect the Tox Uthat causes wears off the star would reignite on its own. It's a Quantum Inhibitor right? Once the inhibition wears off fusion returns to normal. One would think. Or maybe two centuries of advancement was all that was needed to develop the technology to restore the star. After all 29th century tech should be obsolete to 31st century tech.
    learn your history : "Night Witches" is the English translation of Nachthexen, a World War II German nickname (Russian Ночные ведьмы, Nochnye Vedmy) for the women military aviators of the 588th Night Bomber Regiment, known later as the 46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment, of the Soviet Air Forces. Though women were initially barred from combat, Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin issued an order on October 8, 1941 to deploy three women's air force units, including the 588th regiment.[1] The regiment, formed by Colonel Marina Raskova and led by Major Yevdokia Bershanskaya, was made up entirely of women volunteers in their late teens and early twenties.

    The regiment flew harassment bombing and precision bombing missions against the German military from 1942 until the end of the war.[2] At its largest, it had 40 two-person crews. The regiment flew over 24,000 missions and dropped 23,000 tons of bombs.[3] It was the most highly decorated all-women unit in the Soviet Air Force, each pilot having flown over 800 missions by the end of the war and twenty-three having been awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union title. Thirty of its members died in combat.[4]

    The regiment flew in wood-and-canvas Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes, a 1928 design intended for use as training aircraft and for crop dusting, and to this day the most-produced biplane in aviation history. The planes could carry only six bombs at a time, so 8 or more missions per night were often necessary.[5] Although the aircraft were obsolete and slow, the pilots made daring use of their exceptional maneuverability; they had the advantage of having a maximum speed that was lower than the stall speed of both the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and the Focke-Wulf Fw 190, and as a result, German pilots found them very difficult to shoot down. An attack technique of the night bombers was to idle the engine near the target and glide to the bomb release point, with only wind noise left to reveal their location. German soldiers likened the sound to broomsticks and named the pilots "Night Witches."[1] Due to the weight of the bombs and the low altitude of flight, the pilots carried no parachutes.[6]

    From June 1942, the 588th Night Bomber Regiment was within the 4th Air Army. In February 1943, the regiment was honored with a reorganization into the 46th Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment and in October 1943 it became the 46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment.[7] "Taman" referred to the unit's involvement in two celebrated Soviet victories on the Taman Peninsula during 1943.

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    crm14916 wrote: »
    That one actually brought a tear to my eye... Well written...

    The one thing... Why couldn't these be missions for us to participate in instead of stories to enjoy... THIS would be the epitome of my expectations in a STO mission...

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    Indeed, are we actually going to get to do this as the grand finale for this Future Proof arc? Is this a post cursor to the next feature episode.

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    antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    Maybe the Tholians modified the Tox Uthat so the effects weren't permanent, just enough to teach the Na'kuhl a lesson.

    Oh - I like that as tricked out time - the Tholian thought processes are weird, so a temporary 'dimming' long enough to establish as a 'time travel attack' to set up the Temporal Accords would work. And a few centuries may be a short time to a Tholian, they certainly took their time getting vengeance.

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    hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    So the implication is "if you had just shut up and let us help you from the start, we could have avoided all this".

    Which is... well, typical for the warm and fuzzy yet often dismayingly paternalistic Federation we see in the various later series. The Federation always knows what's best, because they're the Good Guys, and you should just let them do it.

    (yeah, how well did that work when they were infiltrated up to the gills with Undine and denying there was a problem?)
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    the one thing I do like about this one is that the crew are very relatable in their thoughts/actions. Swap red eye and other na'khul specific reference out and it could be a human/romulan/klingon/etc crew.... good writing in that... now why cant we get that level of quality in missions?
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    themetalstickmanthemetalstickman Member Posts: 1,010 Arc User
    Awesome. I wonder, did Na'kuhl reignite itself, or did the Galactic Union use the Tox Uthat to reignite it?
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