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Ferengi Nagus policy wrong

masterfiretrollmasterfiretroll Member Posts: 116 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
This is a written statement
I am non-adverse, non-belligerent, non-
combatant party

Frist off this Discussion fourm star trek online and I don't see any
other place to post this.
As you read this does Discuss star trek online
As consumer with a beef over the Ferengi Nagus Marauder free package
(filled with Enterprise-F Crew themed Swag) who have provided
'outstanding support' for the game.

Miny of Cryptic's consumer's are upset we have not Ferengi Nagus
Marauder free package (filled with Enterprise-F Crew themed Swag)

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ferengi_Nagus_Marauder

https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4ttw2j/we_now_have_an_official_st

atement_from_cryptic/

http://massivelyop.com/2016/07/20/star-trek-online-confuses-community-

with-ship-giveaway/

All contest and promotional puzzles and games must clearly and
conspicuously disclose each of the following
link below

http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/legal_guides/u-3.shtml

No disclose,violating

Give everyone the Ferengi Nagus Marauder free package (filled with
Enterprise-F Crew themed Swag)

post if support this.. community members.
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    magusofborgmagusofborg Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    This thread will be locked in 3...2....
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    sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    Cryptic/PWE just don't care, that much is obvious.

    Not going to help anything by bringing this up again....
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    sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    The quick brown fox jumped over the...
    It's not you- it's me. I just need my space.

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    sfdstuff#3558 sfdstuff
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    thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb9QE_QZb_g
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    inb4lock
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    We should probably stop trolling L's twitter feed on the forums here. It's a little creepy you ask me.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    Hmm, the OP seems to be confusing a giveaway with a contest.

    Apples and Oranges.

    The posted legalities don't apply here.

    So many sour grapes...
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    thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada
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    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    It's a little creepy you ask me.

    Have you met the STO playerbase?
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    sfdstuff#3558 sfdstuff
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    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    We should probably stop trolling L's twitter feed on the forums here. It's a little creepy you ask me.

    trolling?

    1. she posted that pic

    2. she wanted people to see it.

    3. she posted taunting "u mad?' hashtags

    it's not like she is being doxxed. she wanted to rub it in peoples faces.
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    o.O really, like the last two threads on this weren't enough?
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    redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    thekodanarmada#7342 wrote: »
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    It's a little creepy you ask me.

    Have you met the STO playerbase?

    Hanging around with snoggymack22 would certainly be a guarantee for fun.
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    captainkenny1captainkenny1 Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    I just want the ship, I don't care about the swag. Please cryptic, put the ship in the c store or promo box.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,524 Arc User
    Albert Einstein did not really say this:

    “Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”

    ... except possibly in the Kelvan Timeline.
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    sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    o.O really, like the last two threads on this weren't enough?

    We'll never see the end of these threads. They really need to rename the "Flag" button to "Waaambulance".
    It's not you- it's me. I just need my space.

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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,350 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    orion0029 wrote: »
    Hmm, the OP seems to be confusing a giveaway with a contest.

    Apples and Oranges.

    The posted legalities don't apply here.

    So many sour grapes...

    Exactly. This was a GIVEAWAY to certain individuals NOT a contest, puzzle, gamble or any form of competitive activity. What ever Cryptic's selection policy was for the GIVEAWAY, it was their own choice. There are no laws governing the 'fairness' of giveaways and there is no basis in law for arguing otherwise. This I would know as I studied Business Law!!

    Also OP, you might want to read the ToS. Cryptic can do as it pleases with regards to it's own property and it does not have to notify anyone, other than PWI & CBS. When it notifies it's customers, it does it out of courtesy. It's not a 'right' nor is it a privilege for you to know about anything Cryptic does!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I deserved the negus because I said so. ;-)
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    captainkenny1captainkenny1 Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    It appears that people got the ship, who are well known in sto. Like you expect them to get it, just because they do a blog or a podcast or just appear a lot in your game.
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    captainkenny1captainkenny1 Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I bet some people here that have something to do with screenshot contests and such have gotten one.
    I don't want to point any fingers but yeah...it becomes pretty obvious
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    leothelizardleothelizard Member Posts: 5 New User
    well i agree that thay did not post the rules now cryptic is saying it was a promo but only to a set number but the way cryptic gave them out needs to be looked into more
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,350 Arc User
    leothelizard wrote: »
    well i agree that thay did not post the rules now cryptic is saying it was a promo but only to a set number but the way cryptic gave them out needs to be looked into more

    No it doesn't need to be looked into....jeez. Their product, their choice of 'requirements' for the giveaway, of which no-one but them has a say!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    I'd personally rather have some hardcore-Ferengi-fans getting it. As far as "deserving" goes, anybody who was still sticking to a T5U-D'Kora for the last years would be totally deserving one. Without latinum-skin (that one should have gone the way it did, random selection of people who spent x amount of Money, if that was actually the true criteria).

    Personally, I'd end up with a nice admiralty-asset and another ship-trait. Nice to have, but certainly not necessary.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,350 Arc User
    redeyedraven wrote: »
    I'd personally rather have some hardcore-Ferengi-fans getting it. As far as "deserving" goes, anybody who was still sticking to a T5U-D'Kora for the last years would be totally deserving one. Without latinum-skin (that one should have gone the way it did, random selection of people who spent x amount of Money, if that was actually the true criteria).

    Personally, I'd end up with a nice admiralty-asset and another ship-trait. Nice to have, but certainly not necessary.

    Exactly, nice to have, not entitled to have.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    leothelizardleothelizard Member Posts: 5 New User
    > @redeyedraven said:
    > I'd personally rather have some hardcore-Ferengi-fans getting it. As far as "deserving" goes, anybody who was still sticking to a T5U-D'Kora for the last years would be totally deserving one. Without latinum-skin (that one should have gone the way it did, random selection of people who spent x amount of Money, if that was actually the true criteria).
    >
    > Personally, I'd end up with a nice admiralty-asset and another ship-trait. Nice to have, but certainly not necessary.

    well this is what cryptic had to say and thay did not even post on the sto forms

    Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
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    kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    I just say throw it in the lobi or zen store and call it a day. The only mistake made by Cryptic is not selling it to everyone else already who didn't get lucky. I don't care for the ship in the slightest though (all ferengi ships just look ugly to me, and space barbie is my endgame : P ), but it's questionable use of dev resources to make a new ship just to never sell it at all and only give out by email.
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    captainkenny1captainkenny1 Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    kitsunesnout wrote: »
    I just say throw it in the lobi or zen store and call it a day. The only mistake made by Cryptic is not selling it to everyone else already who didn't get lucky. I don't care for the ship in the slightest though (all ferengi ships just look ugly to me, and space barbie is my endgame : P ), but it's questionable use of dev resources to make a new ship just to never sell it at all and only give out by email.


    Well said
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,350 Arc User
    kitsunesnout wrote: »
    I just say throw it in the lobi or zen store and call it a day. The only mistake made by Cryptic is not selling it to everyone else already who didn't get lucky. I don't care for the ship in the slightest though (all ferengi ships just look ugly to me, and space barbie is my endgame : P ), but it's questionable use of dev resources to make a new ship just to never sell it at all and only give out by email.

    I wouldn't think it took them more than 20 minutes to cook up as basically it's a kit-bash of the D'Kora. To be honest, I'd be drooling if they opened up the kit-bashing more so you could have more versatility in ship design and there for more 'unique' ships! :smiley:
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    kitsunesnout wrote: »
    *snip*
    but it's questionable use of dev resources to make a new ship just to never sell it at all and only give out by email.

    That's why it's a "limited" item has has value as such. Giving it out in the Lobi store, etc. would only decrease the value.

    As a matter of disclosure, I didn't receive the ship, and I don't really care for it either. If they do a giveaway, they're fully within their rights to do so, it's their game to do what they see fit with it. (even if armchair lawyers disagree)

    Court of Law vs Court of Public Opinion.
    It's not you- it's me. I just need my space.

    Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
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