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Mirror ships 2016 - To T5U or not to T5U?

Just to be clear from the start, I can understand why they weren't upgradeable on the release of T6 ships and upgrade tokens.

But a lot of time has passed since then and we got plenty of blue ships in lockboxes that get T5U capabilities, with a paid token. I still don't see them around a lot, but they are there.

Back then, mirror ships were dime a dozen. Maybe Cryptic was probably afraid that they would reduce profits on T6 ships and decided to leave them behind.

But now they are more rare and expensive now, plenty probably deleted forever after people added them to their admiralty roster (that's all they are really good for, other than unlocking hull materials).

I got a mirror Voq'uv I want to upgrade. How about it? You think the times have changed enough to make this possible? I don't really see why they wouldn't want to do this now.

And before someone tells me to just get a fleet version instead, that ain't happening for various reasons.
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  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    Near the end of the mirror ships releasing a few weird ships got mirrored, I think the b'rel and t'varo was two of them. I'm guessing making these weird outliners part of the "new endgame" could be against Cryptic's cryptic plans
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Every single T5 ship (including the free ones) Should be upgradeable to T5U.

    Cryptic is turning down money by refusing to sell those upgrade tokens.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Near the end of the mirror ships releasing a few weird ships got mirrored, I think the b'rel and t'varo was two of them. I'm guessing making these weird outliners part of the "new endgame" could be against Cryptic's cryptic plans
    WTF? There's nothing "weird" about the B'rel and the T'varo and they have been part of the endgame the whole time. The T5 C-Store and fleet versions are upgradeable and the T6 versions were released last year.

    The mirror ships are not upgradeable for the same reason as the free leveling ships are not upgradeable...to encourage players to buy the C-Store/fleet versions.

    AFAIK, unboxing a mirror ship will also unlock the mirror skin for the other versions of the same design, so just upgrade one of those. It could even unlock for the T6's, I'm not sure.
  • alexvio1alexvio1 Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    I agree with OP, but I doubt that they will do it. Al least every T5 lockbox ship shoud be upgadable.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Well you get another Admiralty Card, and you can Drydock them if you are tight on room.

    Look as far as I know the new Temporal Bundle T5s are not Upgradeable either.

    Well any of those second class ships coming out of a Lockbox from Delta Rising on, can be upgraded to T5U.
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  • hillard1959hillard1959 Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    If we're going to add more T5U ships, please add the Obelisk to that list, please. It's an awesome ship and deserves to be upgradable.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    If we're going to add more T5U ships, please add the Obelisk to that list, please. It's an awesome ship and deserves to be upgradable.
    The Advanced version is. For free even.
  • hillard1959hillard1959 Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    The Advanced version is. For free even.

    Well, I'll be. Looks like I know what I'm gonna have to start saving lobi for. LOL Thanks. :D

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Yes, and its Console is part of the three-part set including the Obelisk Warp Core and Ancient Omni.

    See: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ancient_Obelisk_Technology_Set#Console_-_Universal_-_Reactive_Antiproton_Cascade_Emitter
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    Every single T5 ship (including the free ones) Should be upgradeable to T5U.

    Cryptic is turning down money by refusing to sell those upgrade tokens.

    This ^
    warpangel wrote: »

    The mirror ships are not upgradeable for the same reason as the free leveling ships are not upgradeable...to encourage players to buy the C-Store/fleet versions.

    And This ^

    Pretty much sums up the reason "why" we'll never see the T-5U tokens applied to all Tier 5 ships.

    Money is the only reason.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    Every single T5 ship (including the free ones) Should be upgradeable to T5U.

    Cryptic is turning down money by refusing to sell those upgrade tokens.

    This ^
    warpangel wrote: »

    The mirror ships are not upgradeable for the same reason as the free leveling ships are not upgradeable...to encourage players to buy the C-Store/fleet versions.

    And This ^

    Pretty much sums up the reason "why" we'll never see the T-5U tokens applied to all Tier 5 ships.

    Money is the only reason.

    Do you mean greed? becuase the difference between the 2 quoted responses is one of them indicates cryptic is turning down many smaller transactions in favor of fewer larger ones, Profit Vs Greed.

    Someone after profit will accept any and all payouts becuase they understand it adds up.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    gradii wrote: »
    Every single T5 ship (including the free ones) Should be upgradeable to T5U.

    Cryptic is turning down money by refusing to sell those upgrade tokens.

    This ^
    warpangel wrote: »

    The mirror ships are not upgradeable for the same reason as the free leveling ships are not upgradeable...to encourage players to buy the C-Store/fleet versions.

    And This ^

    Pretty much sums up the reason "why" we'll never see the T-5U tokens applied to all Tier 5 ships.

    Money is the only reason.

    Do you mean greed? becuase the difference between the 2 quoted responses is one of them indicates cryptic is turning down many smaller transactions in favor of fewer larger ones, Profit Vs Greed.

    Someone after profit will accept any and all payouts becuase they understand it adds up.

    I mean "more money", as in they make more money off C-Store ship purchases than they do T-5U tokens.

    Greed is completely subjective. Some consider a price to be fair and others consider it to be outrageous- not going to go into debate over prices, only that they make more from one than the other.
    It's not you- it's me. I just need my space.

    Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
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