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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    Fed = ESD
    KDF = Qnos
    Rom = Flotilla

    It is only logical that the 23rd century ESD and galaxy map be opened for 23rd century captains.

    Otherwise they're not a real faction...

    Cmon make it so

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    But that would take effort...Cryptic pushes the envelope, more and more each time doing the least effort possible and yet people still eat it up.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    stobg2015 wrote: »
    It's definitely not fair to call the Devs lazy just because the TOS Zone doesn't have all the bells and whistles people want or because its purpose is limited and it becomes inaccessible after a certain point.

    I'm sure that the Devs wanted to do more, but they had a deadline and priorities to meet.

    When you start itemizing everything they delivered and what they're working on ( console), you realize it's quite a lot.
    The TOS zone intentionally lacks the bells and whistles because players are not meant to be able to transfer 25th century items from other toons into the 23rd century. Alas, they forgot the shuttle bridge.

    And it makes perfect sense it's not accessible after the time-skip. It would be completely irresponsible use of time-travel to go to the 23rd century just to shop for things with a different VFX.

    But not keeping those 23rd century items available in the 25th century is an oversight. Hopefully to be corrected at some time.
  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    I have a special time machine called The Account Bank that allows me to transfer items across time
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I remain cautiously hopeful there will be a social zone added, though maybe as a fleet holding.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    stobg2015 wrote: »
    I have a special time machine called The Account Bank that allows me to transfer items across time
    Because they forgot the shuttle bridge.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Fed = ESD
    KDF = Qnos
    Rom = Flotilla

    It is only logical that the 23rd century ESD and galaxy map be opened for 23rd century captains.

    Otherwise they're not a real faction...

    Cmon make it so

    Engage

    But that would take effort...Cryptic pushes the envelope, more and more each time doing the least effort possible and yet people still eat it up.
    Yeah, it's sad they don't even bother to write the games storyline properly to their own products and encourage people to actually use 23rd century ships.
    To be honest i'm sorry for the designers who created the 23rd century ships and put a lot of work into it, since basically no one seems to actually use them in game. And i'm sorry for the ppl, who bought the expensive AoY pack only to find out that using it doesn't make any sense in the games very own logic.

    I don't get Cryptics mindset anymore.
    First they put a lot of work in creating 23rd century ships (even endgame ships), interiors and equipment, only to use it for the first 10 levels and then tell the player NOT TO USE all that stuff and be some time agent from the far future.
    Which is exactly the OPPOSITE AoY was hyped for. This doesn't have anything to do with greed or money, it's just pure nonsense.

    Sure we often have seen Cryptics expanisons not coming up to our expectations, but this time it's way different.
    I honestly feel fooled by Cryptic.


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    A tale of two Picards
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    stobg2015 wrote: »
    I have a special time machine called The Account Bank that allows me to transfer items across time
    Because they forgot the shuttle bridge.
    The Pioneer ship bridge works too. You just have to look in the main deck.
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  • smoovioussmoovious Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    Well, Rom isn't a real faction, so by your logic, they should remove the flotilla or make it accessible by all.

    -- Smoov
  • chitowngrizz420chitowngrizz420 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    smoovious wrote: »
    Well, Rom isn't a real faction, so by your logic, they should remove the flotilla or make it accessible by all.

    -- Smoov

    Its true the Romulans are not a truly real faction. The devs even said during S7 release they are not. They did however all they could to mask them in a way that gives them the feel of a faction even tho they are not one. At the end of the day they have to choose blue or red sides and the most compelling proof they are not a true faction is that they do not have their own fleet bases.
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    At the very least I think they need to either make a vendor on regular ESD for AOY characters to buy 23rd century gear from, or put a bank on 23rd century ESD so we can properly stock up.

    Right now you can't go back and get more stuff, nor can you get a lot when you're actually there because there's neither a bank or a mail terminal, leaving repeating missions as the only way to scrape together energy credits at a snails pace.

    As for ''themed'' social zones, for others, sure, for me, I don't care, I usually stick to whatever zone is most convenient.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    The ship your AoY character inherits when the captain is promoted has an account bank on the crew deck, in the conference room.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    echatty wrote: »
    The ship your AoY character inherits when the captain is promoted has an account bank on the crew deck, in the conference room.

    Really..? Damn, I did not know that, that's definitely something I need to check when maintenance is done, it could allow me to do some stocking up.

    Edit: Well, you were right, guess my main issue is resolved lol
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    ^You're welcome :)
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    Well whether anyone wants to call 23c a faction or not doesnt matter to me. But it would be nice to see the 23c ESD get a bit more use out of it. It's a bit sparse though so they would have to expand upon it a little bit which of course will take dev time and resources. Also there's the matter of our character's fate at the end of the 23c level 10 storyline mission. But since its time travel they could just have a brief cutscene with some text explaining how you are able to go back to 23c ESD. Maybe give you a fake mustache and some glasses as a disguise hehe. Maybe they can do a 23c adventure zone kinda like how they made a NR zone? add that in while at the same time expanding on 23c ESD.
  • farranorfarranor Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    An "expansion" consisting of a half-dozen episodes and a couple STFs we can finish in an afternoon, plus a shopping list of "do all the old content again" that won't even be available for more than a few weeks. A "faction" consisting of a tutorial area we can't return to and unique animations that don't work. Oh, and don't forget all the things that broke: even the basic standing and movement animations are broken, from multiple roll animations per roll to "thoughtful" pose just clipping straight to the final stance.

    They really pulled out all the stops on this one!

    EDIT: Almost forgot to mention the way the game keeps referring to AoY characters as Delta recruits. I don't even know what to say about that.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    farranor wrote: »
    ...and unique animations that don't work.
    Don't forget, Animations which don't make any sense after the 23rd century tuturial.

    Cryptics Star trek game has always been lacking common sense, especially every time they introduce new ships (especially non faction ships).
    But to me AoY is the straw that breaks the camel's back. (i hope that's the right expression)
    Cryptic and STO have lost any credibility and my interest in this game tends toward zero.

    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    Why do you want another social hub? So everyone can stand around ignoring zone chat in another map?
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