Another disapointment... Another Failure

grazyc2

I decided to start as a temporal agent for a second time and give it another try...But then this...

With the episodes on the devideans is it just copy paste work here ?
Common Devs I'm a temporal agent why would franklin drake want to conceal it if he is talking with an temporal agent....
Hello I have my ship in 23th century style and I have to use a disguise as an klingon ship I still have to shoot 23th century people
from that time while I'm wearing the darn uniform and why is franklin drake giving me this mission without Daniels.
Really starting to think you took out bunch off missions copy paste it without even looking at them. Just wanted to let you know dev's another disappointment here... I really hope you are willing too look into the story and correct this... Because this really doesn't make any cense whatsoever. At least for an time agent that was born in that time trying to preserve that timeline, it doesn't make sense at all. the way I see it, Drake should have contacted Daniels about this devidean thing and work with the time agency to address this problem and Daniels would send the time agent from 23th century to correct this that would have made a little bit sense. but this is just lazy copy paste work again...

age03

It is one of those things scripter can't change unless they make 2 of them.This is primarily for those who start 24th C toon.

lblackmoor

I thought that Daniels tells you that he's putting you in 2409 undercover. Nobody there knows your a temporal agent.

As to the ship, the story will generally assume your using a standard ship for the timeframe that the mission takes place in. With the number of ships in the game this is a reasonable compromise.

davefenestrator

lblackmoor wrote: »

I thought that Daniels tells you that he's putting you in 2409 undercover. Nobody there knows your a temporal agent.

As to the ship, the story will generally assume your using a standard ship for the timeframe that the mission takes place in. With the number of ships in the game this is a reasonable compromise.

Exactly. Drake has access to "illegal" time travel (just like Kirk) but he is NOT a Temporal Agent. He does not know who you really are and you are not supposed to tell him.

Also, those "lazy" devs did just update the episode with voice acting and minor story tweaks. I'm pretty sure Drake did not mention the recovery tech as being a Borg node when I played this episode a few months ago.

darkenvious

the way I see it is that you are a Temporal Agent who works officially for the 31st century Federation and only un officially work with the current federation to keep an eye on things. Drake is NOT a Temporal Agent and he has zero idea who you are and the technology he has is not sanctioned/condoned illegal for time travel. Also no matter what we are not suppose to tell anyone who we really are

taylor1701d

One thing this brings up...
If no one is supposed to know about you, except 31st century Daniels...and you're to keep your mouth shut about it...
How does Quinn know who you are when you show up at level 10 ?

Is Daniels messing with Quinn's Starfleet personnel records ?
If not... then why the heck does Quinn give you a ship and send you on your merry way with no second questions asked ?

Further to this...how do you get past security and so close to Quinn that you could easily take him out if nobody knows who you are
-Mind Blown-

I hope they wrap up all this time travel stuff soon though.
There is such a thing as time travel overkill.

greyhame3

Chances are Daniel's set you up as a recent cadet graduate since that's where the previous tutorial ended.

davefenestrator

The story text says that Daniels has given you a new identity (as a modern Starfleet officer).

jonsills

Quinn's on heavy alien drugs. That's why he hands over starship commands to anyone who walks into his office dressed even vaguely like a Starfleet officer. (I understand that recently he had an episode where he thought he was a Klingon, and told someone to report to the Qo'noS shipyard...)​​

tenderbits

lblackmoor wrote: »

I thought that Daniels tells you that he's putting you in 2409 undercover. Nobody there knows your a temporal agent.

As to the ship, the story will generally assume your using a standard ship for the timeframe that the mission takes place in. With the number of ships in the game this is a reasonable compromise.

^^This

First rule of Temporal Agency is you don't talk about Temporal Agency.
Gotta remember, your 23c character "died" in 23c - transported to 25c and is now just another Starfleet officer. The identities of Temporal Agents were not known to just anyone. That's why Daniels didn't burn his 23c cover to your character until the Na'kuhl were exposed.

trillbuffet

I started in on this saying okay I will be nice and try it out even though I have a billion alts already that never get played because of all the micro management of ship mastery and having to redo all the boffs is just too much work to start playing the game. So I am like at the end of the first arc that is it wow. Pretty much everything after that is the same thing with maybe a dialogue change here and there but not really any work went into this "expansion" other than the 1st story arc or cash grab temporal ships and lockbox stuff. Only thing actually good about this is those 2 new queues they are fun to play but as far as grinding more characters or dilithium I couldnt even stomach that with the exchange rate. Yeah but one weekend was about all this game could do for my entertainment purposes the rest just is so depressing about the game I can't stand to watch anymore.

qziqza

jonsills wrote: »

Quinn's on heavy alien drugs. That's why he hands over starship commands to anyone who walks into his office dressed even vaguely like a Starfleet officer. (I understand that recently he had an episode where he thought he was a Klingon, and told someone to report to the Qo'noS shipyard...)

it would appear he is having flashbacks to the recent drug binge, and is once again pretending to be klingon.. in all fairness though, he does do a killer impersonation of j'mpok.​​

nccmark

Nobody knows what your origin year is.
But nice transporter effect and uniform, pal.

Pulling. It. Off.

vampeiyre

kirk2390 wrote: »

I decided to start as a temporal agent for a second time and give it another try...But then this...

With the episodes on the devideans is it just copy paste work here ?
Common Devs I'm a temporal agent why would franklin drake want to conceal it if he is talking with an temporal agent....
Hello I have my ship in 23th century style and I have to use a disguise as an klingon ship I still have to shoot 23th century people
from that time while I'm wearing the darn uniform and why is franklin drake giving me this mission without Daniels.
Really starting to think you took out bunch off missions copy paste it without even looking at them. Just wanted to let you know dev's another disappointment here... I really hope you are willing too look into the story and correct this... Because this really doesn't make any cense whatsoever. At least for an time agent that was born in that time trying to preserve that timeline, it doesn't make sense at all. the way I see it, Drake should have contacted Daniels about this devidean thing and work with the time agency to address this problem and Daniels would send the time agent from 23th century to correct this that would have made a little bit sense. but this is just lazy copy paste work again...

Posts like this can only be explained by the Dunning-Kruger effect, and there are a crushingly enormous number of examples of that on the forum today.

kodachikuno

The only problem I had with the episode chain, aside from my 23c ship being available, was that Scotty meets you BEFORE this happens TWICE and even comments that 'The last time I saw YOU was on Drozana!;' but there wasn't even a single new line added to "Night of the Comet" and he even still comments 'Funny lookin uniform' still.

davefenestrator

The TOS era episodes are after Night of the Comet for Scotty, before NotC for you. In Everything Old and in NotC you are "supposed to be" pretending to be a modern STO era captain and crew so you are assumed to be in modern uniforms.

I wear my STO uniform proudly but the game assumes you would not be allowed to do that. Flying a Tholian ship is OK though, at least once you make Admiral

saurializard

kodachikuno wrote: »

The only problem I had with the episode chain, aside from my 23c ship being available, was that Scotty meets you BEFORE this happens TWICE and even comments that 'The last time I saw YOU was on Drozana!;' but there wasn't even a single new line added to "Night of the Comet" and he even still comments 'Funny lookin uniform' still.

Because Drozana is the first time he meets you, and while another dialogue like "Scotty!" "Aye, that's me. Have we met, laddie?" "Hmm, no... but I know you from others" would have been welcome, had Daniels been here, he'd have told you it was risky not to feign ignorance to protect the timeline.

farmallm

Since your considered dead and re-introduced much later. Plus with your Temporal Agent is supposed to be under cover. There could be a few reasons why he didn't recognize you.

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grazyc2

Watch the episode closely, first the borg thing was called have you read the script. It's exactly the same dialogue as it was before the VO. Also my own bridge officers don't know I'm a time agent they where with me they suppose to be dead too otherwise. Clearly it's just a copy paste and we are done thing, no attention to the text or the arc on this matter, maybe they don't know about me in the 25th century but that would be strange, because dying the way as you did saving the brass is pretty amazing in that time. so someone should have recognized you, plus wearing a same uniform should give you an easier way in and out without shooting everyone on watch. plus the fact a lieutenant can't order an commander or captain what to do. Who is he to snap to me this way, I outrank him, I have a gold shirt with more stripes then he has. If they wanted to sell stuff to me those are details in the game they should have watched before that make it believable story and not a cheap copy and paste job....

fatherrock

after the delta recruit thing..why would star fleet even care if your a time traveling agent ??
half of the staff have time traveled...they have an officer there to brief you if your a time
traveler....humans line A, Vulcans line B Time Travelers line C,D,E,F

tousseau

[quote="taylor1701d;12995792"]One thing this brings up...
If no one is supposed to know about you, except 31st century Daniels...and you're to keep your mouth shut about it...
How does Quinn know who you are when you show up at level 10 ?

Is Daniels messing with Quinn's Starfleet personnel records ?
If not... then why the heck does Quinn give you a ship and send you on your merry way with no second questions asked ?

Further to this...how do you get past security and so close to Quinn that you could easily take him out if nobody knows who you are
-Mind Blown-

I hope they wrap up all this time travel stuff soon though.
There is such a thing as time travel overkill.[/quote]
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Agent Daniels, 31st Century purveyor of the ultimate Witness Protection Program...

davefenestrator

Is Daniels messing with Quinn's Starfleet personnel records ? ...

Of course he is. He is future omni-Federation officer and has a database with all of the admin passwords ever used by Starfleet. He can just log in with the "omega root user" account and tell the computers to make the changes without logging his access. Notice how he was a redshirt on your crew and you accepted that without question?

Quinn and security know who you are pretending to be, a modern Starfleet graduate who has been on a few missions and is ready to be promoted.

davefenestrator

Also my own bridge officers don't know I'm a time agent they where with me they suppose to be dead too otherwise.

Odd. Mine tell me when a temporal probe is nearby and help me analyze the contents once I crack it open with the awesome power of word jumble or Mastermind. They know what it is, what it means, and who sent it.

tousseau

Your ToS Officers do.... if you recall, Daniels states that he was able to save some of your crew...

grazyc2

Right, a little recognition please no just kidding but they could tweak this mission in text and sound ....

thetanine

kirk2390 wrote: »

I decided to start as a temporal agent for a second time and give it another try...But then this...

With the episodes on the devideans is it just copy paste work here ?
Common Devs I'm a temporal agent why would franklin drake want to conceal it if he is talking with an temporal agent....
Hello I have my ship in 23th century style and I have to use a disguise as an klingon ship I still have to shoot 23th century people
from that time while I'm wearing the darn uniform and why is franklin drake giving me this mission without Daniels.
Really starting to think you took out bunch off missions copy paste it without even looking at them. Just wanted to let you know dev's another disappointment here... I really hope you are willing too look into the story and correct this... Because this really doesn't make any cense whatsoever. At least for an time agent that was born in that time trying to preserve that timeline, it doesn't make sense at all. the way I see it, Drake should have contacted Daniels about this devidean thing and work with the time agency to address this problem and Daniels would send the time agent from 23th century to correct this that would have made a little bit sense. but this is just lazy copy paste work again...

Can you post some links showing us how this looks?​​

anodynes

By the way, you may outrank the Lieutenant that meets you in the hallways, but, playing at the minimum rank that the mission is available, you do not outrank the station commander who gave him his orders. You can't just go to someone else's base or station and start changing their subordinates' orders. You are not part of the chain of command of that station.

xyquarze

kirk2390 wrote: »

Clearly it's just a copy paste and we are done thing, no attention to the text or the arc on this matter

It's not a copy-paste episode, it's the exact same episode. You are playing the completely same episodes as any other Fed captain after you left the 23rd century. The only difference is the insert of the temporal nodes for the event bonuses. Making a completely new episode, even if copy-paste, would probably not be viable.

And yes, there are a few inconsistencies when you have special situations. Wear 23rd century starfleet uniforms and Scotty will still remark how they look funny. Get a Dabo during "Spin the Wheel" and Leeta will still tell you it's not a real Dabo but she needs to cut it short. It would be nice if the devs added some extra stuff for that, but if that's all that is problematic, I can look past it.

shurkhemolight

taylor1701d wrote: »

One thing this brings up...
If no one is supposed to know about you, except 31st century Daniels...and you're to keep your mouth shut about it...
How does Quinn know who you are when you show up at level 10 ?

Is Daniels messing with Quinn's Starfleet personnel records ?
If not... then why the heck does Quinn give you a ship and send you on your merry way with no second questions asked ?

Further to this...how do you get past security and so close to Quinn that you could easily take him out if nobody knows who you are
-Mind Blown-

I hope they wrap up all this time travel stuff soon though.
There is such a thing as time travel overkill.

I agree, and time travel overkill has already both docked, and sailed.

skrapnel

taylor1701d wrote: »

One thing this brings up...
If no one is supposed to know about you, except 31st century Daniels...and you're to keep your mouth shut about it...
How does Quinn know who you are when you show up at level 10 ?

Is Daniels messing with Quinn's Starfleet personnel records ?
If not... then why the heck does Quinn give you a ship and send you on your merry way with no second questions asked ?

Further to this...how do you get past security and so close to Quinn that you could easily take him out if nobody knows who you are
-Mind Blown-

I hope they wrap up all this time travel stuff soon though.
There is such a thing as time travel overkill.

Daniels is messing with personnel records.... They would have to in order to plant temporal adents in the timeline. We can see Daniels was planted at least twice, once in the Ent era and another time in the TOS era.