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New Expansion copy cat from SWTOR
castius
Member Posts: 39 Arc User
This new expansion seems to be a copy cat of the latest "Light vs. Dark" event from SWTOR. You have to create a new character to have access to the new content, just like in SWTOR. Veteran characters are excluded. This is just sad, can't people come up with own ideas anymore?
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You mean because this new STO even is just like the STO 'Delta Recruit' event from about one year ago? (IE Who copied whom?
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Yeah, Delta Recruitment happened way before Light vs. Dark.
Not sure if there are clear similarities but there is a fact they both looking for better METRICS to show their bosses the game is on a healthy path
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I'll just be over here enjoying the far superior F2P implementation, in a universe whose lore only makes me slightly apoplectic...
Now I've got an ACDC song in my head!
What kind of "TON" great rewards do you get in SWTOR?
I found the Delta Recruitment rewards nothing to sneeze at - it made particularly the endgame a lot easier to get into.
I hate to say this, but as it stands right now, STO is a much better game and deal than SWTOR. This xpac is completely free. You don't have to sub to play certain content.
Now, a year or so ago, I might've disagreed. SWTOR put out some really good stuff for a time, but they've also gotten greedy with their Cartel Store and the way their version of the lockboxes work. When you sub with SWTOR, you get nearly the same benefits then if you don't sub with STO, and if you do, they are completely equal at this point. Also, with STO, I don't have to pay to further customize my character or to change the appearance a bit.
This isn't the most cohesive response that I've ever done, but SWTOR just got old for me. The combat gets boring over time. The Cartel Market is nearly just as expensive as the C-Store except with SWTOR you pretty much have to sub. The sub benefits by comparison are really bad next to STO's f2p. Also, I'm big on character customization and STO let's me do that mostly for free. Does swtor? Ha!
Oh, and yeah, Delta Recruit came first.
The graphics are nice, but the game runs poorly by comparison thanks to BW outsourcing the engine.
Really? That's the thing that says "this event is the same"? That's like saying "Star Wars stole "Star" from Star Trek".
If the "Light vs Dark" event involved time travel where you're from the past, stopping a faction from altering TOR's timeline, and end up "dying" after a last stand and sent back to the old republic storyline , I could understand how it sounds similar, but as I don't think that's the case, that's a really weird thing to see as a "copy cat".
I love Star Wars.
Yet, between the two games, I have thousands of hours into STO and a couple dozen hours in SWTO. Why? Because their 'free to play' model is a joke. SWTOR sucks, you have to pay for every little thing in that game, after my first month expired I couldn't even wear a hood anymore.. that costs extra. Those pricks have a micro transaction for EVERYTHING in that game.
STO > SWTOR and it's not even close.
And as said before, Delta Recruits were before any of it.
My problem was more that I really did not like the gameplay. It was all so tedious. You walked over giant maps with enemies halting you off. The best experience was playing a stealth character - until you realized that you missed out on valuable XP (and gameplay experience) that you needed to beat the mini-bosses in the story mission. Such a nice story, such nice voice acting, but such a terrible gameplay.
STO might have turned into a BFAW fest, but at least I can get to my mission in peace, and I only fight enemies that are important to the task at hand.
Yeah. I wouldn't mind it if I felt like the sub was worth a bit more in that game. But as I said, with the cost of just adjusting your appearance in Cartel Coins and so much being added to the Cartel market and not enough stuff given for the value of hte sub... STO is a better game. It's unfortunate since KotFE is a really neat storyline, but ah well.
SWTOR is copying STO this time bro... Delta Recruit from last year
This is one reason I won't get all goodies. You need one charecter to 65 and do all the stories. This will get you to tier 4/6 rewards. Then you need another brand new 65 cross faction to get 5/6, then you need the other 6 to 50 to get the last tier. And that isn't even just leveling, other things you need to do.
Least with STO I just play, I don't have to go through nearly as many hoops to get to the rewards.
Yeah, I'll give SWTOR that for sure.. the story and the voice acting are absolutely top notch. The story line and cinematic are Bioware at it's finest and they really do it better then anyone else. Those cinematic and trailers drew me to the game like moths to a flame.
When I started playing though, I was quickly disappointed. I liked the game play a little more then you did, but I still agree with your points. I was kind of on the edge with rather or not I wanted to keep going and then my Sub expired and I couldn't even inhale without having to pay for it. That was the last straw for me.
In STO I have spent money.. yes. In fact, I honestly don't even like to think about how much I have spent over the years, it's well into the hundreds, but I have never done that because I felt I HAD to. I bought things because I wanted them, because I was enjoying the game and wanted to support it. To me, the 'Free 2 Play' model of SWTOR always felt like it was just constantly throwing anything it could at you to convince you to pay up, and I didn't like that.
It's a shame too, because the story line and overall feel of the game is top notch. If the game wasn't so painfully restrictive, I would probably still be playing it today.
Their summer event holds no interest to me. I feel the same about the one here. I came back to pew-pew in a classic 23rd century setting. Nothing more. I got sick of bling grind when the whole Starbase thing started. Every time I do an event in a game for a new toy. I feel like a guy wandering a mall parking lot, scrounging for enough loose change that dropped, to afford a Rolex that's on sale for a limited time. That belief applies to any MMO I play. Even when you get the reward, it gets played with for a few weeks, the shine goes away, and it gets shoved in an inventory slot, almost never to see the light of day again.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
LucasArts and BioWare had more investment money involved in SWTOR development. Still, I found it wanting. The Friends/social network system Cryptic is a heck of a lot better than SWTOR's, thanks evolution since City of Hero days.
Needing to set up 'Friends' with each and every character with your friends in game is a pain in the keister.
It started with the Delta recruit as far as replaying content for rewards in this structure.