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Vitamin J

tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    My second favourite Enterprise after the F.​​
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    Oh, these views do a lot for it - the 'status' view on the monitor isn't as good for it as seeing it at different orientations (and I like somehow the idea of apparently big honking power conduits/bracing between the warp engines and deflector control).
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  • cuchulainn74cuchulainn74 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    I don't personally like the lines of the J, but you guys did an absolutely amazing job of faithfully rendering it from such limited source material!
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  • tessaravejgantessaravejgan Member Posts: 276
    After seeing it in game its disgusting. Saucer has too many windows.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    tessaravejgan wrote: »
    After seeing it in game its disgusting. Saucer has too many windows.

    Some of them are skylights.​​
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    Every time I see the E.J., it makes me wonder... what would the -G, -H and -I have to look like for the progression of starship designs to go from where the -E and -F are to what the -J is...
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    Well the D and the E come from very different design perspectives (and the C had a very round saucer, the D has a very horiziontally-elliptical saucer, and the E goes in another direciton), the I could be relatively traditional.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
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    As others have said also, I'm not a real fan of the Ent.-J; but you did one heck of a nice job modeling it and getting it into STO.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    It's the one ship design in Star Trek where I cannot comprehend how they dared to even bring this on the screen, even as a status window. A lot of designs are matters of taste, but this here is simply... faulty.
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  • avantguard13avantguard13 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    I've always loved the sexy streamlined design of this one...sooooooo smoooooooth space pannnnnncake...
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    angrytarg wrote: »
    It's the one ship design in Star Trek where I cannot comprehend how they dared to even bring this on the screen, even as a status window. A lot of designs are matters of taste, but this here is simply... faulty.

    You've accidentally posted in the Vitamin J thread. I believe it's far more likely you intended to post in a thread on the Excelsior.​​
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    It is a pretty ship. Cryptic's Art Devs did a fine job of placing it into the game while retaining the elements which make the Ent-J what she is. It is not something I want to fly. However others probably do. Which is perfectly fine with me. I hope they enjoy it as much as I enjoy my favorite ships.
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  • cuchulainn74cuchulainn74 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    The last thing I'll say about the -J is this. I skinned my Gemini class with the Sagittarius skin last night, and I am completely smitten! Without a doubt, the Sagittarius is now my all-time favorite STO design. And we owe it entirely to the Enterprise-J and its influence on the 26th century temporal ship designs.
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  • greyhame3greyhame3 Member Posts: 914 Arc User
    Awesome job bringing this in game. Definitely one of my favourite Star Trek ship designs.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    NICE!!!!!
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    What i like about the design is the wide saucer and the deflector integration, everything else is rather meh.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    So just how many decks does the primary saucer have?
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    Judging from the fact that the -J's saucer is almost as big as the whole of -D, it's probably fifty decks or more...
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    yreodred wrote: »
    What i like about the design is the wide saucer and the deflector integration, everything else is rather meh.

    If the saucer had the mass of that... thing where the deflector nests in I'd almost see it's appeal. But this saucer is literally a disc with stretched textures on it. I can't comprehend. Does not compute.​​
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    turbomagnus wrote: »
    Judging from the fact that the -J's saucer is almost as big as the whole of -D, it's probably fifty decks or more...

    Drexler's commented before about the windows being "skylights" and such, which people complain about. To Doug, this thing doesn't have traditionally stacked decks. Remember, even by the 2200's, we're creating false gravity aboard a ship, there's no reason it all has to point one direction. So the windows on the J are windows, but the decks are stacked in a radial manner around the axis of the saucer. Kind of 2001ish.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Kind of 2001ish.

    Well, between that reference and Star Trek's already existing track record, there's no way I'd want to serve on a ship of this class. The odds that the ship's computer would snap and try to kill everyone aboard are pushing one hundred per cent...

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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    turbomagnus wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Kind of 2001ish.

    Well, between that reference and Star Trek's already existing track record, there's no way I'd want to serve on a ship of this class. The odds that the ship's computer would snap and try to kill everyone aboard are pushing one hundred per cent...

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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    turbomagnus wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Kind of 2001ish.

    Well, between that reference and Star Trek's already existing track record, there's no way I'd want to serve on a ship of this class. The odds that the ship's computer would snap and try to kill everyone aboard are pushing one hundred per cent...

    It's Star Trek, it'll all be neatly resolved within an hour.​​

    Don't jinx us, the way things are, we'd probably wind up with it happening for a season finale/premiere two-parter...
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    So the windows on the J are windows, but the decks are stacked in a radial manner around the axis of the saucer. Kind of 2001ish.

    Makes for lots of stairs!
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    dracounguis wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    So the windows on the J are windows, but the decks are stacked in a radial manner around the axis of the saucer. Kind of 2001ish.

    Makes for lots of stairs!

    Site to site transporters.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    dracounguis wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    So the windows on the J are windows, but the decks are stacked in a radial manner around the axis of the saucer. Kind of 2001ish.

    Makes for lots of stairs!

    Site to site transporters.​​

    A ship the size of a city (I remember reading some where that the -J's class of ship is supposed to be so big that it has its own parks, school system up to university level, etc... don't remember where, though) travelled by using site-to-site transporters... sounds a little familiar...
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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