Look, I get it...prices do rise, it happens, but...
DIL went from 425 a zen to the 470's in one day, thats ridiculous, greedy, and wrong. Oldest trick in the book, raise prices, get people used to paying more, then people wont complain when the new norm is 450+ a zen for DIL, but where will it end? It will just keep going up and up unless we do something, and do something NOW!
Don't let them get away with it! Yes, you should get fair value for your zen, but raising prices that fast? No, we do not have to stand for it, and if we stand together, they will think twice before they try to manipulate prices again...if we work together we can all benefit, boycott the DIL exchange and just sit back and marvel how fast the prices drop after they see no DIL in their coffers after a few days, but we all have to do this, together!
Take a stand for fair market value, boycott the DIL exchange!!!
Thanks fellow Star Travelers!
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Good deal, thanks for the great response!
Then convert it back like a pro.
Having said that, there are several topics about this already and this one serves no purpose other than to clutter the forum.
And what would be a reasonable price?
Basically, this is telling others to sell their Zen cheaper. I think that's slightly arrogant. And somewhat unreasonable if it's coming from people who do not wish to spend money on the game themselves.
Judging from the great responses, I would say this isn't clutter at all..just a suggestion, and I do appreciate the feedback, but if you think a post is clutter, then just move on, and I don't really see anything calling for the right cure, a boycott, pure and simple..Thanks!
I have played since beta, and whats arrogant is someone assuming just because we want fair market value, I am a freeloader..I'll bet you 100 bucks worth of ZEN I have spent more than you, want to lose a 100 bucks big mouth?
You should have posted more in all that time.
This is how the "pros" do it, eh?
I said exactly what I wanted to say. I won't use the dil exchange as long as prices stay unreasonable. Now what's unreasonable for me may not be unreasonable for someone else.
But I did not tell anyone to sell cheaper. Stop reading things into what I say and take them at face value.
*Basically* what I said was that I wasn't going to use the exchange while prices stayed these ridiculous prices, but nowhere did I tell anyone to sell cheaper. Those are two different things.
The price that zen goes for is definitionally a fair market price - it is the price that, by their behavior, both zen sellers and dilithium traders have agreed is fair - the price set by the market. It might not be the price you want, or the price that makes you happy, but it is definitionally the fair market price.
After all, trading is still happening, briskly.
Therefore, I call upon all of the Zen sellers to not sell thier Zen on the exchange until a time where the dil' sellers stop calling Zen sellers negative things.
Where did I ever say that I was referring specifically to you? My comment was directed at the 'boycot the dilithium exchange'-crowd in general, most of whom often immediately admitted that they did not wish or could not spend real life money on the game.
You're not the first person to post a thread like this one after all.
But of course, keep thinking this is all about you. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since it's coming from someone who, and that's the thing you ignored, wants to tell others for how much they should sell THEIR Zen. You also didn't answer the question: who are you to determine that the price is 'ridiculous', and assume that people are greedy etc.
Hypocrite much?
Both parties get what they want at the price they both must agree to. It is the ultimate in fairness. The unfairness comes when the zen sellers cannot charge more than the artificial cap placed on them.
@solafide420
In the words of a great man "I dunna think, the word means what you think it means".
Do you know what "fair market value" even means? Fair market value is the prevailing price range that the market is paying. If you want fair market value, you already have it!
I've been here since beta as well, and spent a fair amount of change in support of this game too. I have bought and sold Zen on the exchange as well, so that makes me just as qualified as anyone else here to speak to this issue.
Calling people who spend money on game product, and then offer to sell it for currency that didnt cost money, "greedy" because you (and others) dont agree with the exhange rate and think it should be lower is not only arrogant but "greedy" , and childish, in its own right.
I extend my personal, and heartfelt appology that things arent going you way but its time for you to realize, and accept that you desires do not create a condition as to where its other peoples responsibility to satisfy you.
This is getting so stupid. Ill boycott, I will pul my Zen and wait until the exchange maxes out. You need my zen more then I need your dil.
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Don't want to buy zen at that price? Fine, don't. It'll come down eventually if people want to sell it badly enough/ need dilithium.
The Dil exchange is entirely market-driven, and that shouldn't change. I rarely ever buy dil, though I wouldn't say I'm swimming in it, and I generally have better things to do with my zen. So I don't much care and I can wait until the price drops. I basically side with the zen sellers anyway... real money is more precious than imaginary money is, IMO.
Instead of calling for boycotts, asking for more things to spend dilithium on would drive demand and be more productive.
Well it's almost entirely market-driven. There is still the cap at 500 dil/zen.
Agreed with the point though: trying to influence the behaviour of the players is pointless. Cause even if you have some success and the price comes down, players and speculators will immediately buy again and drive it back up.
It's pointless, really. People like the OP indeed better focus on the things that currently affect the price, instead of trying to manipulate or influence it directly. Such behaviour won't achieve anything, at least it will have no long-term effects.